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Has anyone done anything with a Magicka DK with the changes to Heavy Armor?

Bandit1215
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Or is magicka DK still trash?
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  • Acsvf
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    And why exactly are you wearing heavy armor on a Magicka DK?
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  • Bandit1215
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    Acsvf wrote: »
    And why exactly are you wearing heavy armor on a Magicka DK?

    Uh ok, so you clearly haven't played a Magicka DK so this isn't exactly a thread for you mate.
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  • Malkorga
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    I have been using heavy armor just to try it out. I mostly do delves and world bosses and although i have more physical and spell resistance, i still have about the same feel as when i was using light armor before DB.

    I am currently using 5 piece Julianos and 2 piece / weap Kagrenac (to compensate for magica recovery). When i get the Narien'th shoulders i will use that set and someday get the malestrom staff.



    Edit to correct typo / grammar
    Edited by Malkorga on June 7, 2016 2:54PM
  • Acsvf
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    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    Acsvf wrote: »
    And why exactly are you wearing heavy armor on a Magicka DK?

    Uh ok, so you clearly haven't played a Magicka DK so this isn't exactly a thread for you mate.
    The question stands- please don't attempt to dodge it with thinly veiled insults.
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  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Acsvf wrote: »
    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    Acsvf wrote: »
    And why exactly are you wearing heavy armor on a Magicka DK?

    Uh ok, so you clearly haven't played a Magicka DK so this isn't exactly a thread for you mate.
    The question stands- please don't attempt to dodge it with thinly veiled insults.

    Because people with brains try to make things work in this game. People who only follow the streamer of choice with their cookie cutter builds make comments like this.
    Edited by clayandaudrey_ESO on June 7, 2016 5:54PM
  • markc01
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    Agree, I have 2 Magika Heavy Armor DKs to try different things and to see how I can increase pvp survivability. Let me know what you guys find out about the changes. Not sure why Acsvf doesn't get this... lol.

    mc
  • Bandit1215
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    Acsvf wrote: »
    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    Acsvf wrote: »
    And why exactly are you wearing heavy armor on a Magicka DK?

    Uh ok, so you clearly haven't played a Magicka DK so this isn't exactly a thread for you mate.
    The question stands- please don't attempt to dodge it with thinly veiled insults.

    Because people with brains try to make things work in this game. People who only follow the steamer of choice with their cookie cutter builds make comments like this.

    Yup, basically sumed up what else I wanted to say.
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  • Bandit1215
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    markc01 wrote: »
    Agree, I have 2 Magika Heavy Armor DKs to try different things and to see how I can increase pvp survivability. Let me know what you guys find out about the changes. Not sure why Acsvf doesn't get this... lol.

    mc

    I think running 5 heavy and 2 light or even 7 heavy with 5 magnus/Julianos with Maulbeth would be a good build because it would provide decent spell damage and absolutely phenomenal heals. I know that this set is broken, but I don't care because Mag DK is by far one of the worst setups in the game so I think they have an excuse to be using it.
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  • Rainingblood
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    I only PvP and I've been trying out 5 HA, 2 LA. I've liked it so far because I tend to YOLO a lot and your SP increases from being hit. I can focus on some sustainability and know that in combat i'll usually be getting a 200 point buffs to my SP.

    That being said, I was hoping to get a little more survivability and I feel like I still need to invest into the same defensive CPs.

    TL;DR- IMO, the passive benefits are fair, but still better than they used to be for magicka DKs, but they should be better. They need to buff magicka regen so you don't feel locked in to having a staff on your 2nd bar.
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  • Moglijuana
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    I'm curious to see if anyone has done some stuff with the new updates to heavy armor as well. However, I've spent millions on gear on my Magicka DK and Light Armor has always ended up being the best for sustain/damage imo. It's practically impossible to kill things on your own in heavy armor as a mag dk...Spectre's Eye + Potentates looks interesting though. I may be trying that out.
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  • hrothbern
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    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    Or is magicka DK still trash?

    @Bandit1215 ,
    Did you see this vid of @DUTCH_REAPER of his mDK build changed from LA to HA ?
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3044681/#Comment_3044681
    "I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU
  • hrothbern
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    Bandit1215 wrote: »
    Or is magicka DK still trash?

    @Bandit1215 ,
    Did you see this vid of @DUTCH_REAPER of his mDK build changed from LA to HA ?
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3044681/#Comment_3044681
    https://youtu.be/l1b9xx_e8Fk
    

    Enjoy and please give your input there are many better players than I and I just wanted to help my fellow mDKers out there :wink:
    Edited by hrothbern on June 7, 2016 5:07PM
    "I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    HA is completely workable for a viable PVP build on a mDK. I am currently trying out 5 HA pve for VMSA on my trials dps DK. Just need a few more mats and will be good to go for testing it out.

    (Still no dang VMSA resto staff :neutral: )
    Edited by DUTCH_REAPER on June 7, 2016 5:15PM
  • Armitas
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    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 29k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.
    Edited by Armitas on June 8, 2016 12:51PM
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  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Yes this.
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested.
    Edited by ThatNeonZebraAgain on June 7, 2016 8:22PM
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  • Ishammael
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    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.

    What's your max Magicka at with that set up?
    Edited by Moglijuana on June 7, 2016 7:59PM
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  • Armitas
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.

    Yep^

    My max magicka is at 23,000. You could go higher of you want by losing health. What cool about blackrose is gives you all the health and stam you need so you can magicka everything up.

    I mix and match my monster set a lot. Solo i use malubeth, in a raid I use 1 kena 1 bloodspawn for spell and stam recovery. You get your spell damage up and then pop that spell pot and boom you're a beast. I might do a complete thread on it in a month when I have had more time to fine tune it. But that is the gist of it, and it works pretty well.

    The biggest deal is that weapon enchant. Put it on your front bar and poisons on your back bar and gain a ton of damage with also having poisons available.
    Edited by Armitas on June 7, 2016 8:47PM
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  • Ishammael
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.

    What's your max Magicka at with that set up?

    You can hit 35k no sweat w/ a magicka Race (Breton or Elf). 40k if you're willing to slot Inner Light.

    Have to be careful to consider your sustain with the remaining gearing options. DK benefits greatly from tri-stat food which is what I like to run -- which then basically requires a couple of magicka cost redux glyphs on your jewelry. If you want the spell damage glyphs you likely have to run drink. Up to your play preference.

    Regardless, this isn't the setup I favor. The OP, and all magicka DKs should strongly consider 5-pc Transmute (super cheap), 5H Seducer (craftable), and 5-pc Wurm (expensive and hard to get). Between those three and 5-pc Black Rose you can come up with several nice gear options. I think Black Rose is strictly superior to Kagrenac and therefore never consider Kag's.

    Key here is that mDK is still pretty weak in a lot of ways -- need to be sure to maximize the efficiency of the gear you choose. 5/5/2 is the most efficient setup. Black Rose is probably the single most efficient set in the game (except for maybe Seducer). Also, mDK is basically a hybrid -- you have to spec for high stam and some form of stam regen, even though you'll only use magicka skills.
    Armitas wrote: »

    My max magicka is at 23,000.

    Do you mean 33k, Armitas? Cause 23k is really low.
  • Armitas
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.

    What's your max Magicka at with that set up?

    You can hit 35k no sweat w/ a magicka Race (Breton or Elf). 40k if you're willing to slot Inner Light.

    Have to be careful to consider your sustain with the remaining gearing options. DK benefits greatly from tri-stat food which is what I like to run -- which then basically requires a couple of magicka cost redux glyphs on your jewelry. If you want the spell damage glyphs you likely have to run drink. Up to your play preference.

    Regardless, this isn't the setup I favor. The OP, and all magicka DKs should strongly consider 5-pc Transmute (super cheap), 5H Seducer (craftable), and 5-pc Wurm (expensive and hard to get). Between those three and 5-pc Black Rose you can come up with several nice gear options. I think Black Rose is strictly superior to Kagrenac and therefore never consider Kag's.

    Key here is that mDK is still pretty weak in a lot of ways -- need to be sure to maximize the efficiency of the gear you choose. 5/5/2 is the most efficient setup. Black Rose is probably the single most efficient set in the game (except for maybe Seducer). Also, mDK is basically a hybrid -- you have to spec for high stam and some form of stam regen, even though you'll only use magicka skills.
    Armitas wrote: »

    My max magicka is at 23,000.

    Do you mean 33k, Armitas? Cause 23k is really low.

    I wish I meant 33k but I chose poorly on race. I'm locked at 23k. Can't go any higher without sacrificing something. I could sacrifice health but I'm keeping it high for Dragons blood base value. Coagulating dragon blood is deeply tied to my setup and actually begins to pull its weight given its side buffs under the right circumstances. Health recovery with drinks and DB, draconic passives, powerlash heal, draw essence, burning embers, rapid regen, it all starts to combine into a lot of automatic healing.
    Edited by Armitas on June 7, 2016 9:29PM
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  • Moglijuana
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.

    What's your max Magicka at with that set up?

    You can hit 35k no sweat w/ a magicka Race (Breton or Elf). 40k if you're willing to slot Inner Light.

    Have to be careful to consider your sustain with the remaining gearing options. DK benefits greatly from tri-stat food which is what I like to run -- which then basically requires a couple of magicka cost redux glyphs on your jewelry. If you want the spell damage glyphs you likely have to run drink. Up to your play preference.

    Regardless, this isn't the setup I favor. The OP, and all magicka DKs should strongly consider 5-pc Transmute (super cheap), 5H Seducer (craftable), and 5-pc Wurm (expensive and hard to get). Between those three and 5-pc Black Rose you can come up with several nice gear options. I think Black Rose is strictly superior to Kagrenac and therefore never consider Kag's.

    Key here is that mDK is still pretty weak in a lot of ways -- need to be sure to maximize the efficiency of the gear you choose. 5/5/2 is the most efficient setup. Black Rose is probably the single most efficient set in the game (except for maybe Seducer). Also, mDK is basically a hybrid -- you have to spec for high stam and some form of stam regen, even though you'll only use magicka skills.
    Armitas wrote: »

    My max magicka is at 23,000.

    Do you mean 33k, Armitas? Cause 23k is really low.

    Yea, I've learned a lot by only playing my Mag DK for almost a year. I have 17k stam on mine and run bloodspawn + stam immovable pots. Currently I have 37.9k Mag, 24k Health, 16.9k Stam, 2.3k SD (unbuffed), 1500 recovery (bloodspawn lets me go this low), and 2.1k crit resist all with tri stat food.

    But of course, this is with 5 Light Kags, 2 blood spawn, 3 will power( 2 SD, 1 rec), and two piece magnus for my s&sh. It's the best setup that has worked for me (in Thieves Guild of course as I am on console).

    I'm just looking to switch things up and am looking for some more survivability as DB's TTK looks MUCHHHH faster than TG was from what I've been seeing on streams. Currently I'm leaning towards Tavas favor + Potentates and just push for an unlimited bat swarm basically lol. The lack of SD from not using Kags seems to be made up with heavy armor passives + weap enchants now.... I wish getting gold gear wasn't such a chore =/. All these dam updates stir the pot too much for my liking.
    Edited by Moglijuana on June 7, 2016 9:28PM
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  • BlackMadara
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.

    What's your max Magicka at with that set up?

    You can hit 35k no sweat w/ a magicka Race (Breton or Elf). 40k if you're willing to slot Inner Light.

    Have to be careful to consider your sustain with the remaining gearing options. DK benefits greatly from tri-stat food which is what I like to run -- which then basically requires a couple of magicka cost redux glyphs on your jewelry. If you want the spell damage glyphs you likely have to run drink. Up to your play preference.

    Regardless, this isn't the setup I favor. The OP, and all magicka DKs should strongly consider 5-pc Transmute (super cheap), 5H Seducer (craftable), and 5-pc Wurm (expensive and hard to get). Between those three and 5-pc Black Rose you can come up with several nice gear options. I think Black Rose is strictly superior to Kagrenac and therefore never consider Kag's.

    Key here is that mDK is still pretty weak in a lot of ways -- need to be sure to maximize the efficiency of the gear you choose. 5/5/2 is the most efficient setup. Black Rose is probably the single most efficient set in the game (except for maybe Seducer). Also, mDK is basically a hybrid -- you have to spec for high stam and some form of stam regen, even though you'll only use magicka skills.
    Armitas wrote: »

    My max magicka is at 23,000.

    Do you mean 33k, Armitas? Cause 23k is really low.

    What do you think about Tava's? It allows your ult to be your regen. I'm it in light atm due dodging throwing off the constitution passive in heavy. Also, why rose>kags? Does the constitution boost outweigh sd and regen?

    What do you think about engulfing flames in pvp? I see a lot of mag dks not running it, but 10% fire damage boost is significant plus it can be used to pull nb out stealth. I am a bit biased though, because my current build focuses on dropping as many meteors on people as possible (no monster sets sadly).
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    I have no complaints with mine. It has regen at 2k ish, SD at 3k buffed, and resistance on both phy and spell.
    And I use Kags.

    Really important to build to your play style is bottom line.
    Edited by DUTCH_REAPER on June 8, 2016 12:29AM
  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    @BlackMadara tavas favor is strong. It just forces you to keep shuffle active.
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    @BlackMadara tavas favor is strong. It just forces you to keep shuffle active.

    I use tava on my Stam DK. You use it on your mDK?
  • Armitas
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I think its better. Im reaching 3k spell damage while sitting at 29k health and 30k physical resist and full sustain on drinks and blackrose constitution. I couldn't come close to that in TG.

    Mind going over your build a bit more? I'm very interested. Also, do you have V15 or V16 Black Rose? Been trying to get V16 but it's so expensive and pretty rare (at least in guild stores).

    5k TV stones per piece for impen Black Rose. Super cheap.

    Black Rose plus willpower plus 2pc torugs is 153+190+129+1335 = 1807 base. The new dmg enchants for weapons is 350. Wrath gives you 200 with basically full uptime in a fight. Now you're at 2350 and you have a monster set to fuss with, jewelry enchants, and a mundus to pick.

    What's your max Magicka at with that set up?

    You can hit 35k no sweat w/ a magicka Race (Breton or Elf). 40k if you're willing to slot Inner Light.

    Have to be careful to consider your sustain with the remaining gearing options. DK benefits greatly from tri-stat food which is what I like to run -- which then basically requires a couple of magicka cost redux glyphs on your jewelry. If you want the spell damage glyphs you likely have to run drink. Up to your play preference.

    Regardless, this isn't the setup I favor. The OP, and all magicka DKs should strongly consider 5-pc Transmute (super cheap), 5H Seducer (craftable), and 5-pc Wurm (expensive and hard to get). Between those three and 5-pc Black Rose you can come up with several nice gear options. I think Black Rose is strictly superior to Kagrenac and therefore never consider Kag's.

    Key here is that mDK is still pretty weak in a lot of ways -- need to be sure to maximize the efficiency of the gear you choose. 5/5/2 is the most efficient setup. Black Rose is probably the single most efficient set in the game (except for maybe Seducer). Also, mDK is basically a hybrid -- you have to spec for high stam and some form of stam regen, even though you'll only use magicka skills.
    Armitas wrote: »

    My max magicka is at 23,000.

    Do you mean 33k, Armitas? Cause 23k is really low.


    What do you think about engulfing flames in pvp? I see a lot of mag dks not running it, but 10% fire damage boost is significant plus it can be used to pull nb out stealth. I am a bit biased though, because my current build focuses on dropping as many meteors on people as possible (no monster sets sadly).

    I use engulfing because everything I do is fire. Even at 3k spell power whip alone isnt enough. 10% on basically everything I use plus the damage dot; it definitely shows up in your performance. It will even increase your healing by a bit through heals derived from damage like burning embers. Its really nice with shooting star because its flame damage and you can add empowered chains to that for +10% and +20% damage. The dot is also fire so you can talons them in for the dot. Even better with skoria.

    I use volatile armor for stealthers. Its immediate large aoe and its spammable cheap. Unless they have a lot of stealth speed you can pop them out as soon as they cloak or hunt around for them with it. It also procs skoria if you use it because of the dot
    Edited by Armitas on June 8, 2016 12:49PM
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  • BlackMadara
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    @BlackMadara tavas favor is strong. It just forces you to keep shuffle active.

    I use tava on my Stam DK. You use it on your mDK?

    Yea, I use molten armaments in conjunction with shuffle for a pseudo stam cost reduction and robust willpower rings (not cuz I'm poor or keep getting willpower weapons ahem). It lets me start a fight at about full stam after buffing and get ult fast enough that stam isn't really an issue. I can get a meteor every 30 seconds as long as I keep shuffle up. Leveling a stam DK so I can add minor heroism in there and leap every ten seconds lol.

    @Armitas I really want to do a dot stacking heavy armor skoria build but I don't have the shoulders... stupid cat lady
    Edited by BlackMadara on June 8, 2016 4:07PM
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    @BlackMadara tavas favor is strong. It just forces you to keep shuffle active.

    I use tava on my Stam DK. You use it on your mDK?

    Yea, I use molten armaments in conjunction with shuffle for a pseudo stam cost reduction and robust willpower rings (not cuz I'm poor or keep getting willpower weapons ahem). It lets me start a fight at about full stam after buffing and get ult fast enough that stam isn't really an issue. I can get a meteor every 30 seconds as long as I keep shuffle up. Leveling a stam DK so I can add minor heroism in there and leap every ten seconds lol.

    @Armitas I really want to do a dot stacking heavy armor skoria build but I don't have the shoulders... stupid cat lady

    That's awesome! Lol so gonna throw my Stam tava armor on my mDK and try it! Lol
  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    @BlackMadara tavas favor is strong. It just forces you to keep shuffle active.

    I use tava on my Stam DK. You use it on your mDK?

    @DUTCH_REAPER tavas is one of the sets I use sometimes on my magDK. I think @DKsUnite does as well. It's really strong especially if you use tri stat enchants or robust jewelry. I pop shuffle then igneous shield for some stam return. I'm looking forward to running with v16 potentates, bloodspawn, tavas, and willpower rings (+willpower resto staff on back bar) when DB drops for consoles.
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