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Coincidence that racial changes are happening around race change crown store release?
Justice31st
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Now if you want to min/max you are forced to pay money in the crown store for an extra character slot to grind a new character or you have to pay for a race change. GG ZOS you won the cash money grab.
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"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."
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kit_sune✭✭✭Lol they said that they were going to do both of them togetherEveryone's Favorite Fox1 -
AverageJo3Gam3r✭✭✭✭✭Would you prefer they just nerfed your race without giving you the opportunity to change it?0 -
Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭skepticalfox wrote: »Lol they said that they were going to do both of them together
Except they already did a racial change about 6 months ago. Now they are doing another one upon race change crown store purchasing. ZOS = greedy"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."2 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭No. Racial passive changes have been an issue Wrobel has said he wants to address, but wouldn't do so until the ability to change race was implemented in the game. This was on an ESO live back in April I believe.Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
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- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
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✭✭Its not a cooincidence, or a surprise.... ZoS have been very open and said that they wouldn't change the racials until they were able to offer race change in the crown store.
The reasons were that if they changed and updated too many racial passives then it may change things for people who were happy with their race choice, who may then want to change.... so they wanted to ensure they could change if they wanted.
Which is a valid arguement...
They have given people what they wanted.... both updating & (hopefully) improving the racial passives, while also allowing people to change races if they want.
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✭SwaminoNowlino wrote: »No. Racial passive changes have been an issue Wrobel has said he wants to address, but wouldn't do so until the ability to change race was implemented in the game. This was on an ESO live back in April I believe.
That is exactly my point. They wanted to wait until they added a pay option before they re balanced it again."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »Would you prefer they just nerfed your race without giving you the opportunity to change it?
They already did that once. And it was free of charge."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭That's not the point. The point is if they changed some passives that messed up your character without allowing you to change the race, people would rightfully be infuriated. They talked about this in great detail.Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
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✭SwaminoNowlino wrote: »That's not the point. The point is if they changed some passives that messed up your character without allowing you to change the race, people would rightfully be infuriated. They talked about this in great detail.
And people aren't infuriated that their race is going to be nerfed without a one time free race change?"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭Its not a cooincidence, or a surprise.... ZoS have been very open and said that they wouldn't change the racials until they were able to offer race change in the crown store.
The reasons were that if they changed and updated too many racial passives then it may change things for people who were happy with their race choice, who may then want to change.... so they wanted to ensure they could change if they wanted.
Which is a valid arguement...
They have given people what they wanted.... both updating & (hopefully) improving the racial passives, while also allowing people to change races if they want.
I am sure people didn't want their race to be nerfed, and then to be charged to change it lol..."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »That's not the point. The point is if they changed some passives that messed up your character without allowing you to change the race, people would rightfully be infuriated. They talked about this in great detail.
And people aren't infuriated that their race is going to be nerfed without a one time free race change?
You're making an assumption that there will be nerfs, which there is no evidence of. They could easily tweak the under performers up.Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
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✭✭✭✭We could wait to see what the plans for racial changes are, before jumping on the doom and gloom train while screaming about the nerf bat. ....or not and just let our fears and imagination get the better of us.1 -
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✭We could wait to see what the plans for racial changes are, before jumping on the doom and gloom train while screaming about the nerf bat. ....or not and just let our fears and imagination get the better of us.
If ZOS's intent is for people to pay for a race change in the crown store, you best believe you should be more cynical than optimistic about the upcoming racial change."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Now if you want to min/max you are forced to pay money in the crown store for an extra character slot to grind a new character or you have to pay for a race change. GG ZOS you won the cash money grab.
Or....
just delete your weak character and create another.
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm just worried they'll "rebalance" them in a way that makes you really want to change, therefore encouraging you to buy at least one race change token for $$$.1 -
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✭Argonians and Nords could probably use a small buff. Redguard Adrenaline Rush should be removed.
Pls leave the other races alone ZOS...
And for the record I have no problem with my Redguard losing his OP passive... It really is just way too good.PC NA
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✭We could wait to see what the plans for racial changes are, before jumping on the doom and gloom train while screaming about the nerf bat. ....or not and just let our fears and imagination get the better of us.
At this point, I got my doom and gloom tickets pre-ordered. Fool me once...PC NA
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LiquidSchwartz✭✭✭✭✭thats ok my imperial wont be nerfed (:May the Schwartz be with you.EP/XB1/NA0 -
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MickeyBN✭✭✭✭Whatever happened to choosing your race based on which race you like best? ie appearance/lore.
Screw min/maxing!
Just be happy ZOS is giving you what you've all been asking for so long.Vaelerys Nightborn - Bosmer Nightblade PC NA2 -
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✭✭So...basically you're afraid that Redguards and Altmers might take a small hit or that the other races might be brought up to speed? You're scared that there will be other viable min/max options and mad that you will have to pay to jump ship to one of these options? Your concerns are invalid. If they balance them a little better, why would anyone feel miffed? Because they're not the only OP min/max build anymore? Silly thing to worry about.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭-It is not a coincidence - ZOS themselves said in the last live show, that it was a requirement to have this race change implemented, before they do the racial passive changes. This is strongly related to each other, no coincidence.0 -
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✭✭✭SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »SwaminoNowlino wrote: »That's not the point. The point is if they changed some passives that messed up your character without allowing you to change the race, people would rightfully be infuriated. They talked about this in great detail.
And people aren't infuriated that their race is going to be nerfed without a one time free race change?
You're making an assumption that there will be nerfs, which there is no evidence of. They could easily tweak the under performers up.
Which to some that aren't being reduced will be seen as a "nerf" by comparison. Saw it heading into and after DB.
never underestimate some folk's capacity to become indignantly outraged.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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