Zardayne wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

Start with pick up groups, if they require TS... Just get TS. You don't have to talk, plenty in my guild type only.

Pick up groups are basically your junior high school dances, it's where you wind up meeting people, have a little more freedom to figure out new skills, understand the broadest strokes of group basics.

From there inevitably, someone gets tired of getting hit in the face over their jello pudding, and goes into the "high school" phase, where they make their own guild... Basically of friends they have made in PU group, that they trust are decent enough players. Those friends invite their friends (because at this point they are all in 5 guilds) and then you get your HS click of mid level players that still lean on numbers a little more than skill which is where most of the map is won/lost.

From there we enter the college phase where people start experimenting, small group, making their own guild, dueling, basically any weird pvp scenario... You'll see someone with purple hair doing it. Some still cling to HS working at their faction Applebee's. This seems to be where players start to "come into their own," claiming they understand the world because they have been to their gates and behind the enemies gates and completely understand where and what pvp should be.

By the college level of PVP, players more or less understand in what direction they want to go.... And then real life pvp happens. They have either become their own boss and have made a thriving/flailing pvp guild struggling to make money in a debt driven pvp economy trying to put their khajiits through private school so they have a better life, or they have made it into a cushy big firm, with a luxurious spa and amenities like recognition as map winners and ap bonuses, or you have the professional athlete guild who still runs large enough to get *** done, but small enough to be marveled and declared a model for redguards across the land to look up to.

Then you have your super small group/1vx people.... Who are basically the gopro wearing extreme sports athletes, who only drink redbull... And have been wearing DC sneakers, backwards Pact hats, or Eagle Earrings, since they earned their sponsorship when they defeated more than 3 people, by themselves, and have been searching for that heart pounding fun in game ever since.

Then you reach a level of pvp maturity. Where you can take part in any pvp community, people ask about your build at the 4th of July BBQ while you wear those salmon colored shorts and yellow cuffed button down shirt. Your hair is a little receded from that damn blood spawn helm you wore for years until you decided it was time to hide it in the settings menu.

Long story short, pretty much everyone has to some degree followed this path, learn to be ok with failure, make sure you learn from it, and at the end of the day, never come to the forums and complain that no one is adding you to their group when you have an invite button yourself.

Have fun in Cyrodiil.

First off I even though there is some complaining on my end, no doubt, I'd like to think it was also a suggestion. DC could be a lot more powerful if some of the "leaders" would rise up and harness some of the untapped potential of the lone players out there. There's a lot of them. Like I mentioned earlier which some of the earlier posters decided to disregard and instead leave a *** message in hopes of getting their awesome button mashed, I would try to run some PUGs if I felt I was a bit more experienced to do so. I'm not going to go out there and wrangle a bunch of people into a group who know as much or less than I do and feed points to the enemy. Hell I do that nightly getting ganked by NBs..You know this whole Cyrodiil experience reminds me of trying to get my first safety job after college years ago. I had a hundred resumes out and everytime a potential employer called the first thing they would ask is if I had 5 years of experience. I'd respond no but I've got years of industrial experience to which they'd reply well get 5 years and call us back. I went through this many times and I always ended the call with how can I get experience if no one's willing to give me a shot. I'm not going into my life story but I finally got that shot but it was nothing short of right place right time. You know I'd love to learn more of the ins and outs of eso's PVP so I could then try to lead and I'm sure there are a lot out there that feel the same. Unfortunately I don't have the time due to work and raising grandkids to spend running a guild ( I had my own years ago in multiple games) or champion the cause of being the PUG warband leader. Hell it takes enough time to rad class forums to see what 's changed and what's working every few months. I'd just like to log in on my prime time 7-11 PM central weekdays and most weekends, join a group of pvp orientated folks, and work together to win. There's a lot of folks with 501+ CPs that have way more time than I have. Hopefully someone, someday will figure out how to harness the PUG power.

I'll end by saying I spend what little free time I have researching builds to succeed. I go out, do my best, and if need be I make changes and try again. I fail quite often in ESO (mainly PVP) but I'm old and wise enough to go back to the chalk board, make some changes, and try again. I've been MMO gaming a long time so I know how it works but for the life of me I've never had such difficulties in finding a group in pvp especially when realm pride's at stake. Daoc people used to form up outside and push into enemy territory. Warhammer was the same.Sure you had your guild groups but most fo them would pick up solos if their raid wasn't full. I guess those days are long gone it seems.

I run every voice comm program out there. I'm just waiting for a chance to use it.

Telel wrote: »

Telel has never let their incompetence keep them from leading groups. In fact they have never let their incompetence stop them from doing anything that they demand others do for them.

No, the only things that stop them from doing that is the selfishness of the people who claim they wish to be led, but then refuse to listen. Such people make an already burdensome task most unappealing.

Minno wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Telel has never let their incompetence keep them from leading groups. In fact they have never let their incompetence stop them from doing anything that they demand others do for them.

No, the only things that stop them from doing that is the selfishness of the people who claim they wish to be led, but then refuse to listen. Such people make an already burdensome task most unappealing.

Also this one is already accused of having fleas, and can do without more obvious parasites latching onto them.

But as khajiit requires team speak for any random groups they may lead this results in them very rarely needing to deal with such selfish children. Any that happen to make it past that filter are dealt with swift by means of battle field execution. AKA, right click, kick from group, and then put on ignore.

Yes and I've watched your steams and have heard the frustration first hand lol

I've never seen a tele stream. Should I expect khajiit accents and yarn balls?

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

Start with pick up groups, if they require TS... Just get TS. You don't have to talk, plenty in my guild type only.

Pick up groups are basically your junior high school dances, it's where you wind up meeting people, have a little more freedom to figure out new skills, understand the broadest strokes of group basics.

From there inevitably, someone gets tired of getting hit in the face over their jello pudding, and goes into the "high school" phase, where they make their own guild... Basically of friends they have made in PU group, that they trust are decent enough players. Those friends invite their friends (because at this point they are all in 5 guilds) and then you get your HS click of mid level players that still lean on numbers a little more than skill which is where most of the map is won/lost.

From there we enter the college phase where people start experimenting, small group, making their own guild, dueling, basically any weird pvp scenario... You'll see someone with purple hair doing it. Some still cling to HS working at their faction Applebee's. This seems to be where players start to "come into their own," claiming they understand the world because they have been to their gates and behind the enemies gates and completely understand where and what pvp should be.

By the college level of PVP, players more or less understand in what direction they want to go.... And then real life pvp happens. They have either become their own boss and have made a thriving/flailing pvp guild struggling to make money in a debt driven pvp economy trying to put their khajiits through private school so they have a better life, or they have made it into a cushy big firm, with a luxurious spa and amenities like recognition as map winners and ap bonuses, or you have the professional athlete guild who still runs large enough to get *** done, but small enough to be marveled and declared a model for redguards across the land to look up to.

Then you have your super small group/1vx people.... Who are basically the gopro wearing extreme sports athletes, who only drink redbull... And have been wearing DC sneakers, backwards Pact hats, or Eagle Earrings, since they earned their sponsorship when they defeated more than 3 people, by themselves, and have been searching for that heart pounding fun in game ever since.

Then you reach a level of pvp maturity. Where you can take part in any pvp community, people ask about your build at the 4th of July BBQ while you wear those salmon colored shorts and yellow cuffed button down shirt. Your hair is a little receded from that damn blood spawn helm you wore for years until you decided it was time to hide it in the settings menu.

Long story short, pretty much everyone has to some degree followed this path, learn to be ok with failure, make sure you learn from it, and at the end of the day, never come to the forums and complain that no one is adding you to their group when you have an invite button yourself.

Have fun in Cyrodiil.

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

Start with pick up groups, if they require TS... Just get TS. You don't have to talk, plenty in my guild type only.

Pick up groups are basically your junior high school dances, it's where you wind up meeting people, have a little more freedom to figure out new skills, understand the broadest strokes of group basics.

From there inevitably, someone gets tired of getting hit in the face over their jello pudding, and goes into the "high school" phase, where they make their own guild... Basically of friends they have made in PU group, that they trust are decent enough players. Those friends invite their friends (because at this point they are all in 5 guilds) and then you get your HS click of mid level players that still lean on numbers a little more than skill which is where most of the map is won/lost.

From there we enter the college phase where people start experimenting, small group, making their own guild, dueling, basically any weird pvp scenario... You'll see someone with purple hair doing it. Some still cling to HS working at their faction Applebee's. This seems to be where players start to "come into their own," claiming they understand the world because they have been to their gates and behind the enemies gates and completely understand where and what pvp should be.

By the college level of PVP, players more or less understand in what direction they want to go.... And then real life pvp happens. They have either become their own boss and have made a thriving/flailing pvp guild struggling to make money in a debt driven pvp economy trying to put their khajiits through private school so they have a better life, or they have made it into a cushy big firm, with a luxurious spa and amenities like recognition as map winners and ap bonuses, or you have the professional athlete guild who still runs large enough to get *** done, but small enough to be marveled and declared a model for redguards across the land to look up to.

Then you have your super small group/1vx people.... Who are basically the gopro wearing extreme sports athletes, who only drink redbull... And have been wearing DC sneakers, backwards Pact hats, or Eagle Earrings, since they earned their sponsorship when they defeated more than 3 people, by themselves, and have been searching for that heart pounding fun in game ever since.

Then you reach a level of pvp maturity. Where you can take part in any pvp community, people ask about your build at the 4th of July BBQ while you wear those salmon colored shorts and yellow cuffed button down shirt. Your hair is a little receded from that damn blood spawn helm you wore for years until you decided it was time to hide it in the settings menu.

Long story short, pretty much everyone has to some degree followed this path, learn to be ok with failure, make sure you learn from it, and at the end of the day, never come to the forums and complain that no one is adding you to their group when you have an invite button yourself.

Have fun in Cyrodiil.

PosternHouse wrote: »

How do I leave Cyrodiil?