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This game will eventually die, so here's what you should do next time.

attackjet
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Please, don't talk about how things like "more classes will lead to infinite nerfs and balancing issues" because this is a next time post.

1. More classes, 4 isn't enough
2. Battlegrounds and arenas
3. Dueling
4. More achievable good gear, not just crafted gear
5. Achievable mounts
6. More achievable costumes
7. Darker game (I.e more blood, death, gore) this isn't minecraft
8. PvP in pve, with a toggle of course.
9. Difficult quests, interesting quests and immersive quests
10. Advertise the game? Like common I didn't even know the game was out until like 8 months ago tf?
11. Ragdoll system

Can't think of any more, please add some if you can think of them....

Or just complain about how this will never be implemented and completely disregard the fact I'm talking about the next elder scrolls mmo if it ever comes...


  • bareheiny
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    Every game will eventually "die".

    So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.

    Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...
  • UltimaJoe777
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    0. Making a looooot of assumptions here. This game is still going strong and is nowhere near dieing.
    1. 4 is plenty.
    2. Small-scale PvP is already coming.
    3. Refer to #2.
    4. I'd say the majority of the metagame aims for dropped gear. Only a few craftable sets are actually used by them.
    5. This has been mentioned already but you can still buy some horses from the stables.
    6. I think there are plenty of non-crown store costumes.
    7. You're right; it isn't minecraft. They did, however, tone it down to appeal to a younger audience.
    8. Cyrodiil is both, excluding Gold Coast and Kvatch.
    9. It's true there are no really difficult quests in this game but the other 2 exist, although the former of the 2 is an opinionation.
    10. They did advertise it. I saw the commercial myself, even if it was advertised for XB1...
    11. Explain?
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  • Mojmir
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    more hardcore for the headstrong,less casual and slow as you go.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    If you listened to this message board the game was gonna die two years before launch. It's as healthy as any game on console. It's not going anywhere for quite a few years.

    Things that were going to kill it off the top of my head ...

    Angry Joe
    Subscriptions
    Subscription removal
    It'll never come to console
    Console will kill PC
    Fallout 4
    The Division
    Nerfs
    Buffs
    PVE in PVP
    Lag
    The streamers left!

    I'm sleepy so I won't bother to list the 5 dozen other things that range from illogical to insane.

    Just enjoy what you have.
  • tinythinker
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    The true cause of of death is birth, and of birth is death. All is forms are impermanent. Seek what remains.

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    (So at that point why not make a great game?)
    Edited by tinythinker on June 14, 2016 4:34AM
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  • Smileybones
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    ESO is far from dieing and Zenimax is making the game evolve. So all that you list can eventually happen in the actual game.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Next one is already on the way . One Tamriel . You can't kill the nameless MMO . Every year a new name ...

    But I'll book mark this page an check it once a year .
  • SlayerTheDragon
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    I think it is actually doing the opposite of dying.

    Have you been ingame lately, seen all the newbie chat questions? Or the ton of people at the dolmen's in Glenumbra, or the lag in Stormhaven?

    I think we can all relax in the certainty that the game is not dying.
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    I had to google "ragdoll system". So, the OP thinks the game will die because people don't die like a ragdoll. I could see that on the list for top 100,000 things to add.
  • ContraTempo
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    attackjet wrote: »
    10. Advertise the game? Like common I didn't even know the game was out until like 8 months ago tf?

    One I agree with. The advertising/PR was inadequate. Even as a Skyrim player looking at Skyrim related sites I only found out about ESO after it launched. That's not good enough. I knew about Destiny long before launch as I could not look at a tech or gaming forum without seeing it mentioned. Big hype, almost went with Destiny. My connection with Skyrim was the deciding factor for ESO.

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  • ContraTempo
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    11. Explain?

    He's saying he wants better body/motion physics.

    IMO what we have is quite adequate for this game. This is such a minor concern it's not even on the same page as lag, balance, grouping, etc.
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  • acw37162
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    There should be a requirement to post your resume to start a thread about to remake or make the game better.
  • ConeOfSilence
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    The amount of players in Rawl'kha, the bank clogs up with players some days to the point it is hard to see the teller and the room is jam full and you can hear the door open and close every second.
  • Garethjolnir
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    If you dislike the game so much, please leave. This board could do without your ignorant assumptions.

    There's a difference between constructive criticism and suggestions to improve the game, than implying that the game is going to die if they do not add your personal wish list.

    From a glance, it appears the game is actually doing the opposite of dying.
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  • Mettaricana
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    0. Making a looooot of assumptions here. This game is still going strong and is nowhere near dieing.
    1. 4 is plenty.
    2. Small-scale PvP is already coming.
    3. Refer to #2.
    4. I'd say the majority of the metagame aims for dropped gear. Only a few craftable sets are actually used by them.
    5. This has been mentioned already but you can still buy some horses from the stables.
    6. I think there are plenty of non-crown store costumes.
    7. You're right; it isn't minecraft. They did, however, tone it down to appeal to a younger audience.
    8. Cyrodiil is both, excluding Gold Coast and Kvatch.
    9. It's true there are no really difficult quests in this game but the other 2 exist, although the former of the 2 is an opinionation.
    10. They did advertise it. I saw the commercial myself, even if it was advertised for XB1...
    11. Explain?

    Tone it down for a younger audience and the gane is still 18+ ......
  • Turelus
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    From my forums reading on EVE Online that has been dying for twelve years now. :cry:
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  • Digiman
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    attackjet wrote: »
    11. Ragdoll system

    I would completely enjoy an actual ragdoll system for this game, was disappointed it wasn't in the game engine.
  • Malmai
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    0. Making a looooot of assumptions here. This game is still going strong and is nowhere near dieing.
    1. 4 is plenty.
    2. Small-scale PvP is already coming.
    3. Refer to #2.
    4. I'd say the majority of the metagame aims for dropped gear. Only a few craftable sets are actually used by them.
    5. This has been mentioned already but you can still buy some horses from the stables.
    6. I think there are plenty of non-crown store costumes.
    7. You're right; it isn't minecraft. They did, however, tone it down to appeal to a younger audience.
    8. Cyrodiil is both, excluding Gold Coast and Kvatch.
    9. It's true there are no really difficult quests in this game but the other 2 exist, although the former of the 2 is an opinionation.
    10. They did advertise it. I saw the commercial myself, even if it was advertised for XB1...
    11. Explain?

    LOL ZOS paying you ?
  • Gargath
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    For me:
    1. to add a wider amount of weapons and their respective abilities/spells, like the long anticipated spears/halberds from Morrowind, or scepters/horns-like tools from GW2.
    2. more weapons means more differencies between classes and playing styles and thus more interest into creating more than few characters.
    3. I'd love to see a bit changed mechanics of running. Now all characters run like their legs had some springs inside, so they simply jump in a funny way. Adding more stability into character's movements, bringing it more to Skyrim mechanics i.e. more real behaviour. It will help the immersion - the fairy-tale feeling will fade a bit.
    4. to add dyes for existing mounts, especially for basic horses available for everyone. Add some specified small unique graphics on the mounts, just like we can add only specified avatars on the forum.
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  • Mush55
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    This game is dwindling can tell from my friends/guild list , New dungeons would be a start, may be the odd special event like a world boss spawning at a certain time as a one off with the chance to get an epic weapon without training or other crap trait on it.

    And maybe an evenly matched battle ground for the pvpers instead of the zerg infested lag ridden horse simulator they have to deal with now.
  • Duiwel
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    Things that were going to kill it off the top of my head ...

    Angry Joe

    Yeah this A-hole really hurt the game when it was in a good place and it could have easily gotten a couple more million subscribers if not for his bad press...

    Just cause it didn't have housing, justice elements yet he crucified a really fun and good game.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    #12. STOP FIXING THING THAT AREN'T BROKEN!!!!
    1. Cyrodiil worked fine before the lighting/anti-botting patch broke it.
    2. Toppling charge worked fine before the post-GCD botting code broke it
    3. All other gap closers worked fine, until the pathing, LOS code broke them
    4. Dodging gap closers worked fine until ZOS decided to buff Zergs that want to lock down single players with guaranteed gap closer spam that puts an UNPURGABLE 80% SNARE on you that can't be countered or mitigated by anything.
    5. Soft-caps worked fine at keeping abilities, healing and damage under control until the Crapeon system unbalanced and wrecked the game.

    There were plenty of bugs and broken things in this game but too many times, the "cure" was far worse than the disease.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on June 14, 2016 9:25AM
  • ArchMikem
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    Things that were going to kill it off the top of my head ...

    Angry Joe

    Yeah this A-hole really hurt the game when it was in a good place and it could have easily gotten a couple more million subscribers if not for his bad press...

    Just cause it didn't have housing, justice elements yet he crucified a really fun and good game.

    Its a fun and good game NOW. From what i saw back then ESO looked pretty crap, and they wanted a subscription? Joe was right in his review. Im positive his tone would be different now if he did the review again.
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  • The Uninvited
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    I'll let you in on a little secret: We all will die eventually!
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  • Mayrael
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    Me wants more banans or this game will die! More darker bananas!
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  • Avalon
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    I'm actually a big advocate for removing the classes, and letting people pick 3 of the available trees from which to make their characters... So, guess you could say I think 4 classes is too MANY :-)
  • Duiwel
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    ArchMikem wrote: »

    Its a fun and good game NOW. From what i saw back then ESO looked pretty crap, and they wanted a subscription? Joe was right in his review. Im positive his tone would be different now if he did the review again.

    By the sound of it you weren't here or played it so remind me again how you can give an opinion mate?

    I was there, many of us were.
    The game was fine, it's been fine without housing for a long time, we didn't need justice @ launch, the game's version of it wasn't ready and they wanted to give us a finished product on the 2 most important guilds of this series.

    All things in life come down to needs and wants:
    Do we need housing ? No
    Do we want housing? Yes
    Do we need justice system @ launch ? No
    Will we get justice system eventually? Yes

    Nice of you to think that a game that hired expensive and well known voice actors, spent millions making it visually appeasing and you don't want to subscribe for it to keep them delivering the same quality.

    Was I pissed @ the sub? Yes, did I pay it? Yes.

    Joe is a hypocrite he plays wow ( and subs there no problem or complaints about the sub there), I wonder mate, did you sub for WoW? Did you ever complain about that? If you answer is yes, you have a pretty weak argument.

    I like how you take everything someone else says as law and written in stone though, way to have an opinion for youself! - claps
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  • dsalter
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    attackjet wrote: »
    Please, don't talk about how things like "more classes will lead to infinite nerfs and balancing issues" because this is a next time post.

    1. More classes, 4 isn't enough
    2. Battlegrounds and arenas
    3. Dueling
    4. More achievable good gear, not just crafted gear
    5. Achievable mounts
    6. More achievable costumes
    7. Darker game (I.e more blood, death, gore) this isn't minecraft
    8. PvP in pve, with a toggle of course.
    9. Difficult quests, interesting quests and immersive quests
    10. Advertise the game? Like common I didn't even know the game was out until like 8 months ago tf?
    11. Ragdoll system

    Can't think of any more, please add some if you can think of them....

    Or just complain about how this will never be implemented and completely disregard the fact I'm talking about the next elder scrolls mmo if it ever comes...


    ragdoll system was left out for a reason.
    the games dark enough for an ES game, we don't need insane gore.
    battlegrounds, duels and world pvp? that would obliterate the point of cyrodiil AND IC as well as just be a copy and paste of WoW.
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    bareheiny wrote: »
    Every game will eventually "die".

    So why not focus on the one we have and advocate for change...rather than talk about the next version, which could be years away if ever.

    Hell, DCUO has been dying for the last five years or so...

    Pretty much this^^^, wow will die, eso will die, eq will die, enjoy while you can games as we know it will die at some point.. and part 2's never seem to work very well.
  • LegacyDM
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    3 things that will kill any mmorpg.

    1. Bugs
    2. Cheats
    3. Lag

    I'd say eso has a problem.

    Game has been out with plenty of time to fix. When something better comes along it will be a ghost town.
    Edited by LegacyDM on June 14, 2016 10:52AM
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