IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

RNG in this game is atrocious; absolutely horrible. I have 11 characters. I will be damned if I need to grind thousands of hours just to min/max them again. Grinding for the perfect drops all over again is not fun. I am sorry if the OP feels he has no need to play anymore. But don't force the rest of us to start from scratch just because he lacks incentive.

Did you not do the same thing to go from V10 to V12, V12 to V14 etc?

Now, there is no need to grind for XP at least. And there is a vendor for the monster helms.

@IcyDeadPeople There is a big difference. I started console so I wasn't around when things progressed from 12-14. When the gear changed from v14 to 16 tho, things were completely different. Most sets in the game were BoE and solo content like vMSA was not yet a thing. Also, gold mats were considerably cheaper then (not too mention there was the pig farming exploit to upgrade the new stuff easier).

Now almost everything is BoP, the best weapons are locked behind solo content, and we just had a bunch of new garbage traits introduced to end-game gear. Simply, it will be a nightmare to try to farm a perfect divines SPC, divines Scathing, ideal Maelstrom Weapons, etc. The only saving grace is that they may be introducing a way to trade within groups, but still with the RNG in this game being as bad as it is, I do not relish the thought of grinding for and upgrading CP180/CP200 gear.

Until/unless we have some way of at least upgrading existing gear (if not re-traiting as well), then they should raise the gear cap never. There is simply way too much BoP gear obfuscated behind boring grinds and crappy RNG.

Personally, I enjoy grinding out new sets and would be happy with getting a gear lvl increase but..... RNG needs improving. Since DB came out all I get is prosperous and well-fitted with a reinforced thrown in on the rare occasion. That needs fixing.

Is the "seasonal" gear/tier concept still something that's happening or did it get cancelled? I liked this idea personally. If it was eventually just new tiers of latest/greatest followed by last season's tier and everything before it (today's cp10-150) being normalized/having the same stats, then I wouldn't really care often new tiers came out.

The seasonal concept makes even more sense now that CP is shared among characters... and even more sense with all content migrating towards being scaled.

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

CP-cap: YES
Gear lvl-cap: NO.


Pl0x, dont make me farm the vMA weapons or recraft my gear(tempers for 10,5k each, rip wallet).

This is how I feel also:

CP-cap: YES
Gear lvl-cap: NO.

There's too much going on right now for that to be the right move, lots of people (myself included) leveling alts and looking to equip them, and we should have a chance to play with these new characters for a while before needing to re-equip them next DLC. I think next year should be the soonest they change it, give us some breathing room and don't try to rush things forward too fast. That was probably one of the most annoying parts of Destiny, every few months in that game it's back to the grindstone to get a whole new range of weapons and armor, it was too rushed and didn't give you breathing room to actually enjoy what you already had.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Item_level

I knew it when gear caps were being introduced. This is going to be just like ilvl. Some number is attached to gear and each higher ilvl is the same gear with slightly upgraded stats and a different aesthetic. The cap is created and raised incrementally every few months to keep players grinding content to stay at the top of the game.

If Champion Points can be attained by progressing through content. Why is CP gear capped and attained by finishing content. It's a fast moving goal post shaped like a hamster wheel that you can never finish.

Gear should be dropped in specific content or crafted with beginning primary stats.
Gear CP should be up-gradable by doing anything in game that requires you to use it.
The hardest content drops the beginning primary Best In Slot with slightly higher stats than gear acquired from normal content.
The cap should remain for gear but it should be capped equal to whatever the current character CP cap is.
Gear and Champion point raises should only happen every year so people can enjoy all the hard work earned through the fruits of their labor.

Way it should work

At initial acquisition:

• Standard Current character CP cap is 501
• Normal Gear CP cap is 501.
• Hard mode gear CP cap is 501 with slightly improved stats over the normal mode.
• Both sets of gear(normal and hard mode) are dropped in the same content with a CP score of 160.
• Players can improve the CP score to a maximum of 501 for both sets of acquired gear.
• The CP score reflects what your current character CP is at and can be improved in normal or hard content.
• Normal mode gear caps at 501 after improving it.
• Hard Mode gear caps at 501 after improving it.
• The cap for both types of gear both normal and hard mode remains at 501 for one year.
• The cap for both types of gear raised to whatever the cap is raised to and mirrors character CP cap raise.
• The character CP is raised to whatever the cap is raised to and mirrors gear CP cap raise.
• If you already have 501 character CP your gear is automatically progressed to the 501 cap if your gear is normal or hard mode acquired.

Essiaga wrote: »

Gear level increases should be announced 6 months in advance or they should do it on a schedule so people are ready for it and don't waste there time and resources to find there newly completed gear (weather it be via farming or crafting) worthless about a month later.

+1 this. I would also like to propose that when the new gear tiers' associated new materials hit, do NOT do any of the following:

--limit the availability of nodes dropping that resource
--limit the amount of materials gained from deconstructing gear of that tier
--require a drastic increase in the amount of materials needed to construct gear
--restrict activities that drop the new tier to the latest DLC and nothing else

...basically, they should NOT do anything they did when they trotted out the Ruby materials. It's arbitrary. It's unintuitive. it's annoying, expensive, and above all SLOW. We have about a dozen different daily quests in the game now; there are LOTS of more interesting things to do than grind for materials.

Dromede wrote: »

I don't think there's any need in speeding up the power creep

is it really a speed up if it's been a year since the last gear upgrade?

Gear level cap should never go up. CP cap should increase tho

No, all them dungeon sets, maelstrom weapons etc. To much grind.

Honestly I don't want gear cap to increase in the traditional sense at all.

When we do get gear increase I would prefer it if we can use a 50% material type thing to just "upgrade" out gear to a higher level.

Especially considering the amount of alts many of us have...

Ryuho wrote: »

Gear lvl should stay forever CP 160.. We had vr10, vr12, vr14 and vr16 changes, each time we needed to recraft our gears, just stop this bs @ZOS..

This Just make us use different materials for visual purposes. So that silver armour and weapons ect. is a thing in the future not just the red ruby stuff