Gutted stam-blade

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

Boradordin wrote: »

I never had the biggest, baddesr stam-blade but I was comfortable with it. The latest, greatest release on the PS4, The Dark Brotherhood, took a decent toon and made it worse.

Why? The main reason appears to be the gutting of Flawless Dawbreaker. In lieu of 8% wepon damage it now does only 2% damage. In my case it dropped my weapon damage in excess of 200 points. The only possible reason for this would seem to be that those playing vampires went crying to Daddy ZOS. They nerfed vampires once before to become supreme then adjusted stamina-based characters to make them somewhat competitive. Now it has swung the other way with vampires yet again in the ascendancy.

To make matters worse Rapid Strikes lost 25% of its damage potential, dropping from 1,600+ damage (X five) to 1,200+ (X five). Some of this is due to the aforementioned change to Flawless Dawbreaker, additional reduction in damage is Rapid Strikes.

To further degrade a stamina-based character Wrecking Blow became a useless skill. In other words, save yourself the two skill points. Agreed, the damage is still respectable, but removing the stun ability has ruined the skill. This came about because neophytes, who should not have been in Cyrodil in the first place, went crying yet again to Daddy ZOS. What in Molag Bals world is a level 30 character doing in Cyrodil anyhow! If you are going to reme a stun from the Two-Haned skill line, remove stun from all the weapon skill lines. If you have not already done so.

I could likely purchase or craft new gold CP 160 gear to the tune of half a million gold to try and repair ZOS's morphs. This happened three months ago. But then why do so if Daddy ZOS is going to change the rules yet again in three months!

Thank you yet again ZOS for taking a decent concept of a game and "teweaking" it to be mundane in the endless moronic "fixes" to satisfy the children. A job well done.

A Disillusioned Disgruntled Player on the PS4

Actually it's this post that's coming off childish. I play as a loyal vampire, and speak out often to the cause of vampire justice. So needless to say, I was none to happy when my kind got nerfed, big time. The difference between us is that I used my imagination and found a way around the obstacle.

Zen is not going to hold your hand to help you put the puzzle pieces together, to that uber-powerful PC you want. But make no mistake about it ... the pieces are there. Not every workable angle is going to be obvious. Part of the reason why many complain about the slightest change to their builds, is because most come with that cookie-cutter mentality to making a character. Heavy armor should tank, medium should dps, and light should heal. If that's how you're approaching it, you're going to fail every time ... at least in this game.

There is a reason why some skills offer the same buffs ... Choose one and be done with it. If you can't find something to make the best of the new changes then it's you that's short-sighted, and even perhaps having a tantrum like a child.

P.S. If you need wrecking blow that bad to make your build work, you probably have no real skill, because that ability coupled with Dawnbreaker was truly OP; and you know it, otherwise you wouldn't be protesting it's nerf so adamantly.

Boradordin · June 2016

Snide off-topic ccomments aside, every one is missing the post purpose.

1) Why on the PC does Flawless Dawnbreaker get the buff, with all the 2-handed passives, of 8% weapon damage yet consoles get 5% with the same passives? If I am to believe what I read by a poster to this thread, PC players get an additional 3% bonus for having another Fighter's Guild skill slotted. This also does not occur on the console.

2) Why does Rapid Strikes do 25% less damage? A minor shift is acceptable. And before a Weisenheimer comments on Champion Points, they were written down before Dark Brotherhood and reentered exactly the same.

As for the young person making the uneducated comment about Wrecking Blow you're a day late and a dollar short to the conversation. It has already been put to bed. Either be constructive or stay on the porch. I don't need Wrecking Blow and seldom use it as it is too slow for my prefernces. I leave it to former spammers to cry over for the loss of the stun. I made an obvservation, someone pointed out what had occured.

Now either answer the two questions above or don't comment. As to which class is better than the other that is a question best left to the gods. No two people will ever agree as we each play the game in the manner we prefer. Anyone with any sensibility would be best served by letting the dead dog lie buried in it's grave.

acw37162 · June 2016

The tooltip will never say 8% ever agin.

The tooltip will say you will get 3% passively.

Change your morphs to smiting, it's practically free at the moment you will loose 5.

Change you ultimate completely to anything not Dawnbreaker.

Write your damage numbers down, grab you calculator, post the results of it s something they need to fix.

My flawless dawnbreaker on PS4 is giving my 8 % boost.

The_Rooster24 · June 2016

Boradordin wrote: »

I never had the biggest, baddesr stam-blade but I was comfortable with it. The latest, greatest release on the PS4, The Dark Brotherhood, took a decent toon and made it worse.

Why? The main reason appears to be the gutting of Flawless Dawbreaker. In lieu of 8% wepon damage it now does only 2% damage. In my case it dropped my weapon damage in excess of 200 points. The only possible reason for this would seem to be that those playing vampires went crying to Daddy ZOS. They nerfed vampires once before to become supreme then adjusted stamina-based characters to make them somewhat competitive. Now it has swung the other way with vampires yet again in the ascendancy.

To make matters worse Rapid Strikes lost 25% of its damage potential, dropping from 1,600+ damage (X five) to 1,200+ (X five). Some of this is due to the aforementioned change to Flawless Dawbreaker, additional reduction in damage is Rapid Strikes.

To further degrade a stamina-based character Wrecking Blow became a useless skill. In other words, save yourself the two skill points. Agreed, the damage is still respectable, but removing the stun ability has ruined the skill. This came about because neophytes, who should not have been in Cyrodil in the first place, went crying yet again to Daddy ZOS. What in Molag Bals world is a level 30 character doing in Cyrodil anyhow! If you are going to reme a stun from the Two-Haned skill line, remove stun from all the weapon skill lines. If you have not already done so.

I could likely purchase or craft new gold CP 160 gear to the tune of half a million gold to try and repair ZOS's morphs. This happened three months ago. But then why do so if Daddy ZOS is going to change the rules yet again in three months!

Thank you yet again ZOS for taking a decent concept of a game and "teweaking" it to be mundane in the endless moronic "fixes" to satisfy the children. A job well done.

A Disillusioned Disgruntled Player on the PS4

You clearly do not read sir. Stam is way stronger this patch. Please read before posting.

Boradordin · June 2016

Rooster, perhaps on the PC and if so that is welome news and I hope it makes it to the console soon. Having lost 200+ points of weapon damage, which thus affects skill damage, I just don't see it.

acw37162, thank you for suggesting a possible solution.

Comments 1 & 2. My tooltips says: "While slotted, your weapon damage is inreased by 5%." I have all but the last passive in the Fighter's Guild skill line.

Comment 3. I may shortly as a reset will happen as my blacksmithing research is nearly completed. I want to recover the four skill points. Money is not the issue. It is the chore in writing everything down and reentering it.

Comments 4 - 6. Something odd is going on. As I stated earlier, my Character screen WD decreased some 200+ points. That damage is affecred by FB. I cannot see 3% equating to over 200 points of wep damage. Same gear as prior to the DLC so that is not it. My 2 swords have Precise which would not affect WD in the Character screen. Prior to the DLC my wep damage was mid-3800, now it is just below 3600. I've to discover the formula for calculating dual-wield damage.

With a non-FB ultimate slotted Rapid Strikes causes 1077 damage. Multiply that times 105% and Rapid Strikes with FB should be 1130 or 1131. With FB slotted RS does 1120. Therefore there is a problem. I'm not even getting the 5%, let alone 8% as people are stating I should have.

In closing, thank you Rooster and acw37162 for your constructive comments. The rest of you, nuff said before you sink into the well of despairity from which you crawled. Your comments in the main show the lack of education permeating socety today. Either that or a lack of proper parental supervision at some point in your youth. Or was that last week?

Punn · June 2016

Lol, seriously I'm laughing out loud right now. Stamina nightblade far surpasses any other class in the game right now. If you think it was gutted you have a serious build issue. The buff to Incap. Strikes makes this the BEST ulti in the game, people are hitting 17k incaps in pvp on Xbox na. Surprise attack is still the Hardest hitting instant Dps Skill the game. They Buffed poison injection to the point where its its almost breaking the game. you have a special made set with vice cannon that applies a 20k dot to some one(it even goes through wings). If any thing at all stamina nightblade needs a nerf big time.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · June 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

Stam nightblade, one of the strongest classes already, got like 6 or 7 really good buffs.

The only single nerf a stam Nb for was ambush doing like 3.5% less. Compared to what you gained, it's nothing.

What planet are you on OP?

that is only a nerf to magica NB. seeing that the stam versions of skills now do damage that gets buffed by stamina cp ambush should be doing like 21.5% MORE damage (after the broad 3.5% reduction) with 100 cp in the right spot.... 3.5% nerf LOL

Valrien · June 2016

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Stam nightblade, one of the strongest classes already, got like 6 or 7 really good buffs.

The only single nerf a stam Nb for was ambush doing like 3.5% less. Compared to what you gained, it's nothing.

What planet are you on OP?

that is only a nerf to magica NB. seeing that the stam versions of skills now do damage that gets buffed by stamina cp ambush should be doing like 21.5% MORE damage (after the broad 3.5% reduction) with 100 cp in the right spot.... 3.5% nerf LOL

Wasn't Ambush always Physical?

The_Rooster24 · June 2016

Boradordin wrote: »

Rooster, perhaps on the PC and if so that is welome news and I hope it makes it to the console soon. Having lost 200+ points of weapon damage, which thus affects skill damage, I just don't see it.

acw37162, thank you for suggesting a possible solution.

Comments 1 & 2. My tooltips says: "While slotted, your weapon damage is inreased by 5%." I have all but the last passive in the Fighter's Guild skill line.

Comment 3. I may shortly as a reset will happen as my blacksmithing research is nearly completed. I want to recover the four skill points. Money is not the issue. It is the chore in writing everything down and reentering it.

Comments 4 - 6. Something odd is going on. As I stated earlier, my Character screen WD decreased some 200+ points. That damage is affecred by FB. I cannot see 3% equating to over 200 points of wep damage. Same gear as prior to the DLC so that is not it. My 2 swords have Precise which would not affect WD in the Character screen. Prior to the DLC my wep damage was mid-3800, now it is just below 3600. I've to discover the formula for calculating dual-wield damage.

With a non-FB ultimate slotted Rapid Strikes causes 1077 damage. Multiply that times 105% and Rapid Strikes with FB should be 1130 or 1131. With FB slotted RS does 1120. Therefore there is a problem. I'm not even getting the 5%, let alone 8% as people are stating I should have.

In closing, thank you Rooster and acw37162 for your constructive comments. The rest of you, nuff said before you sink into the well of despairity from which you crawled. Your comments in the main show the lack of education permeating socety today. Either that or a lack of proper parental supervision at some point in your youth. Or was that last week?

Yo may have less weapon dmg but all of the abilities you listed such as rapid strikes and dawn breaker you actually get more dmg from them now then in thieves guild. Once again read the fighters guild passive you 5 % passively from dawn breaker alone and just for having a fighters guild ability ( that includes dawn breaker ) you get an additional 3% bring the grand total to 8%. And if you put any other fighters guild ability on your bar you will get an additional 3%. As for rapid strikes yes the dmg was deceased but the cast time got cut in half the same can not be said for the dmg. While it was lowered the dmg isn't 50% lower. That means you can almost cast 2 in the time it took you to cast 1 effectively rasping the overall dmg. Please read before you post.

The_Rooster24 · June 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Stam nightblade, one of the strongest classes already, got like 6 or 7 really good buffs.

I agree with the buff part but I wouldnt say its one of the strongest unless youre talking about pvp ganking. Definitely not the weakest but certainly nowhere close to stam DKs.

Stam nb is probably the closest to Stam dk at this point in time. Problem is its very hard to be very good at it.

kadar · June 2016

@Boradordin , referring to your OP:

1) Like others have pointed out, Flawless Dawnbreaker now grats 5% weapon damage for slotting it. The new Fighters guild passive grants 3% weapon damage per ability slotted. So using Flawless grants you 8% (5+3%) wpn dmg.

2) Rapid Strikes lost some damage, but that was changed because the greatly lowered the cast time. Rapid Strikes now deals more damage overall because of how fast you can now weave the skill. It has been shown (especially with Maelstrom daggers) to outperform Surprise Attack from a pure DPS standpoint.

3) Wrecking blow is certainly not a useless skill. Imo, the empower gained from using that morph is more valuable than the knockcback that Dizzying Swing provides. There are plenty of other ways to get that CC off (fear).

4) Overall I believe Stamblade is stronger this patch. Many quality of life changes were added, helping to bring Stam in line with Magicka (we now have Ults that scale with our CP, too).

Brrrofski · June 2016

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Stam nightblade, one of the strongest classes already, got like 6 or 7 really good buffs.

The only single nerf a stam Nb for was ambush doing like 3.5% less. Compared to what you gained, it's nothing.

What planet are you on OP?

that is only a nerf to magica NB. seeing that the stam versions of skills now do damage that gets buffed by stamina cp ambush should be doing like 21.5% MORE damage (after the broad 3.5% reduction) with 100 cp in the right spot.... 3.5% nerf LOL

Ambush was already physical. So a slight (very slight nerf). Nothing compared to what was buffed though.

Shader_Shibes · June 2016

Triipzzz · June 2016

Is this a joke? If you have any idea how to animation cancel with surprise attack, poison injection, heavy attacks and incapacitating strike buff or whatever. You will know this just got the biggest buff of its life and is probably the most OP class in pvp at the moment.

Hell, you can even ambush on to keep walls if you want.

Boradordin · June 2016

Let's try this again.

Rapid Strikes with no Fighter's Guild skills slotted does 1061 wep damage. So, with FB slotted (1061 x 105%) my wep damage should be 1114. My actual wep damage for RS with FB is 1103. I'm missing 11 points worth of damage. It appears to be 4% (1061 x 104% = 1103). In other words 4%, not 5%.

Rapid Strikes with a base of 1061 and Camo Hunter slotted should do 1092 wep damage (1061 x 103%). RS with Camo slotted does 1077, equating to 1.5% (1061 x 101.5% = 1077). That is a difference of 15 points.

With FB and Camo slotted the formula would be 1061 + (1061 x 5%) + (1061 x 3%) = 1061 + 53 + 32 = 1145. My actual RS damage is 1120, a difference of 25 points.

Before a Weisenheimer chimes in, yes 11 plus 15 does not equal 25. There is some decimal point rounding off occurring.

I tested the above with a stamina Dragon Knight, a stamina Templar and another stamina Night Blade on the PS4 console. None of the other toons are mine. In each case it was 4% for FB and 1.5% for any other FG skill, not 5% and 3% as it should be.

Can it be possible that there is a difference between consoles and the PC? The math proves my point as it pertains to the PS4. Perhaps some players on the PC and the XBox could their numbers so ZOS can fix this. I despise being the one correcting mistakes. Or at least documenting them.

Keep_Door · June 2016

lol this is embarrassing stam NB has never been stronger in my opinion.

what the honest holy hell is op smoking

Boradordin · June 2016

Keep_Door wrote: »

lol this is embarrassing stam NB has never been stronger in my opinion.

what the honest holy hell is op smoking

Read the thread. If you're on a console do the math. If you're on the PC, congratulations as you have not lost a portion of your damage.

The scope of this posting has nothing to do with which class is stronger than another. It has to do with a glitch on the PS4 involving the Fighter's Guild skill line..

holosoul · June 2016

I don't play console but it sounds like you just didn't level the skill OP

holosoul · June 2016

also flurry got buffed, you can cast it 2x faster

Toc de Malsvi · June 2016

Boradordin wrote: »

Let's try this again.

Rapid Strikes with no Fighter's Guild skills slotted does 1061 wep damage. So, with FB slotted (1061 x 105%) my wep damage should be 1114. My actual wep damage for RS with FB is 1103. I'm missing 11 points worth of damage. It appears to be 4% (1061 x 104% = 1103). In other words 4%, not 5%.

Rapid Strikes with a base of 1061 and Camo Hunter slotted should do 1092 wep damage (1061 x 103%). RS with Camo slotted does 1077, equating to 1.5% (1061 x 101.5% = 1077). That is a difference of 15 points.

With FB and Camo slotted the formula would be 1061 + (1061 x 5%) + (1061 x 3%) = 1061 + 53 + 32 = 1145. My actual RS damage is 1120, a difference of 25 points.

Before a Weisenheimer chimes in, yes 11 plus 15 does not equal 25. There is some decimal point rounding off occurring.

I tested the above with a stamina Dragon Knight, a stamina Templar and another stamina Night Blade on the PS4 console. None of the other toons are mine. In each case it was 4% for FB and 1.5% for any other FG skill, not 5% and 3% as it should be.

Can it be possible that there is a difference between consoles and the PC? The math proves my point as it pertains to the PS4. Perhaps some players on the PC and the XBox could their numbers so ZOS can fix this. I despise being the one correcting mistakes. Or at least documenting them.

You clearly are not comprehending what is going on here.

When tooltip's state: weapon damage, they are not talking about the damage of a particular skill like Snipe, WB, or Rapid Strikes but rather the base weapon damage shown on your character stat sheet that determines how much your heavy and light attacks will hit for and is part of a calculation for your stamina skills output value.

First off the equation for the damage of skills is not (base damage times weapon damage + % increases) you do not simply get a 103% modifier for increasing your weapon damage. Weapon damage is only part of the equation for a independent skills damage. Skill's like Rapid Strikes scale from their base damage, they scale with: Maximum Stamina, Weapon Critical rating, Weapon Damage rating, and then any other direct damage boosts like Minor berserk.

I don't know the exact formula that ZOS uses for their calculations but I know that increasing your weapon damage by 3% will not increase your skills output by 3%. It is more directly noticeable if you look at the weapon damage listed on your character stat sheet. This also uses a formula with gear trait, passive bonus', active bonus', and Mundus, so it might not be exactly 3% depending on how its calculated and what is added in before they increase it by 3%.

Flawless Dawnbreaker gives 5%, the tool tip will only ever say 5% because that's the only buff that the skill itself gives from being slotted. Fighters guild passives when maxed give 3% per FG skills slotted, so by slotting Flawless Dawnbreaker you get 5% from the skills passive and 3% from the FG skill line passive. Any more FG skills slotted will give another 3% more.

Many players upon logging in for the first time with Dark Brotherhood had their mundus stones reset, missing 200 weapon damage sounds like you had the warrior mundus and it was reset. Another possibility is that you accidentally went from having 5 pieces medium to having only 4 and lost the Medium armor passive that boosts weapon damage by 12%.

Increasing your maximum stamina will increase your stamina skill damage scaling and enable you to use more abilities before running out, it will not increase your weapon damage and thus will not increase your heavy and light attacks.

Increasing your weapon damage will increase your stamina skill damage scaling and will increase your heavy and light attack damage, it will not give you more stamina with which to use abilities/skills.

Passives that increase things like weapon/spell damage only increase part of the formula from which skill scale from, they do not increase the output of the skill directly.

Being snarky about a game that you clearly do not understand is a good way to get ridiculed and insulted on the forums. Most will not even attempt to explain it, optioning rather to deride you.

Valen_Byte · June 2016

Stam NB is the easy button of ESO lol If you are having trouble, its on your end. You just arent doing it right : ))

yiasemi · June 2016

Flawless jawbreaker...

Vaoh · June 2016

I'm surprised that people are confused by the passive Weapon Damage achievable from the Fighters Guild skill line. I wrote this out so there can be no confusion regarding this anymore.

• Passive Weapon Damage from the Fighters Guild Ultimate Skill Dawnbreaker:

Unmorphed
Dawnbreaker I - 0% WD
Dawnbreaker II - 0% WD
Dawnbreaker III - 0% WD
Dawnbreaker IV - 0% WD

Morph 1: Provides Passive Weapon Damage while slotted.
Flawless Dawnbreaker I - 2% WD
Flawless Dawnbreaker II - 3% WD
Flawless Dawnbreaker III - 4% WD
Flawless Dawnbreaker IV - 5% WD

Morph 2: Increased Damage. Knocks down enemies.
Dawnbreaker of Smiting I - 0% WD
Dawnbreaker of Smiting II - 0% WD
Dawnbreaker of Smiting III - 0% WD
Dawnbreaker of Smiting IV - 0% WD

• Passive Weapon Damage from the Fighter's Guild Passive Skill Slayer:

Slayer I - 1% WD per Fighter Guild Skill slotted
Slayer II - 2% WD per Fighter Guild Skill slotted
Slayer III - 3% WD per Fighter Guild Skill slotted

What this means:
~ You will achieve 8% passive weapon damage from having Flawless Dawnbreaker Rank IV slotted.
~ You will achieve 5% passive weapon damage from having Flawless Dawnbreaker Rank I slotted.
~ You will achieve 3% passive weapon damage from having Dawnbreaker OR Dawnbreaker of Smiting slotted, regardless of Rank.

I hope this is clear now for those who didn't understand how this worked!

Mettaricana · June 2016

I'm not a stamblade but my stamsorc hits like a sharknado onfire moving through a field of brittle dry toilet paper near a oil field.

I use dawn breaker its now like a really fast to build up one shot kill skill rather than slowly eating away at health it just goes off like a point blank shotgun blast.

Alcast · June 2016

Boradordin wrote: »

I never had the biggest, baddesr stam-blade but I was comfortable with it. The latest, greatest release on the PS4, The Dark Brotherhood, took a decent toon and made it worse.

Why? The main reason appears to be the gutting of Flawless Dawbreaker. In lieu of 8% wepon damage it now does only 2% damage. In my case it dropped my weapon damage in excess of 200 points. The only possible reason for this would seem to be that those playing vampires went crying to Daddy ZOS. They nerfed vampires once before to become supreme then adjusted stamina-based characters to make them somewhat competitive. Now it has swung the other way with vampires yet again in the ascendancy.

To make matters worse Rapid Strikes lost 25% of its damage potential, dropping from 1,600+ damage (X five) to 1,200+ (X five). Some of this is due to the aforementioned change to Flawless Dawbreaker, additional reduction in damage is Rapid Strikes.

To further degrade a stamina-based character Wrecking Blow became a useless skill. In other words, save yourself the two skill points. Agreed, the damage is still respectable, but removing the stun ability has ruined the skill. This came about because neophytes, who should not have been in Cyrodil in the first place, went crying yet again to Daddy ZOS. What in Molag Bals world is a level 30 character doing in Cyrodil anyhow! If you are going to reme a stun from the Two-Haned skill line, remove stun from all the weapon skill lines. If you have not already done so.

I could likely purchase or craft new gold CP 160 gear to the tune of half a million gold to try and repair ZOS's morphs. This happened three months ago. But then why do so if Daddy ZOS is going to change the rules yet again in three months!

Thank you yet again ZOS for taking a decent concept of a game and "teweaking" it to be mundane in the endless moronic "fixes" to satisfy the children. A job well done.

A Disillusioned Disgruntled Player on the PS4

Everything you said is basically the opposite right now. Stamblades are *** OP now in both PvE and PvP

Amdar_Godkiller · June 2016

(Weapon Damage(10.5)+Max Stamina)(Skill coefficient) ~ tooltip damage

The 8% bonus only increases weapon damage, but assuming your weapon damage is roughly 9% the size of your
max Stamina pool, your tooltip damage should increase by around 4% when slotting FD, and 1.5% for slotting
other FG skills.

Lava_Croft · June 2016

OP calls StamBlade gutted.

OP has a sense of humour.

khele23eb17_ESO · June 2016

Alcast wrote: »

Boradordin wrote: »

I never had the biggest, baddesr stam-blade but I was comfortable with it. The latest, greatest release on the PS4, The Dark Brotherhood, took a decent toon and made it worse.

Why? The main reason appears to be the gutting of Flawless Dawbreaker. In lieu of 8% wepon damage it now does only 2% damage. In my case it dropped my weapon damage in excess of 200 points. The only possible reason for this would seem to be that those playing vampires went crying to Daddy ZOS. They nerfed vampires once before to become supreme then adjusted stamina-based characters to make them somewhat competitive. Now it has swung the other way with vampires yet again in the ascendancy.

To make matters worse Rapid Strikes lost 25% of its damage potential, dropping from 1,600+ damage (X five) to 1,200+ (X five). Some of this is due to the aforementioned change to Flawless Dawbreaker, additional reduction in damage is Rapid Strikes.

To further degrade a stamina-based character Wrecking Blow became a useless skill. In other words, save yourself the two skill points. Agreed, the damage is still respectable, but removing the stun ability has ruined the skill. This came about because neophytes, who should not have been in Cyrodil in the first place, went crying yet again to Daddy ZOS. What in Molag Bals world is a level 30 character doing in Cyrodil anyhow! If you are going to reme a stun from the Two-Haned skill line, remove stun from all the weapon skill lines. If you have not already done so.

I could likely purchase or craft new gold CP 160 gear to the tune of half a million gold to try and repair ZOS's morphs. This happened three months ago. But then why do so if Daddy ZOS is going to change the rules yet again in three months!

Thank you yet again ZOS for taking a decent concept of a game and "teweaking" it to be mundane in the endless moronic "fixes" to satisfy the children. A job well done.

A Disillusioned Disgruntled Player on the PS4

Everything you said is basically the opposite right now. Stamblades are *** OP now in both PvE and PvP

Post your *** OP sustained Stamblade damage and your *** OP vMA Stamblade score (no cheat engine plz).

Toc de Malsvi · June 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Boradordin wrote: »

I never had the biggest, baddesr stam-blade but I was comfortable with it. The latest, greatest release on the PS4, The Dark Brotherhood, took a decent toon and made it worse.

Why? The main reason appears to be the gutting of Flawless Dawbreaker. In lieu of 8% wepon damage it now does only 2% damage. In my case it dropped my weapon damage in excess of 200 points. The only possible reason for this would seem to be that those playing vampires went crying to Daddy ZOS. They nerfed vampires once before to become supreme then adjusted stamina-based characters to make them somewhat competitive. Now it has swung the other way with vampires yet again in the ascendancy.

To make matters worse Rapid Strikes lost 25% of its damage potential, dropping from 1,600+ damage (X five) to 1,200+ (X five). Some of this is due to the aforementioned change to Flawless Dawbreaker, additional reduction in damage is Rapid Strikes.

To further degrade a stamina-based character Wrecking Blow became a useless skill. In other words, save yourself the two skill points. Agreed, the damage is still respectable, but removing the stun ability has ruined the skill. This came about because neophytes, who should not have been in Cyrodil in the first place, went crying yet again to Daddy ZOS. What in Molag Bals world is a level 30 character doing in Cyrodil anyhow! If you are going to reme a stun from the Two-Haned skill line, remove stun from all the weapon skill lines. If you have not already done so.

I could likely purchase or craft new gold CP 160 gear to the tune of half a million gold to try and repair ZOS's morphs. This happened three months ago. But then why do so if Daddy ZOS is going to change the rules yet again in three months!

Thank you yet again ZOS for taking a decent concept of a game and "teweaking" it to be mundane in the endless moronic "fixes" to satisfy the children. A job well done.

A Disillusioned Disgruntled Player on the PS4

Everything you said is basically the opposite right now. Stamblades are *** OP now in both PvE and PvP

Post your *** OP sustained Stamblade damage and your *** OP vMA Stamblade score (no cheat engine plz).

He actually has video's up of clearing vMA if you care to look, and guides for each round on a Stamina NB.

Emma_Overload · June 2016

Stamblades need a buff like Bill Gates needs more money.