Now that shields have been nerfed into near uselessness...

Cinnamon_Spider

It's well past time to change the Shield Breaker set. Leaving this set in the game after what has been done to shields is like spitting in our faces.

My suggestion woukd be to change the five piece bonus to do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

Ghostbane

THE ROLLER POOPER SET

5 items
On light or heavy attack apply X rolling poop damage over time. Every dodge roll within 5s, the value increases by Y poop damage

Soulac

Day 300 still don't see what's wrong with shield breaker.
I can understand QQ about Malubeth, but shield breaker?

DocFrost72

Soulac wrote: »

Day 300 still don't see what's wrong with shield breaker.
I can understand QQ about Malubeth, but shield breaker?

Only people shield breaker really screws with is permashield builds (sorcs, predominately). That's why we see QQ, cause it is a hard counter. (Sorcs know my pain as a stamblade now... curse, inevitable det, radiant magelight xP)

I'd have been much happier to see shields crit and only reduce them to 10 seconds, that would have been actual balance. But until the day stam builds can stack 7 divines and be glass cannons while having 100% crit resist, shield breaker is cheese but fine.

vamp_emily

As you can see I don't like Sorcerers, their tears mean nothing to me.

THE TOXIC EMILY SET

5 items

Your Light and Heavy attacks deal 14000 irresistible damage and reduces their
shields by 100%, Stuns, and knocks down for 3 sec, explodes reducing
health by 200%

WreckfulAbandon

Best idea I've heard on the forum in ages

rfennell_ESO

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It's well past time to change the Shield Breaker set. Leaving this set in the game after what has been done to shields is like spitting in our faces.

My suggestion woukd be to change the five piece bonus to do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

Just load up CE and jack up health regen like certain sorcs were and you won't have to worry about shield breaker.

Scamandros

I pretend I can jesus beam by resto heavy attacking rollers while making PSSHWSHHWSHHWSHHWSHHWSHH sounds.
Gets me by

frozywozy

Soulac wrote: »

Day 300 still don't see what's wrong with shield breaker.
I can understand QQ about Malubeth, but shield breaker?

Hey, you're only allowed to say "Fix Willow's path"

arkansas_ESO

DocFrost72 wrote: »

stam builds can stack 7 divines and be glass cannons while having 100% crit resist

I seriously can't think of a single magicka spec that can do this in the DB patch, so what's your point?

holosoul

The stamina tears continue even to this day

olsborg

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

Ooo cool, i want a set that does extra dmg to ppl that block or heal or use malubeth or is a templar or dk. Yes..yes..

Cinnamon_Spider

Soulac wrote: »

Day 300 still don't see what's wrong with shield breaker.
I can understand QQ about Malubeth, but shield breaker?

Says the NB...

KenaPKK

Someone got SB spammed. lol

Play something other than max magicka Overload spam, and maybe we'll care what you have to say.

Cinnamon_Spider

KenaPKK wrote: »

Someone got SB spammed. lol

Play something other than max magicka Overload spam, and maybe we'll care what you have to say.

Actually, I didn't. But no one cares what an easy mode NB has to say anyway.

Cody

#argonianmasterrace

DocFrost72

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

stam builds can stack 7 divines and be glass cannons while having 100% crit resist

I seriously can't think of a single magicka spec that can do this in the DB patch, so what's your point?

Or how about all of them. You know, cause of the changes to dampen? Sorcs are the heaviest users of shields cause they ONLY have shields, and that is a class issue. That said, to pretend one can't run 7 divines and ward for that sweet, sweet crit resist is disingenuous.

Ever seen a stam build try that? They're the ones you melt xP

americansteel

youre title is a joke

sorcerers still kill other classes

l2p

l2adapt or leave eso

sorceres and NBs dominate pvp

stop crying

Xsorus

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It's well past time to change the Shield Breaker set. Leaving this set in the game after what has been done to shields is like spitting in our faces.

My suggestion woukd be to change the five piece bonus to do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

So i assume you don't stack shields anymore at all on your sorc..

Probably don't even run a single one on your bar since ya know..they're useless

*grin*

Minalan

americansteel wrote: »

youre title is a joke

sorcerers still kill other classes

l2p

l2adapt or leave eso

sorceres and NBs dominate pvp

stop crying

If you can't kill a sorc, you need help as a Templar.

In fact, I'll gladly teach you if you hit me up in game.

I can help, no joke or being a jerk. The offer is sincere.

Cinnamon_Spider

Xsorus wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It's well past time to change the Shield Breaker set. Leaving this set in the game after what has been done to shields is like spitting in our faces.

My suggestion woukd be to change the five piece bonus to do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

So i assume you don't stack shields anymore at all on your sorc..

Probably don't even run a single one on your bar since ya know..they're useless

*grin*

Reading comprehension, dude. My words were near uselessness. We have no choice but to use them gimped as they are.

bikerangelo

Pretty sure this is more about the overarching problems with itemization and game balance rather than a sorc being uncomfortable with a poorly designed set. I can't think of any other sets that directly counter only 1 class & playstyle.

Jules

Just change shield breaker to do x amount more damage to shields instead of this light attack = unresistable damage crap. Idk what % damage would be worth this but some amount would. This way, shields are up, more damage is done to shields, thus, breaking the shield. Shield breaker. If shields are down, you have no unresistable damage. Voila.

Lord_Hev

KenaPKK wrote: »

Someone got SB spammed. lol

Play something other than max magicka Overload spam, and maybe we'll care what you have to say.

NB nerfs are coming with next patch. Can't wait to see you squirm.

KenaPKK

Lord_Hev wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Someone got SB spammed. lol

Play something other than max magicka Overload spam, and maybe we'll care what you have to say.

NB nerfs are coming with next patch. Can't wait to see you squirm.

What's been announced?

Regardless, I'll be fine. I've outperformed despite the rest of the nerfs, and I'll outperform with whatever they do. When have you ever seen me squirm?

It was nice watching you and your emp girl squirm after I 1v2ed then dethroned you this weekend, though. Keep the fights coming baby.

Tsar_Bogatyr

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It's well past time to change the Shield Breaker set. Leaving this set in the game after what has been done to shields is like spitting in our faces.

My suggestion woukd be to change the five piece bonus to do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

So i assume you don't stack shields anymore at all on your sorc..

Probably don't even run a single one on your bar since ya know..they're useless

*grin*

Reading comprehension, dude. My words were near uselessness. We have no choice but to use them gimped as they are.

How are they gimped? they still absorb the same amount of damage, what's your problem?

holosoul

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It's well past time to change the Shield Breaker set. Leaving this set in the game after what has been done to shields is like spitting in our faces.

My suggestion woukd be to change the five piece bonus to do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

So i assume you don't stack shields anymore at all on your sorc..

Probably don't even run a single one on your bar since ya know..they're useless

*grin*

Reading comprehension, dude. My words were near uselessness. We have no choice but to use them gimped as they are.

How are they gimped? they still absorb the same amount of damage, what's your problem?

the problem is that basically every good sorc player considers their shield a pro-active and not a reactive defense.
wrobel thought otherwise, but unfortunately this playstyle (of not casting shields until you are taking damage) is not very viable because sorcs cannot take very much damage.

KenaPKK

americansteel wrote: »

youre title is a joke

sorcerers still kill other classes

l2p

l2adapt or leave eso

sorceres and NBs dominate pvp

stop crying

magplars tho

ToRelax

This looks promising.

Cinnamon_Spider

Good sorcs are all adapting, but there are changes that need to be made. The nerfs have gone too far and keeping this set as is in the game is a slap in the face.

KenaPKK wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Someone got SB spammed. lol

Play something other than max magicka Overload spam, and maybe we'll care what you have to say.

NB nerfs are coming with next patch. Can't wait to see you squirm.

What's been announced?

Regardless, I'll be fine. I've outperformed despite the rest of the nerfs, and I'll outperform with whatever they do. When have you ever seen me squirm?

It was nice watching you and your emp girl squirm after I 1v2ed then dethroned you this weekend, though. Keep the fights coming baby.

What nerfs have NB even had? They're stronger than ever. GTFO with that nonsense.

Cinnamon_Spider

holosoul wrote: »

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It's well past time to change the Shield Breaker set. Leaving this set in the game after what has been done to shields is like spitting in our faces.

My suggestion woukd be to change the five piece bonus to do extra damage to roll dodgers or to NB. They have it too easy right now.

So i assume you don't stack shields anymore at all on your sorc..

Probably don't even run a single one on your bar since ya know..they're useless

*grin*

Reading comprehension, dude. My words were near uselessness. We have no choice but to use them gimped as they are.

How are they gimped? they still absorb the same amount of damage, what's your problem?

the problem is that basically every good sorc player considers their shield a pro-active and not a reactive defense.
wrobel thought otherwise, but unfortunately this playstyle (of not casting shields until you are taking damage) is not very viable because sorcs cannot take very much damage.

Exactly. Any CC while our shield wears out and we're done for. Get stuck trying to cast on the wrong bar after failed swap and we're done for. There is no other viable option but light armor for our class and it's like paper thanks to changes made back at the start of 1.6. Even with max cp, stam builds rip through it easily.