Something I wish I would have known about soul gems

Kingpindragon · June 2016

I decided to level a few middle level characters and check out the random "regular" dungeon tool. The scaling was nice, but I went in thinking my soul gems were good. Turned out I needed "grand" soul gems.

Since I don't PvP with my middle level characters I looked like a complete jerk when my team mates died (same level as I btw).

I tried buying grand soul gems and kept force-porting back to the dungeon before I could get to a merchant. Just glad I had a laid back team when I learned that lesson.

For future reference, I think ZOS' Activity Finder "memo" they should let new players know they will need "grand soul gems".

Ravinsild · June 2016

Oh ***, thanks for the heads up man. I had no idea. +1 for the PSA.

AlnilamE · June 2016

Yes. I found that out the first time I went to Cyrodiil.

Same thing with battle-leveled zones.

The good thing is, if you kill a boss in the dungeon he should be dropping grand soul gems too.

Dromede · June 2016

Learnt it the hard way on my level 40 toon. Oh well, live and learn. At least bosses in the group dungeons drop them, so eventually you stock them up.

Solariken · June 2016

Better yet, they should just make grand soul gems drop at all levels and be the only gems capable of resurrecting players. It really isn't necessary to tie soul gems to character level ESPECIALLY since ZOS has moved to zone scaling for DLC (which is awesome).

Lesser gems can drop too, but they would be either vendor trash or used to charge weapons.

@ZOS_RichLambert

Kingpindragon · June 2016

Solariken wrote: »

Better yet, they should just make grand soul gems drop at all levels and be the only gems capable of resurrecting players. It really isn't necessary to tie soul gems to character level ESPECIALLY since ZOS has moved to zone scaling for DLC (which is awesome).

Lesser gems can drop too, but they would be either vendor trash or used to charge weapons.

@ZOS_RichLambert

That is a pretty solid idea. All my characters have to have to have "grand" gems anyways. I think if they must keep the lesser gems (for lore purposes), they could tie them to the percentage of health/resources a player resurrects - although that would be redundant.

Lower level weapon charges to save gold.

Phinix1 · June 2016

Just make it so that when you are scaled, any gem normally large enough for your base level would work on targets at the level you were scaled to.

Make soul gems scale with you, in other words.

Taleof2Cities · June 2016

It wouldn't have hurt to ask the dungeon group members if they had grand soul gems after the first wipe (I know ... I know ... hindsight is 20/20).

Two nights ago I spent over an hour in vCOA because one of the group members, sporting a measly 14K health, was too modest to ask if anyone had food.

After about 10 wipes against Skoria, and rezzes in between the wipes, said player finally asked and received food. We then completed the dungeon on the very next try ...

Nestor · June 2016

Yes, there is no shame in asking for help. We have all gone to a dungeon and forgot something or forgot to stock up on something, whether it be food, or repair kits or tripots or something. It happens to everyone, whether want to admit it or not.

However as far as the Soul Gems, it would be nice to have the game tell us that we need them. For example, a low level character who has no alts would have no way, or need, to buy Grand Soul Gems. Well you can buy them from Guild Stores, but not NPC Merchants until your in Caldwells Silver. Or, make it so we can rez using gems based on our base level. It would even be OK if we could not rez others if we did not have the proper gems in this case.

Riffler · June 2016

Soul gems are now pretty pointless; after your first dungeon run you're just going to be amassing more and more of them unless you're in the habit of endlessly wiping. Not only do bosses drop them, you get a few as part of the random dungeon reward. None of my characters has less than a full stack of grand soul gems. They're an annoyance to new players, irrelevant to everyone else; either remove the need for them or give them some other use or value.

Kingpindragon · June 2016

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

It wouldn't have hurt to ask the dungeon group members if they had grand soul gems after the first wipe (I know ... I know ... hindsight is 20/20).

Two nights ago I spent over an hour in vCOA because one of the group members, sporting a measly 14K health, was too modest to ask if anyone had food.

After about 10 wipes against Skoria, and rezzes in between the wipes, said player finally asked and received food. We then completed the dungeon on the very next try ...

Oh yeah, I definitely asked. The problem was that the group was roughly around lvl 30 and couldn't spare extras. It wasn't a big deal, it was incentive "to not die"

The next dungeon was good to go, since I have a veteran main with like 400 Grand gems.

Smitch_59 · June 2016

Duh! Now I understand why I couldn't resurrect my level 40 sorc in Old Orsinium the other day. I didn't have any grand soul gems with me. Wish I had known this before I went in.

MasterSpatula · June 2016

But, when you are in a dungeon scaled up to CP16, Grand Soul Gems drop like crazy. Unless RNGesus really hated you, you should have looted a few before you got to anything that might kill you.

Yinmaigao · June 2016

Better question is: why the hell do we so have so many different kinds?

Serves no purpose. Streamline it already zos!

Thnx! ♡♡♡♡

Ep1kMalware · June 2016

its not too bad because I have loafs of them. most people these days hav3 plenty to spare if you need q few.

ArchMikem · June 2016

I've never done a dungeon as a non-vet character anyway, and once I get to Vet1 I just start stockpiling as many Grand Soul Gems I come across. The passive that gives you a chance to automatically fill a soul gem is also real nice to have. Saves you a lot of money.

SirAndy · June 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

Make soul gems scale with you, in other words.

SublimeSparo · June 2016

Yea I got put with a L10 and L11 DD in possibly their first dungeon the other day, and after seeing them wayshrining after dying and not being able to res others, i just split a stack of grand soul gems and gave em 25 each.

SublimeSparo · June 2016

MasterSpatula wrote: »

But, when you are in a dungeon scaled up to CP16, Grand Soul Gems drop like crazy. Unless RNGesus really hated you, you should have looted a few before you got to anything that might kill you.

As far as I am aware only boss mobs drop grand soul gems in scaled dungeons

Sharee · June 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

But, when you are in a dungeon scaled up to CP16, Grand Soul Gems drop like crazy. Unless RNGesus really hated you, you should have looted a few before you got to anything that might kill you.

As far as I am aware only boss mobs drop grand soul gems in scaled dungeons

I don't know what drops them, but on my newest DK who started tanking group finder dungeons at level 10, i ended up with a sh.load of grand soulgems in my inventory after a while. Certainly more than the total # of bosses i killed.

SublimeSparo · June 2016

Sharee wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

But, when you are in a dungeon scaled up to CP16, Grand Soul Gems drop like crazy. Unless RNGesus really hated you, you should have looted a few before you got to anything that might kill you.

As far as I am aware only boss mobs drop grand soul gems in scaled dungeons

I don't know what drops them, but on my newest DK who started tanking group finder dungeons at level 10, i ended up with a sh.load of grand soulgems in my inventory after a while. Certainly more than the total # of bosses i killed.

Chests, bosses and merchants are the most common places to get them. You get 5 per random daily dungeon too. Enchanter writs also give empty ones, as can chests.

Enodoc · June 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

Just make it so that when you are scaled, any gem normally large enough for your base level would work on targets at the level you were scaled to.

Make soul gems scale with you, in other words.

Absolutely this. All other consumables scale with you when you are battle-levelled, it makes no sense that soul gems don't scale too.

Rune_Relic · June 2016

Solariken wrote: »

Better yet, they should just make grand soul gems drop at all levels and be the only gems capable of resurrecting players. It really isn't necessary to tie soul gems to character level ESPECIALLY since ZOS has moved to zone scaling for DLC (which is awesome).

Lesser gems can drop too, but they would be either vendor trash or used to charge weapons.

@ZOS_RichLambert

Another +1 ...Nice idea.

Molag_Crow · June 2016

Whaaat? oh yeah, my Vet 3 Sorc had to buy a few soul gems with Alliance Points just to res members in Veteran pledges.... lol

failkiwib16_ESO · June 2016

I once showed up at duelling site in Cyrodiil, during 1.5 patch .... with my level 10 sorc and realized I couldn't rez around without grand soul gems, so since then all my lowbie chars carry grand soul gems.

I asked a slimy lizard to kill me, went back to bank and slowpoke rode all the way back to duelling site. It must have taken me 20min+ because my horse was so slow!