WhoThenNow7 wrote: »

But why would ZOS change it to make it easier for smaller groups to win, or take less damage? That would just take away the point of anyone wanting to be in a large group. It just doesn't make sense. I know this is a terrible place to mention what's realistic, but I'll use your point against you: all throughout history, did large groups of people do less damage to others just because they were in a smaller group than them? The answer is no. Damage is damage. And if you are outnumbered then you need to rely on skill.

The problem is that in these types of games, most groups just do random crap. There is no complete order and synchronization in your small groups going against these larger armies. I've actually been a part of a smaller group and we succeeded in pushing back the enemy! It's about skill and organization. Don't nerf damage done. That is seriously the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard. If you don't like large scale battles then why did you even attempt to play PvP?

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you really do not make any sense. You are making complaints for literally no reason. And if you want to think about history, I'm pretty sure the 300 Spartans ended up dying to a larger group. When you have larger numbers, you can afford to have less skill than a group who has good skill. Ever heard the saying "strength in numbers"? This is fairly common military practice back in the day, and something I would really expect everyone who even attempts to play this game to know.

Do you realized what you just said made zero sense at all right?It showed you didn't even read my post because I asked for a chance not for them to always win but let me respond to your ridiculous post.

Actually it wouldn't take it away from the point of people being in large groups.You have safety in numbers and that wouldn't change.You would still have more damage and healing being thrown at you while your in your zerg.The smaller group would just have a chance a chance ZOS keep on nerfing.

Now to answer your question about history actually the smaller group would have taken lessee damage then the larger group even in real life,because those smaller forces was more agile and generally smarter then the larger force so they could out play and take less damage then their opponent.You know why because the larger force always assumed because they have larger numbers they will just steam roll the smaller force with no problem.Which lead to them either losing or taking server loses which leads them to lose the war elsewhere.

Now your point that's no coordinate with smaller groups go to show you really don't know what your talking about.They have to Be way more coordinated then the smaller group because the large groups just try to consume everything in front of them.95% of Zergs are players moving to a point with no coordination at all.So yes Nerf the damage Smaller groups take and increase the damage larger groups take it makes no sense at all that larger groups take less damage then a smaller group.Think about it I can't believe you think that make sense unless your a Zerg player who don't want to lose their unfair advantage.

To your finally point no I don't feel your trying be a jerk I personally feel you just don't know what your talking about at all and just might be on the slower side if I was to be honest.You a player who chase after 1 person with 15+ other players stream roll that person then high five each other because you all killed that one person. Am complaining because smaller groups should have options and a chance at winning against larger groups like they be able to do all throughout history and how they used to be able to at the start of the game before AOE caps were introduced into the game.Also with the 50% damage Nerf across the board you players take even less damage.It's stupid and bad game design it rewards bad players and not tey to make improve themselves its bad for the player and the game.Its false gratificationgratification.Also to your point about 300 Spartan they were never supposed to win at all they all knew that.Their goal was to slow down the Persian advance which they did which allowed the rest of Greece to unite and defeat the Persians.So they actually won for several days and won the war.Finally your not losing your strength in numbers you still have that in my plan but the smaller groups will still have the chance they deserve to have.ZOS is removing that chance even with the proxy change it it deal less damage to 10+ players which is stupid it should deal more damage at 10+ then it does at any other range.

Basically I don't believe Zergs should get artificial additional benefits in this game other then what they already have.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Ive honestly come to hate the term zerg. It used to actually mean something but its just like any other overly used term. Its almost never applied to the appropriate situation. Apparently in a Massive Battlezone meant for Large Scale PvP you shouldnt group up and do Large Scale PvP.

That's not the problem at all.I don't get why people don't understand this.No body is telling you not to fight other large groups just don't chase me down with your other 30 players and tea bag me after I killed each of you 5 times by yourself.I just want healthy PVP which we are not getting now because the low skill CPAs Zergs have which just allow them to be farmed endlessly because their unskilled then ask for nerfs.What I personal want is for all play styles to be viable I don't see why that's so hard to ask for.Smaller groups are need in war for multiple reasons scouting,distractions slowing down reinforcements,most smaller forces are the initial force in a fight.Most wars back then you send in a smaller force to start a beach head for the larger force to arrive.You need smaller groups in large scale PVP because without it you can't do most of the stuff large groups can do now.

zerg pvp isnt that bad, I enjoy those long keep battles. it's the *** lag that sucks. I domt particularly enjou defending a keep for 2hrs when I get spam dropped durimg a 30k ap tick. every time ever.

This is just a qq thread. lack of content kills the game. Whiners to.

Solid_Metal wrote: »

you people who hate zergs, better play another game that not include "Massive War", seriously....thats the whole point of the Massive AvA War

Actually not true at all you need small groups or forces in wars to do things the large group can not do.So remove the small group you hamper the larger forces.

there are a lot of zerglings in this thread

Solid_Metal wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Solid_Metal wrote: »

you people who hate zergs, better play another game that not include "Massive War", seriously....thats the whole point of the Massive AvA War

Actually not true at all you need small groups or forces in wars to do things the large group can not do.So remove the small group you hamper the larger forces.

means the large group still exist in IRL war right?, see, thats inevatble, and ZoS themself are out of control for this one
my propose?, all alliance that hate zergs, instead of complain it, destroy them using the "small group" forces thingy

np : i also hate it, buit theres nothing you can do

To a extent they would but they would be extremely hampered and 80% chance to lose the coming war or battle.I agree they need to stop nerfing small groups and change the way AOe caps to smaller groups take less damage.