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✭Justice31st wrote: »Sometimes I really wonder how people can have such a distorted view on reality - ESO is doing just fine and the overall direction this game is taking will make it even better. One Tamriel is a good move and will allow for other features like difficulty sliders - they are not announced yet, but it would make me wonder, if we won't get them at some point in time.
The only thing dying in this game are PvP-dreams and I wonder, when people will eventually get, that this is not a pvp game. It has some pvp, in a very limited area, well walled off from the rest of the world and it will stay there. You can forget about any dream of open world pvp - you got your playground there in Cyrrodil, now make the best out of it, because you won't get more.
PvP in this game is optional - who wants to do this, can, but it is not the focus of the game. I guess ZOS regrets the day, when they decided to have PvP in this game - this was a mistake and as much as they might see this now, they cannot get rid of it. So they will have to keep pretending, but I would not bet on that there will be a lot of progression as far as PvP goes. A few things maybe, like an arena and the occasional trial with DLCs, but otherwise ZOS's main focus was and will be on PvE.
In my opinion this is all good news for the majority of TES fans - that ESO finally shows it's RPG side, focuses on it's real strength and puts PvP on the back burner. And this is what I see ZOS doing - they finally focus on what has made TES great and phase the unwanted stuff out - so yes, some may feel that the game would be dying - but this is intended phasing out.
Edit: I think that difficulty slider will be coming, because a battle-level scaled lvl 4 player (in the way it is scaled now in DLCs) will have a hard time - too hard for many, and it might make people stop playing early on - a difficulty slider is necessary.
Lmao.
"Hey, let's not add PvP to a f***ing mmo"
What? Are you serious?
PvP is a huge aspect to any multiplayer game, go back to minecraft please.
And better yet let's add a single player Maelstrom Arena to a Massively Multiplayer Online game! Lmao.
Why thank you teacher. Did I at least get a passing grade for my essay?"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
attackjet✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Sometimes I really wonder how people can have such a distorted view on reality - ESO is doing just fine and the overall direction this game is taking will make it even better. One Tamriel is a good move and will allow for other features like difficulty sliders - they are not announced yet, but it would make me wonder, if we won't get them at some point in time.
The only thing dying in this game are PvP-dreams and I wonder, when people will eventually get, that this is not a pvp game. It has some pvp, in a very limited area, well walled off from the rest of the world and it will stay there. You can forget about any dream of open world pvp - you got your playground there in Cyrrodil, now make the best out of it, because you won't get more.
PvP in this game is optional - who wants to do this, can, but it is not the focus of the game. I guess ZOS regrets the day, when they decided to have PvP in this game - this was a mistake and as much as they might see this now, they cannot get rid of it. So they will have to keep pretending, but I would not bet on that there will be a lot of progression as far as PvP goes. A few things maybe, like an arena and the occasional trial with DLCs, but otherwise ZOS's main focus was and will be on PvE.
In my opinion this is all good news for the majority of TES fans - that ESO finally shows it's RPG side, focuses on it's real strength and puts PvP on the back burner. And this is what I see ZOS doing - they finally focus on what has made TES great and phase the unwanted stuff out - so yes, some may feel that the game would be dying - but this is intended phasing out.
Edit: I think that difficulty slider will be coming, because a battle-level scaled lvl 4 player (in the way it is scaled now in DLCs) will have a hard time - too hard for many, and it might make people stop playing early on - a difficulty slider is necessary.
Lmao.
"Hey, let's not add PvP to a f***ing mmo"
What? Are you serious?
PvP is a huge aspect to any multiplayer game, go back to minecraft please.
And better yet let's add a single player Maelstrom Arena to a Massively Multiplayer Online game! Lmao.
Why thank you teacher. Did I at least get a passing grade for my essay?
No you get a an.
Its better than a a+
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✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 14, 2016 9:43PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
You have no clue how long ESO will live on.
No one does.
If WoW can make it that long.,so can ESO.It all depends on so many things.1 -
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
Just because some bugs and exploits are present does not mean people are not praising the new content that excites them.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
Just because some bugs and exploits are present does not mean people are not praising the new content that excites them.
The bugs and exploits that still haven't been fixed after 2+ years shows consumers that Zenimax does not make game balances or patches their top priority. A bad model for future subscribers IMO."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
Just because some bugs and exploits are present does not mean people are not praising the new content that excites them.
The bugs and exploits that still haven't been fixed after 2+ years shows consumers that Zenimax does not make game balances or patches their top priority. A bad model for future subscribers IMO.
Which is what everyone that is fed up with waiting for the fixes says. Doesn't make it true though.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Aeladiir✭✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »If you listened to this message board the game was gonna die two years before launch. It's as healthy as any game on console. It's not going anywhere for quite a few years.
Things that were going to kill it off the top of my head ...
Angry Joe
Subscriptions
Subscription removal
It'll never come to console
Console will kill PC
Fallout 4
The Division
Nerfs
Buffs
PVE in PVP
Lag
The streamers left!
I'm sleepy so I won't bother to list the 5 dozen other things that range from illogical to insane.
Just enjoy what you have.
Also Wildstar and Black Desert Online. Um ... sorry. Who again?Mettaricana wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »0. Making a looooot of assumptions here. This game is still going strong and is nowhere near dieing.
1. 4 is plenty.
2. Small-scale PvP is already coming.
3. Refer to #2.
4. I'd say the majority of the metagame aims for dropped gear. Only a few craftable sets are actually used by them.
5. This has been mentioned already but you can still buy some horses from the stables.
6. I think there are plenty of non-crown store costumes.
7. You're right; it isn't minecraft. They did, however, tone it down to appeal to a younger audience.
8. Cyrodiil is both, excluding Gold Coast and Kvatch.
9. It's true there are no really difficult quests in this game but the other 2 exist, although the former of the 2 is an opinionation.
10. They did advertise it. I saw the commercial myself, even if it was advertised for XB1...
11. Explain?
Tone it down for a younger audience and the gane is still 18+ ......
I don't think European part of the community gives a single **** about American age restrictions (if Americans even care about it, that is). His point is valid, though, but gore could easily be on the level of either Skyrim or The Witcher, but the game can't really handle decapitations, cutting off limbs, etc., because of its design.
Personally I wouldn't mind blood, but it should be done properly (if you want an example of blood being utter disgrace, check Rome II's Blood and Gore DLC). Dark Brotherhood was a solid step ahead, though. They did a great job and could probably be able to build on it in the future.Edited by Aeladiir on June 14, 2016 9:53PM1 -
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
Just because some bugs and exploits are present does not mean people are not praising the new content that excites them.
The bugs and exploits that still haven't been fixed after 2+ years shows consumers that Zenimax does not make game balances or patches their top priority. A bad model for future subscribers IMO.
Which is what everyone that is fed up with waiting for the fixes says. Doesn't make it true though.
You really believe console players will be playing this game for another 10+ years, even after the announcement of new consoles coming out every couple of years now? You really believe Zenimax has the resources to continually upgrade this games software to be playable on the Xbox 6 if they cannot spend the resources on patching class breaking bugs? Come on man, with all the MMO's available on PC, consoles is currently what is keeping this company afloat.Edited by Justice31st on June 14, 2016 9:59PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
Just because some bugs and exploits are present does not mean people are not praising the new content that excites them.
The bugs and exploits that still haven't been fixed after 2+ years shows consumers that Zenimax does not make game balances or patches their top priority. A bad model for future subscribers IMO.
Which is what everyone that is fed up with waiting for the fixes says. Doesn't make it true though.
You really believe console players will be playing this game for another 10+ years, even after the announcement of new consoles coming out every couple of years now? You really believe Zenimax has the resources to continually upgrade this games software to be playable on the Xbox 6 if they cannot spend the resources on class breaking bugs? Come on man, with all the MMO's available on PC, consoles is currently what is keeping this company afloat.
Most likely due to the fact that the players on PC have destroyed the game for PC with all those hacks which probably would not have been so possible if Zenimax was not so accepting of all those third party mods. Despite that though PC is still in the game, and ESO is still highly thought of by the general public.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 14, 2016 10:00PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.0 -
Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
Just because some bugs and exploits are present does not mean people are not praising the new content that excites them.
The bugs and exploits that still haven't been fixed after 2+ years shows consumers that Zenimax does not make game balances or patches their top priority. A bad model for future subscribers IMO.
Which is what everyone that is fed up with waiting for the fixes says. Doesn't make it true though.
You really believe console players will be playing this game for another 10+ years, even after the announcement of new consoles coming out every couple of years now? You really believe Zenimax has the resources to continually upgrade this games software to be playable on the Xbox 6 if they cannot spend the resources on class breaking bugs? Come on man, with all the MMO's available on PC, consoles is currently what is keeping this company afloat.
Most likely due to the fact that the players on PC have destroyed the game for PC with all those hacks which probably would not have been so possible if Zenimax was not so accepting of all those third party mods. Despite that though PC is still in the game, and ESO is still highly thought of by the general public.
Well, we are just going to have to agree to disagree on that one. Take care.
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✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 14, 2016 10:04PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
So for Templar players, toppling charge being bugged for 2+ years which grants someone a free kill off of you (due to being locked out of any action) is deemed playable content. Come on, who is the liar now?Edited by Justice31st on June 14, 2016 10:08PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
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✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
So for Templar players toppling charge being bugged for 2+ years which grants someone a free kill off of you (due to being locked out of any action) is deemed playable content. Come on, who is the liar now?
Only if you keep trying to use it that way.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 14, 2016 10:09PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 14, 2016 10:13PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Florial✭✭✭I do think that the OP has made some good suggestions however I would disagree that the game is dying. In fact I'm pretty excited and have great faith that we will see some good things to come. I'm happily subscribed and will stay that way for quite some time. Things seem to be moving in the right direction. I played right at launch and frankly for me at least, the game has vastly improved.
I think players will come and go as new offerings come on the market. Heck, I succumbed to BDO for a bit but came back to ESO (whilst maintaining my sub). I would like to see ESO offer a bit more aside from just questing and combat though. WoW, as much as people love to bash it, has so much to offer in terms of game play, hobbies, collecting, achievements, PvP, raiding, etc. I do think that some of the OP's wishes would help flesh out an already good game.
OP one thing I would add is a really immersive housing system for collectors, creative people. A system like Wildstar comes to mind. I would be in heaven if something like this were to be added to the game---maybe minus the skateboard parks and staying within lore and all. Could be really fun.0 -
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges.
Actually it is possible to update single player games via DLC and patches. Perhaps not back then but now it is. At least with that said the remake will have a chance to be playable now if it comes out the same as before.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges.
Actually it is possible to update single player games via DLC and patches. Perhaps not back then but now it is. At least with that said the remake will have a chance to be playable now if it comes out the same as before.
Yes, I know single player games get patched, however the frequency is not high like MMO's. So comparing a single player games bugs/exploits to a MMO (where consumers pay a monthly fee or store item purchases that support an development team thats very job is too make a game more stable) is not right.Edited by Justice31st on June 14, 2016 10:26PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges.
Actually it is possible to update single player games via DLC and patches. Perhaps not back then but now it is. At least with that said the remake will have a chance to be playable now if it comes out the same as before.
Yes, I know single player games get patched, however the frequency is not high like MMO's. So comparing an single players buggs to an MMO where consumers pay a montly fee or store item purchases that support an development team thats very job is too make a game more stable is not right.
Well I could easily compare the bugs and exploits in this game to many others I've played both single and multi player but they were never gamebreakers like Skyrim's. Skyrim is literally the only game I found unplayable, regardless of it being single or multi player. It basically builds a tolerance to piddly bugs and exploits like ESO has.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges.
Actually it is possible to update single player games via DLC and patches. Perhaps not back then but now it is. At least with that said the remake will have a chance to be playable now if it comes out the same as before.
Yes, I know single player games get patched, however the frequency is not high like MMO's. So comparing an single players buggs to an MMO where consumers pay a montly fee or store item purchases that support an development team thats very job is too make a game more stable is not right.
Well I could easily compare the bugs and exploits in this game to many others I've played both single and multi player but they were never gamebreakers like Skyrim's. Skyrim is literally the only game I found unplayable, regardless of it being single or multi player. It basically builds a tolerance to piddly bugs and exploits like ESO has.
Why are you still using a single player game as an excuse for Zenimax's lack of game fixes for the past 2+ years in their MMO. This is pointless to debate. Good day lol."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
Aeladiir✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges.
Actually it is possible to update single player games via DLC and patches. Perhaps not back then but now it is. At least with that said the remake will have a chance to be playable now if it comes out the same as before.
Yes, I know single player games get patched, however the frequency is not high like MMO's. So comparing an single players buggs to an MMO where consumers pay a montly fee or store item purchases that support an development team thats very job is too make a game more stable is not right.
Well I could easily compare the bugs and exploits in this game to many others I've played both single and multi player but they were never gamebreakers like Skyrim's. Skyrim is literally the only game I found unplayable, regardless of it being single or multi player. It basically builds a tolerance to piddly bugs and exploits like ESO has.
Why are you still using a single player game as an excuse for Zenimax's lack of game fixes for the past 2+ years in their MMO. This is pointless to debate. Good day lol.
Well the complexity level is one reason which you seem to be ignoring. You can guess three times which game of the two is more complex.0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges.
Actually it is possible to update single player games via DLC and patches. Perhaps not back then but now it is. At least with that said the remake will have a chance to be playable now if it comes out the same as before.
Yes, I know single player games get patched, however the frequency is not high like MMO's. So comparing an single players buggs to an MMO where consumers pay a montly fee or store item purchases that support an development team thats very job is too make a game more stable is not right.
Well I could easily compare the bugs and exploits in this game to many others I've played both single and multi player but they were never gamebreakers like Skyrim's. Skyrim is literally the only game I found unplayable, regardless of it being single or multi player. It basically builds a tolerance to piddly bugs and exploits like ESO has.
Why are you still using a single player game as an excuse for Zenimax's lack of game fixes for the past 2+ years in their MMO. This is pointless to debate. Good day lol.
Because as I already said the bugs in ESO are piddly in comparison to the ones Skyrim suffered from. Doesn't matter what kind of games they are ESO is not unplayable. If it was it really would be dieing.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 14, 2016 10:32PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Dromede✭✭✭✭Lol. I love it how people think that what they want is what is universally desired.
I for one, do not enjoy blood and insides all over the screen, especially when playing right before going to bed. That's a big part of the reason why i don't play Witcher)
Thos game definitely has at least a couple more years to go - especially if they turn advertising volume up - i do agree with this statement 100% here.
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Lae Lenne - Templar Healer Trial grade.
Dromede - Stamina Nightblade, she's a newb and doesn't know what she's doing
V'oghatta - Stamplar pretending to be a tank
Ulville Thonvella - aspiring Fire Mage, be careful around her fire sticks!
Dromedaris - lost and not found. Named after a shoe, what else can you expect from her? A proper tank in her wildest dreams
Swims-Naked - too pretty to grind, too silly to quest.
Sun Flair - Dunmer Templar that can't spell for life. To bad she's too broke to afford a name change... Well, at least she's pretty...0 -
Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Every game will eventually "die".
So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.
Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
It has been almost 12 years and WOW is still not dead yet. Unfortunately, the life of ESO will not even last half of that. Zenimax should of taken some notes from its predecessors.
Wouldn't be so sure of that yet. Zenimax is constantly turning heads with every DLC, thus extending its playability.
The day zero bugs/exploits says other wise.
This isnt true.Its just your opinion.I and tons of other players,obviously,find ESO to be quite playable.
Some of the issues are annoying and exploiters of some outrageous acts should indeed be penalized for doing so but whuddyagunnado... I don't like them but they aren't gamebreaking like Skyrim's bugs were.
That is the problem. You are comparing a single player game to an MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game)
No I'm not. I'm comparing the bugs from one game to the bugs from another in quantity and quality. Has nothing to do with the games themselves.
Seriously though Skyrim was totally unplayable and I am hoping the remake is not a repeat of that hot mess...
Skyrim was so buggy because single players games do not receive weekly updates ( due to no monthly fee or subscription services) which allows game developers to be financially supported to keep a staff of game developers to patch their game/ make it less buggy from weekly maintanence. MMO's do so. This is an MMO, so comparing a patched single player game to an MMO is like comparing apples to oranges.
Actually it is possible to update single player games via DLC and patches. Perhaps not back then but now it is. At least with that said the remake will have a chance to be playable now if it comes out the same as before.
Yes, I know single player games get patched, however the frequency is not high like MMO's. So comparing an single players buggs to an MMO where consumers pay a montly fee or store item purchases that support an development team thats very job is too make a game more stable is not right.
Well I could easily compare the bugs and exploits in this game to many others I've played both single and multi player but they were never gamebreakers like Skyrim's. Skyrim is literally the only game I found unplayable, regardless of it being single or multi player. It basically builds a tolerance to piddly bugs and exploits like ESO has.
Why are you still using a single player game as an excuse for Zenimax's lack of game fixes for the past 2+ years in their MMO. This is pointless to debate. Good day lol.
Because as I already said the bugs in ESO are piddly in comparison to the ones Skyrim suffered from. Doesn't matter what kind of games they are ESO is not unplayable. If it was it really would be dieing.
What are you talking about. You are the one who first mentioned ESO's playability. I posted about the bugs/exploits that are still in the game after 2+year that haven't been patched. And also disputed you about you believing ESO will last as long as World of Warcraft which is ludicrous. WOW has been out since 2004 and still has more subscribers than ESO. And Skyrim was playable. Many people have finished the games story line."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
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✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »If you listened to this message board the game was gonna die two years before launch. It's as healthy as any game on console. It's not going anywhere for quite a few years.
Things that were going to kill it off the top of my head ...
Angry Joe
Subscriptions
Subscription removal
It'll never come to console
Console will kill PC
Fallout 4
The Division
Nerfs
Buffs
PVE in PVP
Lag
The streamers left!
I'm sleepy so I won't bother to list the 5 dozen other things that range from illogical to insane.
Just enjoy what you have.
Lmao, remember angry joe's review? Damn, time passes quicklyEdited by SanTii.92 on June 14, 2016 10:50PMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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