VISCIOUS DEATH- 100% confirmed broken on PS4

NeillMcAttack · May 2016

100% CONFIRMED that this is the most misleading title of a thread on these entire forums. I should know..., because, I think it is.

DjKahun · May 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

First- I play on PS4. I don’t claim to know what happens on PC or Xbox platforms, so if you don’t play on PS4- please don’t act like you about my platform..

Second, I didn’t save a screenshot, I wish I would have. I was more questioning to my group that VD was proc’d by a siege than going off early. It seems most PVPers I run with already operate on the fact BVD proc’s early to the point even some Stamina builds wear the set. The only place it seems to be debated anymore is in these forums.
I am on Scourge and Blackwater quite a bit with Cravility, Mourningstar, Raiders of Cyrodil under the same screen name, so maybe someone will recognize my name and vouch I’m not just some troll- or making up a lie like I was accused of in another thread.

Thirdly, three of my characters are currently wearing VD, I paid a bit for the jewelry parts, so I don’t hate the set.

But this is real simple:
Saturday night in Scourge , red and yellow fighting over Blue Road almost all night, at one point I sneak down to Sejanus by myself helping to flag it quick and cut off their lines.
I don’t see any counter attack so I put up 3 stone trebs..

Then blam DEAD.

- A cold fire ballista hit me from the roof for over 16K. Huge hit.
- Viscious Death goes off for another 8K
That is the entire death screen. Two things. No "out of order", no "UI error".... just a huge hit from a ballista, VD and death.

My health was right around 23K. (it may have been lower, I'm not sure if I had the bar with Entropy on it, or which armor set was fully activated depending on which weapons/shield I had up at the time.

So stop debating whether it procs early or not, it’s totally clear. I use the set, it is what it is…..but please stop all the misinformation.

Go google more threads.

1. It does not proc early it's been tested by people on pc with add ons, videos, people count the dmg. The only reason it appears on your recap is an UI error that zos have confirmed.
2. The reason you died may be have from 2 ticks of the siege, it may have been because you were dmg or the likely cause was that you was hp desync, so despite looking like you was full hp you was actually around the 16k mark and died.

You yourself is only adding to the misinformation .

As far as I know it has been tested by people on PC with addons and confirmed broken and not an UI glitch. I'm now completely confused lol

bowmanz607 · May 2016

DjKahun wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

First- I play on PS4. I don’t claim to know what happens on PC or Xbox platforms, so if you don’t play on PS4- please don’t act like you about my platform..

Second, I didn’t save a screenshot, I wish I would have. I was more questioning to my group that VD was proc’d by a siege than going off early. It seems most PVPers I run with already operate on the fact BVD proc’s early to the point even some Stamina builds wear the set. The only place it seems to be debated anymore is in these forums.
I am on Scourge and Blackwater quite a bit with Cravility, Mourningstar, Raiders of Cyrodil under the same screen name, so maybe someone will recognize my name and vouch I’m not just some troll- or making up a lie like I was accused of in another thread.

Thirdly, three of my characters are currently wearing VD, I paid a bit for the jewelry parts, so I don’t hate the set.

But this is real simple:
Saturday night in Scourge , red and yellow fighting over Blue Road almost all night, at one point I sneak down to Sejanus by myself helping to flag it quick and cut off their lines.
I don’t see any counter attack so I put up 3 stone trebs..

Then blam DEAD.

- A cold fire ballista hit me from the roof for over 16K. Huge hit.
- Viscious Death goes off for another 8K
That is the entire death screen. Two things. No "out of order", no "UI error".... just a huge hit from a ballista, VD and death.

My health was right around 23K. (it may have been lower, I'm not sure if I had the bar with Entropy on it, or which armor set was fully activated depending on which weapons/shield I had up at the time.

So stop debating whether it procs early or not, it’s totally clear. I use the set, it is what it is…..but please stop all the misinformation.

Go google more threads.

1. It does not proc early it's been tested by people on pc with add ons, videos, people count the dmg. The only reason it appears on your recap is an UI error that zos have confirmed.
2. The reason you died may be have from 2 ticks of the siege, it may have been because you were dmg or the likely cause was that you was hp desync, so despite looking like you was full hp you was actually around the 16k mark and died.

You yourself is only adding to the misinformation .

As far as I know it has been tested by people on PC with addons and confirmed broken and not an UI glitch. I'm now completely confused lol

That's interesting because not one of those test are anywhere to be found. On the other hand, there are plenty of videos that show it proccing properly.

Sunburnt_Penguin · May 2016

DjKahun wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

First- I play on PS4. I don’t claim to know what happens on PC or Xbox platforms, so if you don’t play on PS4- please don’t act like you about my platform..

Second, I didn’t save a screenshot, I wish I would have. I was more questioning to my group that VD was proc’d by a siege than going off early. It seems most PVPers I run with already operate on the fact BVD proc’s early to the point even some Stamina builds wear the set. The only place it seems to be debated anymore is in these forums.
I am on Scourge and Blackwater quite a bit with Cravility, Mourningstar, Raiders of Cyrodil under the same screen name, so maybe someone will recognize my name and vouch I’m not just some troll- or making up a lie like I was accused of in another thread.

Thirdly, three of my characters are currently wearing VD, I paid a bit for the jewelry parts, so I don’t hate the set.

But this is real simple:
Saturday night in Scourge , red and yellow fighting over Blue Road almost all night, at one point I sneak down to Sejanus by myself helping to flag it quick and cut off their lines.
I don’t see any counter attack so I put up 3 stone trebs..

Then blam DEAD.

- A cold fire ballista hit me from the roof for over 16K. Huge hit.
- Viscious Death goes off for another 8K
That is the entire death screen. Two things. No "out of order", no "UI error".... just a huge hit from a ballista, VD and death.

My health was right around 23K. (it may have been lower, I'm not sure if I had the bar with Entropy on it, or which armor set was fully activated depending on which weapons/shield I had up at the time.

So stop debating whether it procs early or not, it’s totally clear. I use the set, it is what it is…..but please stop all the misinformation.

Go google more threads.

1. It does not proc early it's been tested by people on pc with add ons, videos, people count the dmg. The only reason it appears on your recap is an UI error that zos have confirmed.
2. The reason you died may be have from 2 ticks of the siege, it may have been because you were dmg or the likely cause was that you was hp desync, so despite looking like you was full hp you was actually around the 16k mark and died.

You yourself is only adding to the misinformation .

As far as I know it has been tested by people on PC with addons and confirmed broken and not an UI glitch. I'm now completely confused lol

@DjKahun

Can you provide a link to such tests because my own tests (on console from deducting damage and adding healing to my starting health) have proven otherwise?

DjKahun · May 2016

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

DjKahun wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

First- I play on PS4. I don’t claim to know what happens on PC or Xbox platforms, so if you don’t play on PS4- please don’t act like you about my platform..

Second, I didn’t save a screenshot, I wish I would have. I was more questioning to my group that VD was proc’d by a siege than going off early. It seems most PVPers I run with already operate on the fact BVD proc’s early to the point even some Stamina builds wear the set. The only place it seems to be debated anymore is in these forums.
I am on Scourge and Blackwater quite a bit with Cravility, Mourningstar, Raiders of Cyrodil under the same screen name, so maybe someone will recognize my name and vouch I’m not just some troll- or making up a lie like I was accused of in another thread.

Thirdly, three of my characters are currently wearing VD, I paid a bit for the jewelry parts, so I don’t hate the set.

But this is real simple:
Saturday night in Scourge , red and yellow fighting over Blue Road almost all night, at one point I sneak down to Sejanus by myself helping to flag it quick and cut off their lines.
I don’t see any counter attack so I put up 3 stone trebs..

Then blam DEAD.

- A cold fire ballista hit me from the roof for over 16K. Huge hit.
- Viscious Death goes off for another 8K
That is the entire death screen. Two things. No "out of order", no "UI error".... just a huge hit from a ballista, VD and death.

My health was right around 23K. (it may have been lower, I'm not sure if I had the bar with Entropy on it, or which armor set was fully activated depending on which weapons/shield I had up at the time.

So stop debating whether it procs early or not, it’s totally clear. I use the set, it is what it is…..but please stop all the misinformation.

Go google more threads.

1. It does not proc early it's been tested by people on pc with add ons, videos, people count the dmg. The only reason it appears on your recap is an UI error that zos have confirmed.
2. The reason you died may be have from 2 ticks of the siege, it may have been because you were dmg or the likely cause was that you was hp desync, so despite looking like you was full hp you was actually around the 16k mark and died.

You yourself is only adding to the misinformation .

As far as I know it has been tested by people on PC with addons and confirmed broken and not an UI glitch. I'm now completely confused lol

@DjKahun

Can you provide a link to such tests because my own tests (on console from deducting damage and adding healing to my starting health) have proven otherwise?

Seen it on the forum somewhere let me find it..

Sunburnt_Penguin · May 2016

DjKahun wrote: »

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

DjKahun wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

First- I play on PS4. I don’t claim to know what happens on PC or Xbox platforms, so if you don’t play on PS4- please don’t act like you about my platform..

Second, I didn’t save a screenshot, I wish I would have. I was more questioning to my group that VD was proc’d by a siege than going off early. It seems most PVPers I run with already operate on the fact BVD proc’s early to the point even some Stamina builds wear the set. The only place it seems to be debated anymore is in these forums.
I am on Scourge and Blackwater quite a bit with Cravility, Mourningstar, Raiders of Cyrodil under the same screen name, so maybe someone will recognize my name and vouch I’m not just some troll- or making up a lie like I was accused of in another thread.

Thirdly, three of my characters are currently wearing VD, I paid a bit for the jewelry parts, so I don’t hate the set.

But this is real simple:
Saturday night in Scourge , red and yellow fighting over Blue Road almost all night, at one point I sneak down to Sejanus by myself helping to flag it quick and cut off their lines.
I don’t see any counter attack so I put up 3 stone trebs..

Then blam DEAD.

- A cold fire ballista hit me from the roof for over 16K. Huge hit.
- Viscious Death goes off for another 8K
That is the entire death screen. Two things. No "out of order", no "UI error".... just a huge hit from a ballista, VD and death.

My health was right around 23K. (it may have been lower, I'm not sure if I had the bar with Entropy on it, or which armor set was fully activated depending on which weapons/shield I had up at the time.

So stop debating whether it procs early or not, it’s totally clear. I use the set, it is what it is…..but please stop all the misinformation.

Go google more threads.

1. It does not proc early it's been tested by people on pc with add ons, videos, people count the dmg. The only reason it appears on your recap is an UI error that zos have confirmed.
2. The reason you died may be have from 2 ticks of the siege, it may have been because you were dmg or the likely cause was that you was hp desync, so despite looking like you was full hp you was actually around the 16k mark and died.

You yourself is only adding to the misinformation .

As far as I know it has been tested by people on PC with addons and confirmed broken and not an UI glitch. I'm now completely confused lol

@DjKahun

Can you provide a link to such tests because my own tests (on console from deducting damage and adding healing to my starting health) have proven otherwise?

Seen it on the forum somewhere let me find it..

Any luck?

DjKahun · May 2016

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

DjKahun wrote: »

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

DjKahun wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

First- I play on PS4. I don’t claim to know what happens on PC or Xbox platforms, so if you don’t play on PS4- please don’t act like you about my platform..

Second, I didn’t save a screenshot, I wish I would have. I was more questioning to my group that VD was proc’d by a siege than going off early. It seems most PVPers I run with already operate on the fact BVD proc’s early to the point even some Stamina builds wear the set. The only place it seems to be debated anymore is in these forums.
I am on Scourge and Blackwater quite a bit with Cravility, Mourningstar, Raiders of Cyrodil under the same screen name, so maybe someone will recognize my name and vouch I’m not just some troll- or making up a lie like I was accused of in another thread.

Thirdly, three of my characters are currently wearing VD, I paid a bit for the jewelry parts, so I don’t hate the set.

But this is real simple:
Saturday night in Scourge , red and yellow fighting over Blue Road almost all night, at one point I sneak down to Sejanus by myself helping to flag it quick and cut off their lines.
I don’t see any counter attack so I put up 3 stone trebs..

Then blam DEAD.

- A cold fire ballista hit me from the roof for over 16K. Huge hit.
- Viscious Death goes off for another 8K
That is the entire death screen. Two things. No "out of order", no "UI error".... just a huge hit from a ballista, VD and death.

My health was right around 23K. (it may have been lower, I'm not sure if I had the bar with Entropy on it, or which armor set was fully activated depending on which weapons/shield I had up at the time.

So stop debating whether it procs early or not, it’s totally clear. I use the set, it is what it is…..but please stop all the misinformation.

Go google more threads.

1. It does not proc early it's been tested by people on pc with add ons, videos, people count the dmg. The only reason it appears on your recap is an UI error that zos have confirmed.
2. The reason you died may be have from 2 ticks of the siege, it may have been because you were dmg or the likely cause was that you was hp desync, so despite looking like you was full hp you was actually around the 16k mark and died.

You yourself is only adding to the misinformation .

As far as I know it has been tested by people on PC with addons and confirmed broken and not an UI glitch. I'm now completely confused lol

@DjKahun

Can you provide a link to such tests because my own tests (on console from deducting damage and adding healing to my starting health) have proven otherwise?

Seen it on the forum somewhere let me find it..

Any luck?

Nope can't find it lol maybe he deleted it but I have been fighting a Magicka Nightblade myself solo 1v1 once my shields were down all he did was proxy det no other attack at all and Vicious Death still proc'ed and it's highly unlikely that he would hit 20k+ with just proxy det.

Armitas · May 2016

Will be so nice not to have this on my death log.

outsideworld76 · May 2016

Since I use shuffle I don't get as much VD on my recap, in fact I don't get that many recaps at all.

Anyway they should make a medium armor set with VD as well. Would love that.

Mike0987 · May 2016

I would agree, it seems to have a AOE the size of Texas. So many times, not another single dead player within sight of were my corpse was. The 5 hits from the same player in less than 1/10th of a second and this is just one of the many reasons I have stopped PVP. Too many exploits.

klink012 · May 2016

Zaldan wrote: »

there are way too many bugs that need fixing in this game to state anything with any kind of certainty lets face it

DING! DING! DING!! This guy hit it right on the money.

And YES Vicious Death is 100% BUGGED. It does not proc early every time, but it does in fact proc early. I'm not sure if it doesn't take the food buff in effect?? I've personally died by VD procing early, all of a sudden 15k of my life is gone while im dodge rolling all by my lonesome. Curse went off and VD and I died.

I refused to use the set because of this. But recently I said why not?? Since using it, I have saw the set proc EARLY on 1v1 fights and end up doing massive dmg to the person and then my next hit or skill gets the KB. I've also saw where a HUGE chunk of their life is suddenly gone and they blow up! Just while doing my normal skill cycle and it actually surprised me how fast the person died.

All the people defending this set are most likely using it and do not want it fixed.

Mike0987 · May 2016

5 times just today, dead from viscous death. Not a single other player around yet died from 10k+ VD damage and then was hit for a kill shot from a light attack. Tired of running back to keeps because of this exploit/bug. Will be removing ALL I have for sale and deconstructing.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TWtVjwAFLXI&ebc=ANyPxKrWKyUvaMsPnDl-36vAazc6CigKdEkCCrnMRkHTHkuO2nk2w9JUHtjg0M6MGz0d9xbzRIFzpJMKFmd1WQ8s7zJ4NOfqLg

Stratforge · May 2016

^lol awesome

Related: I have seen plenty of videos where people thought they died to VD but actually it was just the visual bug. The only real testing of it I've seen showed it wasn't actually proc'ing early. I trust the PC players who tested this with addons etc over some angry PS4 players' anecdotes.

Waffennacht · May 2016

It's NOT bugged. EoS.

Crom_CCCXVI · June 2016

GOT YA.... You can all apologize now for mocking my because I simply told the truth, without trying to act like the smartest guy in the room.
. Been waiting 3 weeks for this to happen again. This time I was hit twice, but still by myself, no one else around and CLEAR AS DAY.
I don't lie.

All your little "tests" don't mean much when your actually playing.

I didn't mean to offend the PC players on their little tiny screens, now let me go back to my comfortable couch my 75" HD screen, with surround sound in my living room.....

Crom_CCCXVI · June 2016

These pics are small thru photobucket. Thought it would be easier to upload.

What you have is my health at 29906
- I am firing siege myself from the corner of a keep. The defender who is running two siege hits me for
10210 and 13854... for a total of 10210 + 13854 = 24064
AND BOOM, VD Procs and I am dead.

Maybe some of you "experts" in the forum should be a little nicer.

Sharee · June 2016

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

GOT YA.... You can all apologize now for mocking my because I simply told the truth, without trying to act like the smartest guy in the room.
. Been waiting 3 weeks for this to happen again. This time I was hit twice, but still by myself, no one else around and CLEAR AS DAY.
I don't lie.
All your little "tests" don't mean much when your actually playing.

I didn't mean to offend the PC players on their little tiny screens, now let me go back to my 75" screen, with surround sound in my living room.....

You were hit by an execute ability while at 20% health, the ability killed you, VD explosion happened at the same time the execute ability landed (so visually while you still seemed to have 20% health left), you saw the effect on yourself while you thought you were still alive(but were not), you misinterpret this to mean "it was the VD explosion that killed me"(when in fact it was the execute ability that did), the bugged UI that shows VD on death recap when it shouldn't reinforces your wrong conclusion, and you come back here reporting your 'clear as day' finding, which are incorrect again. That's what the real truth is.

Crom_CCCXVI · June 2016

Oh stop........
Wow. Do you need to see the video?

Since when does a Trebuchet have an "execute ability"? This is pathetic. Why are you so willing to believe there is a bugged ui, but the idea of a bug in the set is just unfathomable to you? Why? because you couldn't recreate it in a controlled environment? because someone said they ran a test?

I'm not saying it does it every time, but it's really just stupid to deny what I just showed you.

SERIOUSLY?
Are you saying, he fired two trebuchet's, then ran down off the top of the keep, climbed up the steps behing me and hit me with "assasins blade" or something at the exact same time as the trebuchet he fired hit me?

Sharee · June 2016

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

These pics are small thru photobucket. Thought it would be easier to upload.

What you have is my health at 29906
- I am firing siege myself from the corner of a keep. The defender who is running two siege hits me for
10210 and 13854... for a total of 10210 + 13854 = 24064
AND BOOM, VD Procs and I am dead.

Maybe some of you "experts" in the forum should be a little nicer.

This is how reliable death recap is:

If a proc attached to a normal hit (that delivers the proc) carries enough damage to kill you by itself, only the proc damage is shown on death recap, even tho you got hit by the normal hit as well.

In your case, you got hit by something, that something killed you proccing VD, but only the VD was shown on the recap, just like the above screenshot only shows the camo hunter proc but not the hit that delivered it.

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

SERIOUSLY?
Are you saying, he fired two trebuchet's, then ran down off the top of the keep, climbed up the steps behing me and hit me with "assasins blade" or something at the exact same time as the trebuchet he fired hit me?

I wrote that reply before you posted the screenshots, so i wrote in general terms. In this particular case, it wasn't an execute ability but (most likely) another siege hit.

Crom_CCCXVI · June 2016

Maybe the actual game isn't reliable, and people should stop just being spoon fed the UI excuse.

A month ago, I was in the field just North of Sejanus. A single ballista bolt, I saw it fired, I watch it hit..... (it just hit harder than expected). I died from the VD explosion. There was not another player within miles.

That one was clearer than this one. But everyone said "oh your a liar, get a screenshot".... now that I have a screenshot, still not good enough.

Sharee · June 2016

[nevermind]

Mike0987 · June 2016

If I could figure out how to upload a screenshot I would show you one were a guy called Apoptosis357 on his level 18 character hit VD twice and killed about 10 V16's instantly. And recently theres been several players who seem to have this unlimited amount of ultima since they hit you 6-7 times in a row with their ultima abilities. Things are not right in the world of PVP...