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Now that shields have been nerfed into near uselessness...
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Um, what?I actually think that Sorcerer's have had it so easy for so long that they haven't been forced to truly consider gearing, their passives, and all available skills in the same way DKs or Templars have.
Teargrants and Ezkil used to run Heavy Armor on their sorcs.
Oh dear. Let's go over this, starting from the beginning.If I recall correctly, Teargrants had a destro/shield build? With a rather low health pool, relying on shields? Funny, considering destro/shields got hit pretty hard with the lates surge nerf, and reliability of shields is what this topic is about.
1st heavy armor sorc build (1/21/15) patch 1.5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-8ZGHxGI4o
S/B - Resto off bar. Rapid Regen as main heal and Dark Exchange & Engine Guardian for sustain. This is when heavy armor actually made you tanky. Watch the video, 10 minutes of intense fighting and how many times are shields used? 3 times! How many instances of shield stacking? Just once! The heavy armor sorc concept is exactly what it was supposed to be: a low dps, tanky troll that benefited from sorc mobility. That was in 1.5, you didn't have to rely on shields for mitigation, that kind of playstyle was destroyed so hard that just the idea of sorcs not spamming shields like crazy completely disappeared after 1.5. As an aside: notice how much dodge roll is used, have fun trying to do that nowadays, lol!
2nd build (2/20/15) patch 1.5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwAdUKeoWY
Destro - Resto. Not a permablock build, but still very tanky. And again, Hardened Wards used? 3. Healing Wards used? 0. Harness Magicka? Not even slotted.
3rd build, 2 vids this time (3/13/15) patch 1.6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs9Z6Bfgi4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMG4sfjJXE8
Destro - S/B off bar. Energy orb as primary heal frees you from having to go Resto off bar. With the increased dmg of 1.6 and ability to stack magicka, shields became mandatory for sorcs. CP means infinite sustain now. This build has increased tankiness thanks to shields. The flipside is, without those shields, you just die, no way around it. Impen no longer negated crit and stam builds would chase you to the ends of the earth if you tried a kiting strategy. Let's see...
The low spell dmg worked because it was the beginning of 1.6 and no one had figured out that Nirn was bugged yet.Teargrants DWO 1 year ago wrote:My dps is low cuz I have to spend half the time recasting shields like crazy, and I speced out of spell dmg in order to keep my mag/stam regens high.
4th build, again 2 vids (3/14/15) patch 1.6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5iOdcT6t60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzYuKEzW58
Destro - S/B off bar. Another thing about the switch to 1.6, health was nerfed hard core so instead of stacking 3k health like 1.5, you just stack everything in magicka and use shields instead. So you can blame all those 15k health infinite shield sorcs on Wrobel. It's not their fault, it's just the way the game was redesigned. And no, the solution was never something so simple as "hur dur nerf shields" "hur dur make shields critable" "hur dur make shields not stack". All that needed to be done was to revert to 1.5 and continue minor balance tweaks for stam from there. But I should give credit to Wrobel, he found the one way to nerf shields that literally no one had ever proposed or asked for in any way.
5th build (10/3/15) patch 2.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5H8i8xKkks
Destro - Resto. Heavy armor sorc is gutted thanks to Wrobel's idea to "make tanking more interesting" by removing stam regen. Now it is reduced to a stupid gimmick troll build with reactive armor - which is remember, a goddamned stam set. This is the last heavy armor sorc vid Teargrants made, that's almost 9 months ago. I don't know about you, but compare it to all the prior videos. Heavy armor sorc now looks pathetically ineffectual and boring to play at best.
Anyways
I have to agree with Cinn, the sorc shield nerf in DB, when combined with all the prior nerfs, has destroyed the playability of magicka sorc as a whole. This is something I've been saying in PTS, but of course the usual nerf sorc crowd doesn't care a whiff. Back in 1.5 there were so many valid play styles for sorc, you could go double resto like Ezareth, S/B heavy armor like Teargrants, ect. 1.6 reduced that by making 100% uptime shield rotations mandatory to not insta-die. But even then, you had a number of different valid playstyles and truly unique builds to choose from. IC went and said F U to that diversity and also destroyed sorc mobility. Now w/ DB, why should I even log on my sorc except when I need to craft something?
And here's a build I never see anyone discuss, I don't think I've seen anyone other than Teargrants using a med armor mag sorc build. TG destroyed that too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUs6IM9YMLg
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✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »Teargrants and Ezkil used to run Heavy Armor on their sorcs.
Oh dear. Let's go over this, starting from the beginning.If I recall correctly, Teargrants had a destro/shield build? With a rather low health pool, relying on shields? Funny, considering destro/shields got hit pretty hard with the lates surge nerf, and reliability of shields is what this topic is about.
1st heavy armor sorc build (1/21/15) patch 1.5:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-8ZGHxGI4o
S/B - Resto off bar. Rapid Regen as main heal and Dark Exchange & Engine Guardian for sustain. This is when heavy armor actually made you tanky. Watch the video, 10 minutes of intense fighting and how many times are shields used? 3 times! How many instances of shield stacking? Just once! The heavy armor sorc concept is exactly what it was supposed to be: a low dps, tanky troll that benefited from sorc mobility. That was in 1.5, you didn't have to rely on shields for mitigation, that kind of playstyle was destroyed so hard that just the idea of sorcs not spamming shields like crazy completely disappeared after 1.5. As an aside: notice how much dodge roll is used, have fun trying to do that nowadays, lol!
2nd build (2/20/15) patch 1.5:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwwAdUKeoWY
Destro - Resto. Not a permablock build, but still very tanky. And again, Hardened Wards used? 3. Healing Wards used? 0. Harness Magicka? Not even slotted.
3rd build, 2 vids this time (3/13/15) patch 1.6:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs9Z6Bfgi4Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMG4sfjJXE8
Destro - S/B off bar. Energy orb as primary heal frees you from having to go Resto off bar. With the increased dmg of 1.6 and ability to stack magicka, shields became mandatory for sorcs. CP means infinite sustain now. This build has increased tankiness thanks to shields. The flipside is, without those shields, you just die, no way around it. Impen no longer negated crit and stam builds would chase you to the ends of the earth if you tried a kiting strategy. Let's see...
The low spell dmg worked because it was the beginning of 1.6 and no one had figured out that Nirn was bugged yet.Teargrants DWO 1 year ago wrote:My dps is low cuz I have to spend half the time recasting shields like crazy, and I speced out of spell dmg in order to keep my mag/stam regens high.
4th build, again 2 vids (3/14/15) patch 1.6:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5iOdcT6t60https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzYuKEzW58
Destro - S/B off bar. Another thing about the switch to 1.6, health was nerfed hard core so instead of stacking 3k health like 1.5, you just stack everything in magicka and use shields instead. So you can blame all those 15k health infinite shield sorcs on Wrobel. It's not their fault, it's just the way the game was redesigned. And no, the solution was never something so simple as "hur dur nerf shields" "hur dur make shields critable" "hur dur make shields not stack". All that needed to be done was to revert to 1.5 and continue minor balance tweaks for stam from there. But I should give credit to Wrobel, he found the one way to nerf shields that literally no one had ever proposed or asked for in any way.
5th build (10/3/15) patch 2.0:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5H8i8xKkks
Destro - Resto. Heavy armor sorc is gutted thanks to Wrobel's idea to "make tanking more interesting" by removing stam regen. Now it is reduced to a stupid gimmick troll build with reactive armor - which is remember, a goddamned stam set. This is the last heavy armor sorc vid Teargrants made, that's almost 9 months ago. I don't know about you, but compare it to all the prior videos. Heavy armor sorc now looks pathetically ineffectual and boring to play at best.
Anyways
I have to agree with Cinn, the sorc shield nerf in DB, when combined with all the prior nerfs, has destroyed the playability of magicka sorc as a whole. This is something I've been saying in PTS, but of course the usual nerf sorc crowd doesn't care a whiff. Back in 1.5 there were so many valid play styles for sorc, you could go double resto like Ezareth, S/B heavy armor like Teargrants, ect. 1.6 reduced that by making 100% uptime shield rotations mandatory to not insta-die. But even then, you had a number of different valid playstyles and truly unique builds to choose from. IC went and said F U to that diversity and also destroyed sorc mobility. Now w/ DB, why should I even log on my sorc except when I need to craft something?
And here's a build I never see anyone discuss, I don't think I've seen anyone other than Teargrants using a med armor mag sorc build. TG destroyed that too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUs6IM9YMLg
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✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »Back in 1.5 there were so many valid play styles for sorc, you could go double resto like Ezareth, S/B heavy armor like Teargrants, ect. 1.6 reduced that by making 100% uptime shield rotations mandatory to not insta-die. But even then, you had a number of different valid playstyles and truly unique builds to choose from. IC went and said F U to that diversity and also destroyed sorc mobility.
I'll agree here, completely and unequivocally. Magicka DK has been similarly gutted. I would take 1.5 back any day of the week.
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No point talking to @PosternHouse, it's like talking to a wall.Ghost-Shot wrote: »@PosternHouse wouldn't you agree?
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✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »Back in 1.5 there were so many valid play styles for sorc, you could go double resto like Ezareth, S/B heavy armor like Teargrants, ect. 1.6 reduced that by making 100% uptime shield rotations mandatory to not insta-die. But even then, you had a number of different valid playstyles and truly unique builds to choose from. IC went and said F U to that diversity and also destroyed sorc mobility.
I'll agree here, completely and unequivocally. Magicka DK has been similarly gutted. I would take 1.5 back any day of the week.
That's why I don't have a lot of hope for a Magicka sorc fix anytime soon. I see a Magicka DK's and think... This is the new normal.1 -
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✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »blazing shield "tanks" and sorcerers intent on doing nothing but spam shields.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mostly derided 6 second duration largely worked in balancing magicka sorcs quite a bit.
Yeah they're balanced because no one plays one anymore. I think, myself included, I saw like 6 sorcs in Cyrodiil this past week.3 -
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Take this to PM. The adults are having a serious conversation.
What's been announced?
Regardless, I'll be fine. I've outperformed despite the rest of the nerfs, and I'll outperform with whatever they do. When have you ever seen me squirm?
It was nice watching you and your emp girl squirm after I 1v2ed then dethroned you this weekend, though. Keep the fights coming baby.
1.) You rekt her while she was sleep deprived, and trying to type to me. You also got rekt by my DK build in heavy armor with only 1.8k spell damage,. Embarrassing dude.
2.) You PvDoor'd after we went to sleep (she hasn't slept for almost 2 full days by that time)
3.) You and your trash group got rekt before we went to bed. And then you got rekt by Krotha today. And guess what? Map is still red. Red like your thin blood once i'm done shedding it.
She was fighting back. Perhaps sleep deprived, but definitely not typing to you.
Your rage tells after I killed her through Pheonix and Malu were juicy by the way. Keep 'em coming. You really showed your *** there.
And you only killed me with her help, and it still took you almost 8 minutes of chasing me around.
We pushed you back to one keep before you logged, and you logged because we were beating you. We didn't dethrone and crown until late morning when plenty of EP and AD were on. My 8 beat 12 AD including Pwned and his dudes at Roe and Alessia, and then about as many EP including your group at Chalm and BRK. And then Krotha didn't do anything to the map until the following night, when he night capped.
And the map is only red in the mornings, after he night caps. By prime time, the map is blue because we have stronger groups and a stronger emp.
Oh and you conveniently leave out the time my 4 man killed like 6 of your group between Alessia and Roe a while back after Noto 1v2ed you and Monty. Had she not been emp, I'd have killed you both too outside of Chalm in the fight you incorrectly recounted here for the forums.
You're welcome to talk ***, but at least be honest in it. lolCinn #SorcLivesMatter
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✭✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »Good sorcs are all adapting, but there are changes that need to be made. The nerfs have gone too far and keeping this set as is in the game is a slap in the face.
What nerfs have NB even had? They're stronger than ever. GTFO with that nonsense.
What's been announced?
Regardless, I'll be fine. I've outperformed despite the rest of the nerfs, and I'll outperform with whatever they do. When have you ever seen me squirm?
It was nice watching you and your emp girl squirm after I 1v2ed then dethroned you this weekend, though. Keep the fights coming baby.
Cloak (which is now useless), Death Stroke, increased detection, increased snares, nerf of proxy. Stamblade got a few buffs with its nerfs, but magicka nightblade which is what we're talking about has been repeatedly nerfed since 1.6
No one is buying your BS. Read the patch notes and know what your'e talking about.
Or go back to your cam where no one gives a *** what you have to say.Edited by KenaPKK on June 25, 2016 3:54AM1 -
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What's been announced?
Regardless, I'll be fine. I've outperformed despite the rest of the nerfs, and I'll outperform with whatever they do. When have you ever seen me squirm?
It was nice watching you and your emp girl squirm after I 1v2ed then dethroned you this weekend, though. Keep the fights coming baby.
What slapping on some Heavy armor with Fasalla's Guile and call that outperforming? What nerfs to NB are you really talking about? Exactly nothing to overcome. LOL to that second bold part brags about killing an emp that was probably afk, i remember watching you get smacked by Sypher like 2 months ago, right after you ate 3 mines and a dawnbreaker you msd him within 5 seconds to say your HP was desynched LOL when you clearly had been outplayed, nothing you say about what happened in a fight ever has any weight to it. Now shoooo.
You didn't even see the fight against Monty. lol She fought back and died, big deal.
And I was charging through Sypher's mines for almost 8 minutes prior to that death. He couldn't keep me from pressuring him, interrupting his Inevitable Dets, and fearing him every 6 seconds. I was heal tanking the mine damage with no problem, as well as the rest of his combo. He even said the health was desynced, as he didn't have the damage to 1 shot me. Sypher and I are friends. Those pms were not an ego thing. We've fought a lot before. When a health desync happens, it happens. It's a common occurrence in long fights.
Regardless, if we'd been fighting without so much freaking sustain from CP, he'd have run out of stam and lost, which he admitted on stream right after the fight. He said he was chugging potions to keep up also, and I wasn't even using potions..
Why are you even bringing this up? lol Twisting stories just like Qaev did... I invite you to fight either Sypher or myself. You've no room to speak if you can't put up a fight.
Edit: Oh, as for nerfs, take a look at my response to Cinn. Mageblade has received repetitive nerfs ever since 1.6 ended, but you two conveniently forget that when it comes to me for some reason... And just slotting heavy armor isn't much of an accomplishment, but fighting that many people with reduced damage and sustain is. I invite you to attempt it.Edited by KenaPKK on June 25, 2016 4:13AM0 -
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✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »Good sorcs are all adapting, but there are changes that need to be made. The nerfs have gone too far and keeping this set as is in the game is a slap in the face.
What nerfs have NB even had? They're stronger than ever. GTFO with that nonsense.
What's been announced?
Regardless, I'll be fine. I've outperformed despite the rest of the nerfs, and I'll outperform with whatever they do. When have you ever seen me squirm?
It was nice watching you and your emp girl squirm after I 1v2ed then dethroned you this weekend, though. Keep the fights coming baby.
Cloak (which is now useless), Death Stroke, increased detection, increased snares, nerf of proxy. Stamblade got a few buffs with its nerfs, but magicka nightblade which is what we're talking about has been repeatedly nerfed since 1.6
No one is buying your BS. Read the patch notes and know what your'e talking about.
Cloak isn't useless. Every fotm NB I run into uses it. NB are easy mod. They've been easy mode, but moreso in this patch.
I don't even... my what?Or go back to your cam where no one gives a *** what you have to say.
Then either contribute to the conversation on shields, or go make your own thread about NB issues. This isn't the place for you guys to argue about your epeens.Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
Take this to PM. The adults are having a serious conversation.
What's been announced?
Regardless, I'll be fine. I've outperformed despite the rest of the nerfs, and I'll outperform with whatever they do. When have you ever seen me squirm?
It was nice watching you and your emp girl squirm after I 1v2ed then dethroned you this weekend, though. Keep the fights coming baby.
1.) You rekt her while she was sleep deprived, and trying to type to me. You also got rekt by my DK build in heavy armor with only 1.8k spell damage,. Embarrassing dude.
2.) You PvDoor'd after we went to sleep (she hasn't slept for almost 2 full days by that time)
3.) You and your trash group got rekt before we went to bed. And then you got rekt by Krotha today. And guess what? Map is still red. Red like your thin blood once i'm done shedding it.
She was fighting back. Perhaps sleep deprived, but definitely not typing to you.
Your rage tells after I killed her through Pheonix and Malu were juicy by the way. Keep 'em coming. You really showed your *** there.
And you only killed me with her help, and it still took you almost 8 minutes of chasing me around.
We pushed you back to one keep before you logged, and you logged because we were beating you. We didn't dethrone and crown until late morning when plenty of EP and AD were on. My 8 beat 12 AD including Pwned and his dudes at Roe and Alessia, and then about as many EP including your group at Chalm and BRK. And then Krotha didn't do anything to the map until the following night, when he night capped.
And the map is only red in the mornings, after he night caps. By prime time, the map is blue because we have stronger groups and a stronger emp.
Oh and you conveniently leave out the time my 4 man killed like 6 of your group between Alessia and Roe a while back after Noto 1v2ed you and Monty. Had she not been emp, I'd have killed you both too outside of Chalm in the fight you incorrectly recounted here for the forums.
You're welcome to talk ***, but at least be honest in it. lol
I invite you to provide an actual response to the argument instead of personal insults and irrational attempts to derail the thread against me personally. Qaev changed the story of what actually happened the other morning, so I set the story straight. Not your business.Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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✭✭@HoloYoitsu Why did you quote me even? Those videos just show what I was talking about...DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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Just wanted to point out the evolution of heavy armor sorc from when it was fun to when it became trash, and how it wasn't always reliant on shield stacking.@HoloYoitsu Why did you quote me even? Those videos just show what I was talking about...
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✭✭✭This is a weird thread.
I hate Heavy Armor Sorc who pulls 30 people over me. There is a hell where all day and night 1.1 DKs flame whip you, and Teargrants shall go there.
QAM and Kena... how refreshing to see this much salt and it's not about my zerg at all!Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Force-Siphon✭✭✭✭Cinn and QAM have been playing sorc forever and are two of the best, so how about we stfu with the salt and who killed who or whatever, way to completely derail the thread for your own ego or something who knows.
I agree with her point which is that a set to balance gameplay mechanics is not really needed at this point considering that a sorc gets instantly vaporized if your shields come down this patch. We also deal with having to build in more sustain this patch because of having to weave shields even more. The community of solo sorcs is basically dead on NA, many are playing alts. I personally find solo sorc fun this patch but only because of the ridiculous hard mode of trying to 1vX when everyone is doing insane damage and your shields are coming down before your healing ward even pops, etc. Mines and atro are even more important this patch than they have ever been, and also streak which has been severely nerfed.
The funny part about people saying negative things to Cinn is that her and Ez ran very unique builds when the sorc meta was destro/resto or DW...this post was written by a player who has always been unique in her theory crafting and never played cookie cutter...maybe if we see past our own epeen and egos we might actually learn something about the state of sorc instead of a spitting contest that's completely irrelevant to the thread. Seriously, grow up.The one and only Force Siphon - PVP Sorc NA
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✭✭✭Force-Siphon wrote: »Cinn and QAM have been playing sorc forever and are two of the best, so how about we stfu with the salt and who killed who or whatever, way to completely derail the thread for your own ego or something who knows.
I agree with her point which is that a set to balance gameplay mechanics is not really needed at this point considering that a sorc gets instantly vaporized if your shields come down this patch. We also deal with having to build in more sustain this patch because of having to weave shields even more. The community of solo sorcs is basically dead on NA, many are playing alts. I personally find solo sorc fun this patch but only because of the ridiculous hard mode of trying to 1vX when everyone is doing insane damage and your shields are coming down before your healing ward even pops, etc. Mines and atro are even more important this patch than they have ever been, and also streak which has been severely nerfed.
The funny part about people saying negative things to Cinn is that her and Ez ran very unique builds when the sorc meta was destro/resto or DW...this post was written by a player who has always been unique in her theory crafting and never played cookie cutter...maybe if we see past our own epeen and egos we might actually learn something about the state of sorc instead of a spitting contest that's completely irrelevant to the thread. Seriously, grow up.
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Fasoo✭✭✭✭Force-Siphon wrote: »Cinn and QAM have been playing sorc forever and are two of the best, so how about we stfu with the salt and who killed who or whatever, way to completely derail the thread for your own ego or something who knows.
I agree with her point which is that a set to balance gameplay mechanics is not really needed at this point considering that a sorc gets instantly vaporized if your shields come down this patch. We also deal with having to build in more sustain this patch because of having to weave shields even more. The community of solo sorcs is basically dead on NA, many are playing alts. I personally find solo sorc fun this patch but only because of the ridiculous hard mode of trying to 1vX when everyone is doing insane damage and your shields are coming down before your healing ward even pops, etc. Mines and atro are even more important this patch than they have ever been, and also streak which has been severely nerfed.
The funny part about people saying negative things to Cinn is that her and Ez ran very unique builds when the sorc meta was destro/resto or DW...this post was written by a player who has always been unique in her theory crafting and never played cookie cutter...maybe if we see past our own epeen and egos we might actually learn something about the state of sorc instead of a spitting contest that's completely irrelevant to the thread. Seriously, grow up.
I'm guilty of this. My STAMPLAR is so fun
I still hop on from time to time though
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My shield stack brings all the salty boys to the yard?This is a weird thread.
I hate Heavy Armor Sorc who pulls 30 people over me. There is a hell where all day and night 1.1 DKs flame whip you, and Teargrants shall go there.
QAM and Kena... how refreshing to see this much salt and it's not about my zerg at all!
I agree!Now my phone suggests the following line as soon as I open the chat, well done.
Fix willows path.Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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