Trading guild QQ is almost as good as pvp QQ. Get your popcorn ready boys! We even have some leg mage flavor in here.

Baranthus wrote: »

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

Why Craglorn.... because it is the top level writ hand in area.

Ummm - that would be Orsinium...

Yes, if you have access to it.

A few points.

Craglorn EU is very busy trading spot and has most of the top guilds front row.

For those people who always supported the trade guild system as a more level playing field way to trade have no clue what really goes on.

I am a trade guild leader EU and I can tell you the amount of espionage, rivalry and alliances that go on rival GOT. Trade guild leaders talk to each other all the time. All the best spots are controlled by alliances and we constantly share information and attack our rivals. The amount of work that Guild leaders have to put in to trade guilds is huge.

The current system can just as easily break a guild as make one. Many guilds go down, its all very stressful for the GMs.

The entire system depnds on the energy of Trade Guild Leaders and trade guilds. The pressure to sell creates a highly competitive environment.

The devs do little to help the situation and IMHO trader locations need a complete rethink.

At the moment the bidding system and relatively poor locations of most trading spots supports intrigue, alliances, rivalry and stifles smaller guilds.

The devs need a wake-up call on this.

snejremllov wrote: »

Trading guild QQ is almost as good as pvp QQ. Get your popcorn ready boys! We even have some leg mage flavor in here.

Eliran wrote: »

When ever I want to buy something EXPENSIVE/motifs and so on.

99% of the times, one of the traders in Craglorn has it and always at far better price than the Wayrest traders.

So far, Guild Stores are faction based and are not shared.

Just you wait till the real war start once all factions will be united apart from Cyrodiil.

Guild stores are not faction based on PC, members are multi-faction and any faction can buy from any guild with a trader

I'm not a GM, or even a great trader.
I'm always surprised to see my guild rank as "Legendary Trader", but that comes from consistently keeping my slots full for a long time I guess.

My two cents worth as a 'shopper' --
When I need something -
No 1 Check my own Guild in the bank. If they do not have what I need -
No 2 Check the traders in Rawl'kha [ generally wince at the prices and lack of variety ]
No 3 Go to Craglorn - everything is familiar and I feel comfortable mostly I find what I need at a price I am prepared to pay
then ......
Try Mournhold, Wayrest, Eldenroot and Wrothgar in that order.

Praeficere wrote: »

Trading guilds on EU PC really are a ***. GMs sending really pathetic, childish threats. Aggressively "poaching". Bullying out smaller guilds who are have just started to find their feet by paying proxy guilds to take their spots.

Really is something we need to have a serious talk about as a community, not in this thread however as I'm assuming it will be closed soon.

You could say it's them doing the best for their guild, and it probably is. If only you could read what they say behind guild chat, you'd lose respect for a lot of them.

As a leader, I'd still prefer trade guilds to be removed for a non-player lead auction house. But it never will, and this is how the community is and will always be.

I have tried several trading guilds at several good locvations and for me there is one that stands above the rest because it always has a trader an always has had the same trader. It might be a trader in Rawl Kha but imo Handelsgilde is the best and Rawl Kha is the spot i go to first when i need something:)

I do enjoy the system that makes guilds compete for best traders and high selling members. I just hope that both guilds will get a spot somewhere bcs theyre both good trading guilds.

xblackroxe wrote: »

Well the best traders are in craglorn. And there is no way wayrest makes more money.

I sell items way quicker and more often in Wayrest and Mournhould, than I do in Crag. Maybe Mourn could be placed 3rd, but still. Even if the elite traders are there. Could be just me though.

Hahahhahahahahahah ha... this thread... my god... hahaha...
Time for popcorn boys!

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Sophieous wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Well everybody who wants to trade gos there sooo..
And how exactly is Rawl'ka a better place?

Rawl'ka gets 10 times the people than Crag, cus of its layout. Always crowded. I am on EU and still question why Crag is the top spot. Wayrest seems to be selling the most tho.

Because back when Craglorn was the only new content for over half a year Craglorn got way more traffic and when the traders were introduced those were the most coveted spots and now it has just stayed that way out of habit because all the players who actually use traders know that the best ones are in Craglorn and expect it. If they don't find their usual trading guild in Craglorn they won't start running around the world in search of it, they will just pick the one next to it.

Craglorn has hands down the best merchandise of all zones, even if the other zones are more traversed.

and way back when it was always House Zar that was the top trading guild there with the best spot week after week...and where are they now?

due to all this sort of back-stabbing between guilds it has ceased to be..lets see if we can make those other guilds crash and burn too

House Zar was disbanded due I abandoned game and didn't found anyone serious enough to give leading of whole EU economy system. House Zar was top 1 trading guild of EU since first day of traders launch patch, Craglorn become so popular on EU exactly cuz of that, from first day till end we was there. Even after year of House Zar disbanding people still contacting me, asking advises and making me to keep some influence there. When i left game, besides i give away each member compensation (overally ~100M gold), I also spent on newbie players like ~100M gold to make game easier for them and left some legacy as memory there, thats why whole EU still remember House Zar.

Also many people asking me to rebuild House Zar, i don't plan it atm tho since very busy in RL with work and other staff, also cuz of alot in-game bags/lags and so on.

I also received some replies that House Zar was disbanded due such "wars". Idk how those who lied was sure that any of them was able to win guild with billions of in-game gold. All House Zar enemies was 1) banned 2) left game due they was in EU blacklist between all alliances.

Each week House Zar bids was 4-9M gold (max bid for NPC trader year ago was 9.999.999 which i was keeping to keep guild safe) and we was able to keep such bids for years without problems. So no need to say that House Zar was disbanded due "wars", it was disbanded personally cuz of me, too much i was loving House Zar and it's members to let them die slowly under leading of non-experienced economy leader.

Divad Zarn wrote: »

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Sophieous wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Well everybody who wants to trade gos there sooo..
And how exactly is Rawl'ka a better place?

Rawl'ka gets 10 times the people than Crag, cus of its layout. Always crowded. I am on EU and still question why Crag is the top spot. Wayrest seems to be selling the most tho.

Because back when Craglorn was the only new content for over half a year Craglorn got way more traffic and when the traders were introduced those were the most coveted spots and now it has just stayed that way out of habit because all the players who actually use traders know that the best ones are in Craglorn and expect it. If they don't find their usual trading guild in Craglorn they won't start running around the world in search of it, they will just pick the one next to it.

Craglorn has hands down the best merchandise of all zones, even if the other zones are more traversed.

and way back when it was always House Zar that was the top trading guild there with the best spot week after week...and where are they now?

due to all this sort of back-stabbing between guilds it has ceased to be..lets see if we can make those other guilds crash and burn too

House Zar was disbanded due I abandoned game and didn't found anyone serious enough to give leading of whole EU economy system. House Zar was top 1 trading guild of EU since first day of traders launch patch, Craglorn become so popular on EU exactly cuz of that, from first day till end we was there. Even after year of House Zar disbanding people still contacting me, asking advises and making me to keep some influence there. When i left game, besides i give away each member compensation (overally ~100M gold), I also spent on newbie players like ~100M gold to make game easier for them and left some legacy as memory there, thats why whole EU still remember House Zar.

Also many people asking me to rebuild House Zar, i don't plan it atm tho since very busy in RL with work and other staff, also cuz of alot in-game bags/lags and so on.

I also received some replies that House Zar was disbanded due such "wars". Idk how those who lied was sure that any of them was able to win guild with billions of in-game gold. All House Zar enemies was 1) banned 2) left game due they was in EU blacklist between all alliances.

Each week House Zar bids was 4-9M gold (max bid for NPC trader year ago was 9.999.999 which i was keeping to keep guild safe) and we was able to keep such bids for years without problems. So no need to say that House Zar was disbanded due "wars", it was disbanded personally cuz of me, too much i was loving House Zar and it's members to let them die slowly under leading of non-experienced economy leader.

good to see you mate!

i can only imagine, how crowded Rawlkha will become with Tamriel One