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How do people 1vx so well?
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krathos✭✭✭✭✭s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »Most 1vX's are actually PvRock.
PvTree even better. Crazy the amount of time I get a dodge roll spammer to 10% hps and he get saved by a tree. I still have to learn that trick myself. I always tend to get outnumbered in openfield with nowhere to go.
simple. go to tree. tree is life. the rest takes care of itself.Flapjack Palmdale
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DHale✭✭✭✭✭
✭Easy one to answer. He was AD you guys DC. Had ep been there that AD would have schooled 10 at least. Nothing wrong with being second place.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.1 -
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✭✭✭I can 1VsX on the forums. The best ingame was 1Vs8. I don't think they knew what they were doing at all either. 1vs3 is more common for me to run into.1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The easiest way to 1vX is to use a tool that rhymes with "eat chengine". Apparently you'll get permanently banned and then unbanned a few days later. You can't talk about it either, because ZOS is humiliated about it and extra-sensitive about how terribly they responded to the whole situation.
The next way is to use broken builds with secret bugged abilities, like putting one point into the Stam sorc pulverize passive instead of two. Do that and it procs on every kill instead of 5% (one in twenty). Then when your secret is accidentally revealed on the forums, you delete your posts and hide it. Because you don't want anyone to know your secret broken build. It's better to run around with a ridiculously overpowered move and have everyone worship you on the Internet...
Yes you too can be an 'elite' streamer, and be adored by many as 'great' in the ego stroking "who is the best on PC/NA" threads...
*** those losers. They aren't all that great, not when everyone learns their secret. If only the whole NFL started using deflated footballs...
(Will probably get warned or banned for this. Don't care anymore. No more faith in people anymore being fair or sporting in a simple video game.)Edited by Minalan on June 19, 2016 4:00PM8 -
Skitttles✭✭✭✭The easiest way to 1vX is to use a tool that rhymes with "eat chengine". Apparently you'll get permanently banned and then unbanned a few days later. You can't talk about it either, because ZOS is humiliated about it and extra-sensitive about how terribly they responded to the whole situation.
The next way is to use broken builds with secret bugged abilities, like putting one point into the Stam sorc pulverize passive instead of two. Do that and it procs on every kill instead of 5% (one in twenty). Then when your secret is accidentally revealed on the forums, you delete your posts and hide it. Because you don't want anyone to know your secret broken build. It's better to run around with a ridiculously overpowered move and have everyone worship you on the Internet...
Yes you too can be an 'elite' streamer, and be adored by many as 'great' in the ego stroking "who is the best on PC/NA" threads...
*** those losers. They aren't all that great, not when everyone learns their secret. If only the whole NFL started using deflated footballs...
(Will probably get warned or banned for this. Don't care anymore. No more faith in people anymore being fair or sporting in a simple video game.)
Yeeee dawgie you salty afSkittles | DC Stem Sok and sumtimes Nertbled6 -
WreckfulAbandon✭✭✭✭✭
✭The easiest way to 1vX is to use a tool that rhymes with "eat chengine". Apparently you'll get permanently banned and then unbanned a few days later. You can't talk about it either, because ZOS is humiliated about it and extra-sensitive about how terribly they responded to the whole situation.
The next way is to use broken builds with secret bugged abilities, like putting one point into the Stam sorc pulverize passive instead of two. Do that and it procs on every kill instead of 5% (one in twenty). Then when your secret is accidentally revealed on the forums, you delete your posts and hide it. Because you don't want anyone to know your secret broken build. It's better to run around with a ridiculously overpowered move and have everyone worship you on the Internet...
Yes you too can be an 'elite' streamer, and be adored by many as 'great' in the ego stroking "who is the best on PC/NA" threads...
*** those losers. They aren't all that great, not when everyone learns their secret. If only the whole NFL started using deflated footballs...
(Will probably get warned or banned for this. Don't care anymore. No more faith in people anymore being fair or sporting in a simple video game.)
Yeeee dawgie you salty af
Salty but right.
It's not all streamers/1vXers but fair play is a foreign concept to some of them.Edited by WreckfulAbandon on June 22, 2016 8:51PMPC NA
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KenaPKK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WreckfulAbandon wrote: »The easiest way to 1vX is to use a tool that rhymes with "eat chengine". Apparently you'll get permanently banned and then unbanned a few days later. You can't talk about it either, because ZOS is humiliated about it and extra-sensitive about how terribly they responded to the whole situation.
The next way is to use broken builds with secret bugged abilities, like putting one point into the Stam sorc pulverize passive instead of two. Do that and it procs on every kill instead of 5% (one in twenty). Then when your secret is accidentally revealed on the forums, you delete your posts and hide it. Because you don't want anyone to know your secret broken build. It's better to run around with a ridiculously overpowered move and have everyone worship you on the Internet...
Yes you too can be an 'elite' streamer, and be adored by many as 'great' in the ego stroking "who is the best on PC/NA" threads...
*** those losers. They aren't all that great, not when everyone learns their secret. If only the whole NFL started using deflated footballs...
(Will probably get warned or banned for this. Don't care anymore. No more faith in people anymore being fair or sporting in a simple video game.)
Yeeee dawgie you salty af
Salty but right.
It's not all streamers/1vXers but fair play is a foreign concept to some of them.
Not as many as people like to think. The witch hunt is strong lately.
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Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Here's a clue. If 4 players pound on one guy, and his health hardly moves, then you can bet he is cheating or exploiting. And yes this happens every time I PvP on Hadereus so it is VERY widespread there. Along with wall climbing and keep door cheating and infinite ultimates. This game is a cheaters paradise. I report and move onto other stuff when this happens. All of us should.Edited by Thrasher91604 on June 22, 2016 9:37PM0 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Here's a clue. If 4 players pound on one guy, and his health hardly moves, then you can bet he is cheating or exploiting. And yes this happens every time I PvP on Hadereus so it is VERY widespread there. Along with wall climbing and keep door cheating and infinite ultimates. This game is a cheaters paradise. I report and move onto other stuff when this happens. All of us should.
Untrue. There are legitimate tanky builds that can do that. IMO, what a majority of players think is cheating is not. This is a way in which the bad polices of ZOS hurt legitimate players.Edited by zyk on June 23, 2016 3:40AM6 -
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✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Here's a clue. If 4 players pound on one guy, and his health hardly moves, then you can bet he is cheating or exploiting. And yes this happens every time I PvP on Hadereus so it is VERY widespread there. Along with wall climbing and keep door cheating and infinite ultimates. This game is a cheaters paradise. I report and move onto other stuff when this happens. All of us should.
Or he's properly built, and the 4 aren't? Happens all the time.5 -
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✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Here's a clue. If 4 players pound on one guy, and his health hardly moves, then you can bet he is cheating or exploiting.
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Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Uh right. Show me a non-exploiting build that can keep 40k damage / sec from hurting him forever. Doesn't exist.Edited by Thrasher91604 on June 22, 2016 10:17PM1
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The-Baconator✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Here's a clue. If 4 players pound on one guy, and his health hardly moves, then you can bet he is cheating or exploiting. And yes this happens every time I PvP on Hadereus so it is VERY widespread there. Along with wall climbing and keep door cheating and infinite ultimates. This game is a cheaters paradise. I report and move onto other stuff when this happens. All of us should.
There are plenty of builds that can tank double the amount of players forever if they're bad enough, its not even that hard to do. I suggest you maybe look at different builds and what they can do in the hands of a skilled player before your scream CE just because someone 1vX'd you.First PS4 NA Grand Overlord, Stormproof, and Flawless Conqueror.
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Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭If you think you're so smart, answer how a non-cheat/exploit build can tank 40k/sec forever without taking damage.
Anyone denying this without proof is a suspect cheater in my eyes.Edited by Thrasher91604 on June 22, 2016 10:50PM1 -
Skitttles✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Here's a clue. If 4 players pound on one guy, and his health hardly moves, then you can bet he is cheating or exploiting. And yes this happens every time I PvP on Hadereus so it is VERY widespread there. Along with wall climbing and keep door cheating and infinite ultimates. This game is a cheaters paradise. I report and move onto other stuff when this happens. All of us should.
No thats just a good player vs bad players.Skittles | DC Stem Sok and sumtimes Nertbled2 -
Elong✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »If you think you're so smart, answer how a non-cheat/exploit build can tank 40k/sec forever without taking damage.
Anyone denying this without proof is a suspect cheater in my eyes.
You're more likely doing 4k/sec and over selling your ability.9 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Right. By ignoring my other clarifying posts you're not very convincing...
"If you think you're so smart, answer how a non-cheat/exploit build can tank 40k/sec forever without taking damage.
Anyone denying this without proof is a suspect cheater in my eyes."Edited by Thrasher91604 on June 22, 2016 11:53PM0 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »If you think you're so smart, answer how a non-cheat/exploit build can tank 40k/sec forever without taking damage.
Anyone denying this without proof is a suspect cheater in my eyes.
You're more likely doing 4k/sec and over selling your ability.
Uh no, I actually have a combat log and can see what is going on....
I'm the lowest damage dealer in the group and am at about 10k / sec myself.
The 3 others do more than me, so 40k/sec may be actually understated.
But go on and keep defending the cheaters. It will continue to ruin the game.Edited by Thrasher91604 on June 22, 2016 11:57PM1 -
Elong✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Thrasher91604 wrote: »If you think you're so smart, answer how a non-cheat/exploit build can tank 40k/sec forever without taking damage.
Anyone denying this without proof is a suspect cheater in my eyes.
You're more likely doing 4k/sec and over selling your ability.
Uh no, I actually have a combat log and can see what is going on....
I'm the lowest damage dealer in the group and am at about 10k / sec myself.
The 3 others do more than me, so 40k/sec may be actually understated.
But go on and keep defending the cheaters. It will continue to ruin the game.
I'm not defending anyone or anything. I'm simply giving you the most likely scenario. You seem quite aggressive, it's a bit uncalled for, perhaps use that aggression to lift your dps.7 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Sure you are. You are telling me I am underselling my abilities, when we all know that cheaters are pervasive in this game. This has nothing to do with chance. The facts are in the combat logs.1
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WreckfulAbandon✭✭✭✭✭
✭WreckfulAbandon wrote: »The easiest way to 1vX is to use a tool that rhymes with "eat chengine". Apparently you'll get permanently banned and then unbanned a few days later. You can't talk about it either, because ZOS is humiliated about it and extra-sensitive about how terribly they responded to the whole situation.
The next way is to use broken builds with secret bugged abilities, like putting one point into the Stam sorc pulverize passive instead of two. Do that and it procs on every kill instead of 5% (one in twenty). Then when your secret is accidentally revealed on the forums, you delete your posts and hide it. Because you don't want anyone to know your secret broken build. It's better to run around with a ridiculously overpowered move and have everyone worship you on the Internet...
Yes you too can be an 'elite' streamer, and be adored by many as 'great' in the ego stroking "who is the best on PC/NA" threads...
*** those losers. They aren't all that great, not when everyone learns their secret. If only the whole NFL started using deflated footballs...
(Will probably get warned or banned for this. Don't care anymore. No more faith in people anymore being fair or sporting in a simple video game.)
Yeeee dawgie you salty af
Salty but right.
It's not all streamers/1vXers but fair play is a foreign concept to some of them.
Not as many as people like to think. The witch hunt is strong lately.
At launch PvP was plagued by beta testers who exploited the *** out of some things they conveniently didn't notice in their testing.
I wasn't referring to CE but the idea that you don't use things like double mundus or overload bar bug because it falls outside the boundaries of the game as intended by ZOS.PC NA
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Perhaps you do 10K/s damage against poorly built characters, but you're definitely not going to do anywhere close to that against a tanky and/or perma blocking build. Especially when defensive abilities like minor maim, damage shields, mit ultimates, etc are used.. And then there's malubeth, major mending and major vitality.Thrasher91604 wrote: »If you think you're so smart, answer how a non-cheat/exploit build can tank 40k/sec forever without taking damage.
This statement says it all. If you are going to assume anyone doubting your factless story is a cheater, that proves you are capable of baseless accusations and assumptions. I don't know who you or your friends are. You have provided no evidence at all. You merely claim you see blatant cheating everywhere and expect people to believe you. The onus is on you to provide proof to back your statement.Thrasher91604 wrote: »Anyone denying this without proof is a suspect cheater in my eyes.
I believe the probability is that many players are cheating in Cyrodiil in subtle ways, but it is extremely rare to see it happening blatantly. When I think someone might be cheating, I save a video clip, if possible, and analyze it later. Most of the time, I realize that I missed details while fighting and there's no evidence of cheating.8 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Well that's a dishonest response.
Could only be explained by being a cheater.
I have seen the endless dodges in my own logs with my own eyes.
I have seen the infinite ultimate comets.
I have seen the climbing up walls.
I have seen the teleporting through keep doors.
I've seen the damage I have done with others shrugged off.
I have seen 5 attacks in less than a second.
And so has anyone who has spent even a small amount of time on Haderus in the last few weeks.
Saying it is extremely rare is pure doggy do, and you know it if you have played on Haderus.
The campaign is cheat central.
The liars only damage the game further.
I hope you're happy when the PvP population dwindles to nothing but cheaters.
Have fun together.
It's already moved far in that direction recently.Edited by Thrasher91604 on June 23, 2016 1:16AM0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭As much as I don't agree with Thrasher that the problem is widespread, you can't deny some serious BS going on.
Like the guy who ate a full 30 chained meteors?
I don't think he was hacking as much as the game is broken, and his build takes advantage of some busted mechanic/stack/skill/buff/drink/CP/gearset combo that allows that kind of garbage.
When you see one guy do a 10v1 where ten GOOD people are wailing on him and he survives for 15 minutes before dying? It's an issue with the game mechanics. He's playing fair, the skills and buffs are just broken. You'll note that he also isn't one-shotting anyone either.
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