Crafting Siege Equipment

imnotanother · June 2016

I would like to see a new skill line added to crafting.

- it should require the crafter to be level 50 in black smithing, wood working, and clothing.
- Would have to craft individual parts for the weapon ( frame, ropes, wheels, etc)
- Then parts would be assembled using new skill line.

What do you think?
I feel like it would give crafters more things to do, better commissions, and add some variety to PvP.

Defilted · June 2016

I like it

Rohamad_Ali · June 2016

This was suggested a long time ago . Forward camps , siege , oil pots , Rams all crafted . While I like making crafters more intertwined with the PvP community , many just didn't want to hassle with it .

imnotanother · June 2016

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

This was suggested a long time ago . Forward camps , siege , oil pots , Rams all crafted . While I like making crafters more intertwined with the PvP community , many just didn't want to hassle with it .

What a shame.

I feel like it would make the PVP store fronts more vital and offer more gold sinks into the game.

imnotanother · June 2016

Defilted wrote: »

I like it

It would be a nice change to see multiple styled trebuchets hurling some stones.

Robbmrp · June 2016

Other than a new skill line I like the idea. If a laborer is maxed in all three of those area's they should be able to make the siege weapons as well.

It's doubtful that Zenimax would take this route tho as it would eliminate the need to buy them from Cyro Vendors as an AP sink.

Now if they added in new types of siege not available in those vendors, then that would be pretty cool.

imnotanother · June 2016

Robbmrp wrote: »

Other than a new skill line I like the idea. If a laborer is maxed in all three of those area's they should be able to make the siege weapons as well.

It's doubtful that Zenimax would take this route tho as it would eliminate the need to buy them from Cyro Vendors as an AP sink.

Now if they added in new types of siege not available in those vendors, then that would be pretty cool.

You bring up some valid points.
I see what you mean by AP sink but with Impenetrable pieces being sold on the weekends now, people will definitely being going through it much quicker.

Maybe sell the certain types of equipment needed to craft the weapons.

I also feel that they should vary in the amount of damage they deal, giving more incentive to craft/buy these weapons.

Egonieser · June 2016

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

This was suggested a long time ago . Forward camps , siege , oil pots , Rams all crafted . While I like making crafters more intertwined with the PvP community , many just didn't want to hassle with it .

Then they can just go to the siege merchant and buy it like always.
Don't underestimate crafting, especially in PvP. I'm yet to meet a PvP player who doesn't craft for the benefit of PvP (be it potions, glyphs, new gear) siege weapons would be no exception, if it provides bonuses to killing players, people will jump at the bit to make it, trust me.

It's definitely more enticing than grinding dungeons for gear and monster sets.

SolarCat02 · June 2016

I would totally craft siege equipment if I could.
I really like this idea.

imnotanother · June 2016

Egonieser wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

This was suggested a long time ago . Forward camps , siege , oil pots , Rams all crafted . While I like making crafters more intertwined with the PvP community , many just didn't want to hassle with it .

Then they can just go to the siege merchant and buy it like always.
Don't underestimate crafting, especially in PvP. I'm yet to meet a PvP player who doesn't craft for the benefit of PvP (be it potions, glyphs, new gear) siege weapons would be no exception, if it provides bonuses to killing players, people will jump at the bit to make it, trust me.

It's definitely more enticing than grinding dungeons for gear and monster sets.

Exactly.
I am a crafter, it is what I like to do. I would really like to be able to craft some beautiful war machine the comes and pulverizes a keep wall...leaving all the spectators wanting one of their own.

I would be making huge wooden horses and leaving them as gifts for enemy keeps lol

imnotanother · June 2016

SolarCat02 wrote: »

I would totally craft siege equipment if I could.
I really like this idea.

It would make prices of all crafting materials to increase in value, add many more items to the economy, and encourage players to leveling crafting.

Robbmrp · June 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

Other than a new skill line I like the idea. If a laborer is maxed in all three of those area's they should be able to make the siege weapons as well.

It's doubtful that Zenimax would take this route tho as it would eliminate the need to buy them from Cyro Vendors as an AP sink.

Now if they added in new types of siege not available in those vendors, then that would be pretty cool.

You bring up some valid points.
I see what you mean by AP sink but with Impenetrable pieces being sold on the weekends now, people will definitely being going through it much quicker.

Maybe sell the certain types of equipment needed to craft the weapons.

I also feel that they should vary in the amount of damage they deal, giving more incentive to craft/buy these weapons.

That's only a couple hundred k AP though. Some people are earning that in a day. If the items weren't all BoP then more people would buy more than one of it.

What we really need are other siege equipment that could be made by crafters. Like siege towers, ladders or other things like that. If we could create a siege tower/ladder that would let a couple people onto a wall to disrupt the defense of the keep it would add a new dynamic to these fights. Then maybe people wouldn't be so keen to use the gap closer exploits. When enemies get into a keep that's being sieged, it really disrupts the defense of it and make it a much more challenging fight. People shouldn't be able to fly up to where your at but they should be able get there via ladder or siege tower. These would require people to move them to the wall the same as a ram. A siege tower would require 6 people to move it and a ladder 2-4. There could be 2 lengths of ladders also, one for outer keep walls and one for outposts.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler is there any chance that we will be getting these kinds of things in the future?

imnotanother · June 2016

Robbmrp wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

Robbmrp wrote: »

Other than a new skill line I like the idea. If a laborer is maxed in all three of those area's they should be able to make the siege weapons as well.

It's doubtful that Zenimax would take this route tho as it would eliminate the need to buy them from Cyro Vendors as an AP sink.

Now if they added in new types of siege not available in those vendors, then that would be pretty cool.

You bring up some valid points.
I see what you mean by AP sink but with Impenetrable pieces being sold on the weekends now, people will definitely being going through it much quicker.

Maybe sell the certain types of equipment needed to craft the weapons.

I also feel that they should vary in the amount of damage they deal, giving more incentive to craft/buy these weapons.

That's only a couple hundred k AP though. Some people are earning that in a day. If the items weren't all BoP then more people would buy more than one of it.

What we really need are other siege equipment that could be made by crafters. Like siege towers, ladders or other things like that. If we could create a siege tower/ladder that would let a couple people onto a wall to disrupt the defense of the keep it would add a new dynamic to these fights. Then maybe people wouldn't be so keen to use the gap closer exploits. When enemies get into a keep that's being sieged, it really disrupts the defense of it and make it a much more challenging fight. People shouldn't be able to fly up to where your at but they should be able get there via ladder or siege tower. These would require people to move them to the wall the same as a ram. A siege tower would require 6 people to move it and a ladder 2-4. There could be 2 lengths of ladders also, one for outer keep walls and one for outposts.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler is there any chance that we will be getting these kinds of things in the future?

Great ideas! I've always felt like towers and ladders have been missing since the start.

imnotanother · June 2016

I like the idea of making legendary battering rams, catapults, etc. that would be a much greater loss if you were to have it burned/destroyed.