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Best MMO 2016, so far. From MMOGames. Vote ESO! (mmogames.com) VOTE ESO!!!
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭KhajiitiLizard wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »
Copying my response from the same thread on Reddit.
Considering Zenimax is part of the package with ESO, the game doesn't deserve to win.
It's called best MMO poll, not best company poll.
Yes, because the company developing the game doesn't affect at all the player's experience. Sigh...
Then judge the experience. Not the company.
"i do not like this game because the experience is bad" is okay
"i do not like this game because it was made by company X" is not okay
/facepalm... the company has a huge affect on the quality of the game. Currently the experience is: lag, bugs, crashing, exploits, and hackers... all things this company has no idea what to do with.
But can you praise the devs of the other games and say they do their jobs perfectly? If not then you can see Sharee's point.
I don't even notice because pretty much any other company is way more competent at development then ZOS is.
Yeah that's just personal hatred speaking then.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭ESO has my vote.PC/NA, Level 50 * Current Champion Points: 1600+
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Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭Don't care what any one says, WoW still tops my list for best MMO.
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✭✭✭✭✭Haxnschwammer wrote: »Stopped playing EVE 2 years ago to play ESO. I regret that now.
Best MMO? Exploits, Bots, Cheats, Lags and a almost non existent customer suport....
I vote EVE, no doubt.
Let my EVE Sub lapse for only the second time in seven years just after fanfest this year. The game is still fantastic but I wasn't really doing anything on it and only paying to train skills which I really didn't need. Decided I would head over to ESO fully and stop the half-in half-out that you dance around when you play two MMO games.
I too kind of regret it now with everything that's been happening the last couple of months in ESO. I really want this to be a great game but I can't get over the strange direction and lack of security the game has.I wonder if ZOS will notice the trend of how CCP Games gets votes from people who are not actually playing their game because they do such a good job with the game as developers.
What makes you think that we don't play EVE as well?- From where comes the notion, that you can just play one or the other?
EVE has another principle of how skill is gained - it is time-based, you don't have to grind in EVE. Me for example, I have items and ships in production which need attention this afternoon again, but not before. When it will be ready, I will login, set up the new production, get the products to the trade hub, buy a bunch of new resources and arrange the transport to where I need them. But before it will be afternoon, I can do something else.
Sure some people play both, I did for the last two years. However there are many I know like myself who vote for EVE Online every year in these kinds of things but have since moved in. I guess it's an EVE culture thing that once you've been a player in some way you're always a player.
could be, they return sooner or later anyway - because EVE will still be around, when the others will be gone.
Uhh, right after fanfest, so you missed out on the new citadels which are now popping up all over the place in the universe, with player-driven station services and so many ways to play EVE in new ways. Just on wednesday after fanfest they released that expansion.
Yeah, I was over in Iceland for fanfest but wanted a break from the game as well, everything is super exciting right now especially coming off the end of world war bee. I'll probably get shunned for saying it but I am part of CVA and a Caldari RP Corp so there isn't really much happening in the game for me right now.
Any way should probably stop derailing this thread.
For me it has made a huge difference, there is a shift in the economy which has earned me a fortune, because I speculated on the right things and it is still ongoing. But you are right, we have said our part and why ESO is not the best MMO for us.2 -
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✭I'm surprised FF14 doesn't have more votes than TESO thats the real question here FF14 is amazing probably the best fantasy MMO next to WOWXbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »
Copying my response from the same thread on Reddit.
Considering Zenimax is part of the package with ESO, the game doesn't deserve to win.
It's called best MMO poll, not best company poll.
Yes, because the company developing the game doesn't affect at all the player's experience. Sigh...
Then judge the experience. Not the company.
"i do not like this game because the experience is bad" is okay
"i do not like this game because it was made by company X" is not okay
/facepalm... the company has a huge affect on the quality of the game. Currently the experience is: lag, bugs, crashing, exploits, and hackers... all things this company has no idea what to do with.
But can you praise the devs of the other games and say they do their jobs perfectly? If not then you can see Sharee's point.
Other companies responsible for MMOs certainly do a MUCH better job than Zenimax, I am sorry. The fact you can expect at least two automated, useless responses everytime you try contacting the customer support is ridiculous. That Zenimax is being so tolerant of cheat engines and exploits being used, even reaching the point in which they are lifting bans from players that had received permanent bans is a betrayal of the community's trust. That this forum is more about censoring opinions than it is about creating communication between Zenimax and their players is pathetic.
So, yes... Other MMO companies have issues and other MMOs have issues too, but from the MMOs I've played, I struggle to remember one company that treated their players as poorly as Zenimax does.7 -
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✭✭ESO has my vote, though it was close with SWTOR and TSW.
As a casual quester and RPer, ESO is pretty good compared to most of the competion.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »
Copying my response from the same thread on Reddit.
Considering Zenimax is part of the package with ESO, the game doesn't deserve to win.
It's called best MMO poll, not best company poll.
Yes, because the company developing the game doesn't affect at all the player's experience. Sigh...
Then judge the experience. Not the company.
"i do not like this game because the experience is bad" is okay
"i do not like this game because it was made by company X" is not okay
/facepalm... the company has a huge affect on the quality of the game. Currently the experience is: lag, bugs, crashing, exploits, and hackers... all things this company has no idea what to do with.
But can you praise the devs of the other games and say they do their jobs perfectly? If not then you can see Sharee's point.
Other companies responsible for MMOs certainly do a MUCH better job than Zenimax, I am sorry. The fact you can expect at least two automated, useless responses everytime you try contacting the customer support is ridiculous. That Zenimax is being so tolerant of cheat engines and exploits being used, even reaching the point in which they are lifting bans from players that had received permanent bans is a betrayal of the community's trust. That this forum is more about censoring opinions than it is about creating communication between Zenimax and their players is pathetic.
So, yes... Other MMO companies have issues and other MMOs have issues too, but from the MMOs I've played, I struggle to remember one company that treated their players as poorly as Zenimax does.
Trion who run Archeage are far worse - ZOS is gold compared to them.0 -
KhajiitiLizard✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »
Copying my response from the same thread on Reddit.
Considering Zenimax is part of the package with ESO, the game doesn't deserve to win.
It's called best MMO poll, not best company poll.
Yes, because the company developing the game doesn't affect at all the player's experience. Sigh...
Then judge the experience. Not the company.
"i do not like this game because the experience is bad" is okay
"i do not like this game because it was made by company X" is not okay
/facepalm... the company has a huge affect on the quality of the game. Currently the experience is: lag, bugs, crashing, exploits, and hackers... all things this company has no idea what to do with.
But can you praise the devs of the other games and say they do their jobs perfectly? If not then you can see Sharee's point.
I don't even notice because pretty much any other company is way more competent at development then ZOS is.
Yeah that's just personal hatred speaking then.
Is it? None, I repeat NONE of the other games I play have ever had the sheer amount on incompetence in the devs... core game mechanics failing, game crashes, rampant hacking and exploiting. People losing characters because they can't log in because the zone is poorly optimized and they crash. 999+ ping 8 fps in PVP... THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I've been playing this game since beta and I'm sick of this sheet.7 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »
Copying my response from the same thread on Reddit.
Considering Zenimax is part of the package with ESO, the game doesn't deserve to win.
It's called best MMO poll, not best company poll.
Yes, because the company developing the game doesn't affect at all the player's experience. Sigh...
Then judge the experience. Not the company.
"i do not like this game because the experience is bad" is okay
"i do not like this game because it was made by company X" is not okay
/facepalm... the company has a huge affect on the quality of the game. Currently the experience is: lag, bugs, crashing, exploits, and hackers... all things this company has no idea what to do with.
But can you praise the devs of the other games and say they do their jobs perfectly? If not then you can see Sharee's point.
Other companies responsible for MMOs certainly do a MUCH better job than Zenimax, I am sorry. The fact you can expect at least two automated, useless responses everytime you try contacting the customer support is ridiculous. That Zenimax is being so tolerant of cheat engines and exploits being used, even reaching the point in which they are lifting bans from players that had received permanent bans is a betrayal of the community's trust. That this forum is more about censoring opinions than it is about creating communication between Zenimax and their players is pathetic.
So, yes... Other MMO companies have issues and other MMOs have issues too, but from the MMOs I've played, I struggle to remember one company that treated their players as poorly as Zenimax does.
And that is fine and all but there are no doubt people on other games saying the same thing about that game's devs. Frankly they're all bad in their own way but I for one know of worse companies than Zenimax... Regardless it really is unfair to a game to say it's no good because you disapprove of a few issues the devs of said game have been working to fix for awhile but have not yet and thus hate and blame them when the same thing can be said about the other games just as easily. In fact, in that regard every forum community is the same because the other communities will have people doing the exact same towards those games... For that reason they vote for best game and not best game and company and it's unfair to the game itself to do otherwise. That is the point Sharee is trying to make.
Personally though... I don't give a damn about voting, even for the next president of the US.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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I have to asked played Swtor for a very long time.as a serious player and as a casual role player what put this game over Swtor in your opinion?I personally feel Swtor quest were more entertaining then ESO.I still remember the initial quest after becoming a apprentice to Lord Zash as a Sith Inquisitor you had to defame and take over this fellow Sith lord Cult.It was amazingly written on made you feel like a true Sith.ESO has my vote, though it was close with SWTOR and TSW.
As a casual quester and RPer, ESO is pretty good compared to most of the competion.2 -
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✭✭✭KhajiitiLizard wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »KhajiitiLizard wrote: »frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »
Copying my response from the same thread on Reddit.
Considering Zenimax is part of the package with ESO, the game doesn't deserve to win.
It's called best MMO poll, not best company poll.
Yes, because the company developing the game doesn't affect at all the player's experience. Sigh...
Then judge the experience. Not the company.
"i do not like this game because the experience is bad" is okay
"i do not like this game because it was made by company X" is not okay
/facepalm... the company has a huge affect on the quality of the game. Currently the experience is: lag, bugs, crashing, exploits, and hackers... all things this company has no idea what to do with.
But can you praise the devs of the other games and say they do their jobs perfectly? If not then you can see Sharee's point.
I don't even notice because pretty much any other company is way more competent at development then ZOS is.
Yeah that's just personal hatred speaking then.
Is it? None, I repeat NONE of the other games I play have ever had the sheer amount on incompetence in the devs... core game mechanics failing, game crashes, rampant hacking and exploiting. People losing characters because they can't log in because the zone is poorly optimized and they crash. 999+ ping 8 fps in PVP... THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I've been playing this game since beta and I'm sick of this sheet.
Then why are you still here? Seriously I see this so often and wonder the exact same thing everytime. The answer is always "I'm waiting for the game to come back around so I can enjoy it again" but is that REALLY the case? Or are you and people like you just torturing yourselves and/or sticking around to spread the gospel of the naysayer cult?Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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mistermutiny89✭✭✭✭✭Please don't give ZoS anymore awards for this game until they fix all the performance issues. They don't deserve any of them.Guild Leader : Defenders Of Miley
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭mistermutiny89 wrote: »Please don't give ZoS anymore awards for this game until they fix all the performance issues. They don't deserve any of them.
They're not. It's an award for the game, not the devs.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Can you personally vouch for each and every one of them though?Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭I can give ZOS that, what was stated in the reasoning for best MMO 2015 - they make an effort, and they are still doing that, you can see, that they are actually listening and cater to some of the things players actually want. But I think, that their team might be overburdened with the tasks on hand. Some blame ZOS for a smaller upcoming DLC, but forget with it, that they had a lot of work to do with the japanese version, which launched recently as well. ZOS might just have too less staff.0 -
KhajiitiLizard✭✭✭✭✭Because when the game wasn't bugged to hell, full of cheaters, and poor performance it was great. It's sad to see that happen and just sit here wishing the devs would actually fix all this crap but that's never happening. It's just gonna get buggier and buggier until everyone quits. %99 of my friends list does not play any more, my old PVP guild is dead because of performance issues with the game and cheaters... I have no reason to stick around. Solo questing got boring and with the group finder broken I can't even run dungeons which was the last thing keeping me in the game.5
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✭✭✭✭✭ESO is the best it has ever been.
Can't say the same about those other MMOs, although I only played STO extensively and that game (and company) were a mess.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
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✭I can give ZOS that, what was stated in the reasoning for best MMO 2015 - they make an effort, and they are still doing that, you can see, that they are actually listening and cater to some of the things players actually want. But I think, that their team might be overburdened with the tasks on hand. Some blame ZOS for a smaller upcoming DLC, but forget with it, that they had a lot of work to do with the japanese version, which launched recently as well. ZOS might just have too less staff.
What part of them lifting bans that were supposed to be permanent translate to them trying to fix the cheating going on both in PvP and PvE? I am sorry, but I just don't see it.
You want more? How does implementing the wrong patch to Consoles translates to trying? How does taking days to move a character out a city so the player can finally log in translates to trying?
Sure, they are trying to make a good game, but are they succeeding? Are they trying hard enough? I don't think so.3 -
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✭✭✭KhajiitiLizard wrote: »Because when the game wasn't bugged to hell, full of cheaters, and poor performance it was great. It's sad to see that happen and just sit here wishing the devs would actually fix all this crap but that's never happening. It's just gonna get buggier and buggier until everyone quits. %99 of my friends list does not play any more, my old PVP guild is dead because of performance issues with the game and cheaters... I have no reason to stick around. Solo questing got boring and with the group finder broken I can't even run dungeons which was the last thing keeping me in the game.
So you're still here because of how the game used to be and now have no reason to stick around at all? Sorry if I'm having trouble making sense of that but it does indeed sound like you stick around in hopes the game turns around for you. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭I can give ZOS that, what was stated in the reasoning for best MMO 2015 - they make an effort, and they are still doing that, you can see, that they are actually listening and cater to some of the things players actually want. But I think, that their team might be overburdened with the tasks on hand. Some blame ZOS for a smaller upcoming DLC, but forget with it, that they had a lot of work to do with the japanese version, which launched recently as well. ZOS might just have too less staff.
What part of them lifting bans that were supposed to be permanent translate to them trying to fix the cheating going on both in PvP and PvE? I am sorry, but I just don't see it.
You want more? How does implementing the wrong patch to Consoles translates to trying? How does taking days to move a character out a city so the player can finally log in translates to trying?
Sure, they are trying to make a good game, but are they succeeding? Are they trying hard enough? I don't think so.
Where exactly did you get "the wrong patch" from? Seriously I'd like to know.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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mistermutiny89✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »mistermutiny89 wrote: »Please don't give ZoS anymore awards for this game until they fix all the performance issues. They don't deserve any of them.
They're not. It's an award for the game, not the devs.
You don't give a painting an award when it wins, you give the award to the artist...
(Where was that guy's head just now?) haha.
Edited by mistermutiny89 on June 23, 2016 8:41AMGuild Leader : Defenders Of Miley
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✭✭✭✭✭I can give ZOS that, what was stated in the reasoning for best MMO 2015 - they make an effort, and they are still doing that, you can see, that they are actually listening and cater to some of the things players actually want. But I think, that their team might be overburdened with the tasks on hand. Some blame ZOS for a smaller upcoming DLC, but forget with it, that they had a lot of work to do with the japanese version, which launched recently as well. ZOS might just have too less staff.
What part of them lifting bans that were supposed to be permanent translate to them trying to fix the cheating going on both in PvP and PvE? I am sorry, but I just don't see it.
You want more? How does implementing the wrong patch to Consoles translates to trying? How does taking days to move a character out a city so the player can finally log in translates to trying?
Sure, they are trying to make a good game, but are they succeeding? Are they trying hard enough? I don't think so.
I never said, they would succeed, I just said, that the same is still true, they make an effort - and I said further, maybe they have just too less staff to be successful in all of this. Lifting bans does not fall into this category, but on the other side, we have not enough or any information about the background of those bans and why those were lifted - so how could we be able to say, this was ok or not?- We do not have the information.1 -
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✭✭✭mistermutiny89 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »mistermutiny89 wrote: »Please don't give ZoS anymore awards for this game until they fix all the performance issues. They don't deserve any of them.
They're not. It's an award for the game, not the devs.
You don't give a painting an award when it wins, you give the award to the artist...
(Where was that guy's head just now?) haha.
Wrong. At best the painting itself is the artist's award when the painting gets the award. You don't see people admiring the artist when the painting is prized, you see them admiring the painting.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »I can give ZOS that, what was stated in the reasoning for best MMO 2015 - they make an effort, and they are still doing that, you can see, that they are actually listening and cater to some of the things players actually want. But I think, that their team might be overburdened with the tasks on hand. Some blame ZOS for a smaller upcoming DLC, but forget with it, that they had a lot of work to do with the japanese version, which launched recently as well. ZOS might just have too less staff.
What part of them lifting bans that were supposed to be permanent translate to them trying to fix the cheating going on both in PvP and PvE? I am sorry, but I just don't see it.
You want more? How does implementing the wrong patch to Consoles translates to trying? How does taking days to move a character out a city so the player can finally log in translates to trying?
Sure, they are trying to make a good game, but are they succeeding? Are they trying hard enough? I don't think so.
Where exactly did you get "the wrong patch" from? Seriously I'd like to know.
A bug related to how Thaumaturgy affects certain abilities was fixed on the PTS... But they rolled out the wrong version of the patch to consoles and thus Templar abilities are not affected by points spent in that particular allocation. Zenimax has admitted to that, you can search the forum to find it.1 -
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »mistermutiny89 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »mistermutiny89 wrote: »Please don't give ZoS anymore awards for this game until they fix all the performance issues. They don't deserve any of them.
They're not. It's an award for the game, not the devs.
You don't give a painting an award when it wins, you give the award to the artist...
(Where was that guy's head just now?) haha.
Wrong. At best the painting itself is the artist's award when the painting gets the award. You don't see people admiring the artist when the painting is prized, you see them admiring the painting.
Aaaaaaaand writing books and articles praising the artist.I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »mistermutiny89 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »mistermutiny89 wrote: »Please don't give ZoS anymore awards for this game until they fix all the performance issues. They don't deserve any of them.
They're not. It's an award for the game, not the devs.
You don't give a painting an award when it wins, you give the award to the artist...
(Where was that guy's head just now?) haha.
Wrong. At best the painting itself is the artist's award when the painting gets the award. You don't see people admiring the artist when the painting is prized, you see them admiring the painting.
Id be embarrassed to receive an award for this game. If it was based solely on certain aspects I.e art/story line sure,support alone is the worst of any game I've ever played.1
