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Zardayne
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I'm curious as to what it takes to get a group out there. For two days this weekend I spammed LFG and I got one small group that broke apart in 30 minutes. There's a ton of players out there, I know a lot of them are in groups, but no one's inviting. I see quite a few others LFG as well, shouting over and over. Even though I've pvp'ed for years in other games I don't feel qualified in ESO yet to lead my own group. Unfortunately nowadays I've moved from semi hardcore gamer to a slightly more experienced casual player (20 hours a week). I'm still trying to figure out how to beat nightblades off of me. You add herding a group of cats from point A to B and I've instantly got more stress than work. I want to know..why is it an act of GOD to get a group in PVP? Is it not the "cool" thing to do, meaning running in a 20 man group. Is the single player Skyrim shifted ESO running over into the siege dominated pvp game? This game on PC was sold to us by showing the huge battles and castle sieges. Yes they've added some stuff to try to get us to spread out (Vicious Death) but I don't believe they said please don't group up or reroll nightblades only with your friends and gank. From some of you on Trueflame that play nightly is this how it is normally or did I just do some pvp on a bad weekend. I stayed on DC when my main guild and at one time friends began/stayed on EP because I knew from day one DC was going to be outnumbered. I like playing the underdog. I'm here to help with the balance even if I'm just one player. I'm here to crush our enemies or try (NBs I'm looking at you!). I joined another guild only to find out they don't pvp as much as I'd like and their elite section of pvp sounds like another job that I really don't need. Tell me DC...can we start forming more pvp groups and retake what is rightfully ours or is it time for me to go home and move on..
  • Zyle
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    I don't know why everyone expects there to be a group running 24/7 picking up 100% of everyone who says LFG in zone. It's a ridiculous expectation.

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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    If you're so determined to have LFG running, run them yourself. Maybe after doing that you'll realize why no one wants to run LFG groups.

    You're better off trying to find a guild that fits your playstyle.
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    Tyrus Telvanni - Vet Dunmer DK (AD)
    Al Donius Bundy - Vet Imperial NB (AD)
    Aldonius Brutus - Vet Orc DK (DC)
  • ataggs
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    You may want to check the "Know your enemy" thread. Lots of great info on most of the active guilds. Even though a guild may run every night, very few would require that of their members.
      Confirmed Casual
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    • Templar EP- Zoola
    • Templar AD- Old Zoola
  • MichYodias
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    DC is only for 1 v Xing.
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    Minch Yoda V16 DK EP
    YODA-ONE v16 Sorc EP
    Yoda-San v16 NB EP
    Yodias V16 Temp healbot EP
    Human Centipad V16 Stamplar EP
    Yodai V16 AD Sorc
    Woodland Critters v4 DC stamblade
  • Zardayne
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    Zyle wrote: »
    I don't know why everyone expects there to be a group running 24/7 picking up 100% of everyone who says LFG in zone. It's a ridiculous expectation.

    This wasn't some off hours. This was mid afternoon though early evening on a weekend. There were a ton of folks around. Hell I stood in the middle of a large siege asking if there was a group for me while I healed my ass off keeping folks alive only to met with silence.

    Just so you know, this wasn't the only time this has happened. I've been here since the beginning and it happens a lot.I can understand early morning/late night but not prime time.

    As I said Radiohead if I felt I was a bit more knowledgeable with ESOs PVP and a bit more of a people person I might try my hand at leading. Without the knowledge I need to succeed I'm fine with following and I'll follow a group through hell and back playing my part.

    Perhaps you and Ataggs are right. Finding that guild is key..
  • Crispen_Longbow
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    Zardayne wrote: »
    From some of you on Trueflame that play nightly is this how it is normally or did I just do some pvp on a bad weekend. There's a ton of players out there, I know a lot of them are in groups, but no one's inviting.
    From what I have read looks like you play around primetime on TF/NA PC? If so you will want to look to join up with BoD, HoD, or Guard. Those are the 3 main DC guilds during primetime.

    Zardayne wrote: »
    For two days this weekend I spammed LFG and I got one small group that broke apart in 30 minutes.
    Shadowgrabber is usually the pug herder for DC so he is usually picking up anyone that is spamming "LFG". You could join his group. I will warn you though Shadowsgrabber is viewed as easy AP for AD and EP. I would imagine moral in these types of groups goes down as they are consistently wiped. They are usually nothing more then a bunch of solos in the same general area. Any moderate PVP guild will rip them apart. This is also the reason most Pick Up Groups (PUG) don't last very long.

    Zardayne wrote: »
    You add herding a group of cats from point A to B and I've instantly got more stress than work. I want to know..why is it an act of GOD to get a group in PVP?
    Your own sentence before about herding cats answers your question of why no groups. Seek out the PVP guilds, check out my thread here "https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266730/pc-na-trueflame-and-haderus-know-thy-enemy-an-overview-of-guilds/p1" to find the contacts for the DC guild GMs and Officers to get an invite or at least a trial run to see if you like it.

    Hope that helps you.

    PS
    Zardayne wrote: »
    I'm here to crush our enemies or try (NBs I'm looking at you!).
    I'm one of those NBs you are trying to crush ;)

    Thanks
    Edited by Crispen_Longbow on June 6, 2016 5:03PM
    Crispen Longbow - Daggerfall Covenant (DC): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Blue VE, Khole, LoM, MO)
    Crispen Longboww - Aldmeri Dominion (AD): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - Crispen's House of Pain RIP (KP, Yellow VE, Omni)
    Crispen Longbow-EP - Ebonheart Pact (EP): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Red VE)
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    DC doesn't normally random group people . You have to join a guild and listen in teamspeak to group movements . If this isn't your thing you'll be left in LFG forest and you'll probably grow stronger and more independent as most DC lost do .

    There are a few exceptions . Theodore , Shadowgrabber and Servitus sometimes run non teamspeak pug groups . Despite their efforts , they do become big balls of free AP to the organized enemy .
  • Lyar09
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    Why don't you just start your own group instead of complaining on the forums?
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  • Zheg
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    Run with a guild, you'll pick up knowledge exponentially faster than solo or in lfg groups. Pay attention to your raid lead and how/when he/she makes calls, then try leading yourself. If you enjoy it and are moderately successful, feel free to continue with the guild, run lfg, or start your own guild.

    Without a lead, being in a group is utterly pointless for lfgs. Few want to raid lead, few are good at it, and most losses are on you. This is compounded when you have randoms that don't listen, run subpar group builds, are inexperienced, and unbalanced group comps. That's why you don't see lfg groups.
  • Mako1132
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    Just wait for the inevitable faction stack at the nearest keep and type it in /yell. That way it's a little more obvious to them and the people who have zone chat turned off, and you don't miss anyone anyway because they're all within /y distance.
  • Crispen_Longbow
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Without a lead, being in a group is utterly pointless for lfgs. Few want to raid lead, few are good at it, and most losses are on you.

    Famous last words for raid leads are usually. "We are probably going to die here but..."
    Crispen Longbow - Daggerfall Covenant (DC): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Blue VE, Khole, LoM, MO)
    Crispen Longboww - Aldmeri Dominion (AD): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - Crispen's House of Pain RIP (KP, Yellow VE, Omni)
    Crispen Longbow-EP - Ebonheart Pact (EP): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Red VE)
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    I recommend typing "looking for organized pvp group with TS". Also if you need a pvp guild shoot me a pm and we will send an invite. :wink:

    I understand your pain btw lol
  • Minno
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Without a lead, being in a group is utterly pointless for lfgs. Few want to raid lead, few are good at it, and most losses are on you.

    Famous last words for raid leads are usually. "We are probably going to die here but..."

    And the best:
    " Honestly, I thought we were going to die here".
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • Satiar
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    I end up saying those phrases a lot, but it's less boring than sitting in a keep behind LoS or spending 5 minutes waiting for a stealth bomb.
    Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
    Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost



  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    Start with pick up groups, if they require TS... Just get TS. You don't have to talk, plenty in my guild type only.

    Pick up groups are basically your junior high school dances, it's where you wind up meeting people, have a little more freedom to figure out new skills, understand the broadest strokes of group basics.

    From there inevitably, someone gets tired of getting hit in the face over their jello pudding, and goes into the "high school" phase, where they make their own guild... Basically of friends they have made in PU group, that they trust are decent enough players. Those friends invite their friends (because at this point they are all in 5 guilds) and then you get your HS click of mid level players that still lean on numbers a little more than skill which is where most of the map is won/lost.

    From there we enter the college phase where people start experimenting, small group, making their own guild, dueling, basically any weird pvp scenario... You'll see someone with purple hair doing it. Some still cling to HS working at their faction Applebee's. This seems to be where players start to "come into their own," claiming they understand the world because they have been to their gates and behind the enemies gates and completely understand where and what pvp should be.

    By the college level of PVP, players more or less understand in what direction they want to go.... And then real life pvp happens. They have either become their own boss and have made a thriving/flailing pvp guild struggling to make money in a debt driven pvp economy trying to put their khajiits through private school so they have a better life, or they have made it into a cushy big firm, with a luxurious spa and amenities like recognition as map winners and ap bonuses, or you have the professional athlete guild who still runs large enough to get *** done, but small enough to be marveled and declared a model for redguards across the land to look up to.

    Then you have your super small group/1vx people.... Who are basically the gopro wearing extreme sports athletes, who only drink redbull... And have been wearing DC sneakers, backwards Pact hats, or Eagle Earrings, since they earned their sponsorship when they defeated more than 3 people, by themselves, and have been searching for that heart pounding fun in game ever since.

    Then you reach a level of pvp maturity. Where you can take part in any pvp community, people ask about your build at the 4th of July BBQ while you wear those salmon colored shorts and yellow cuffed button down shirt. Your hair is a little receded from that damn blood spawn helm you wore for years until you decided it was time to hide it in the settings menu.

    Long story short, pretty much everyone has to some degree followed this path, learn to be ok with failure, make sure you learn from it, and at the end of the day, never come to the forums and complain that no one is adding you to their group when you have an invite button yourself.

    Have fun in Cyrodiil.
    Rhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
    K-Hole
  • Minno
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Run with a guild, you'll pick up knowledge exponentially faster than solo or in lfg groups. Pay attention to your raid lead and how/when he/she makes calls, then try leading yourself. If you enjoy it and are moderately successful, feel free to continue with the guild, run lfg, or start your own guild.

    Without a lead, being in a group is utterly pointless for lfgs. Few want to raid lead, few are good at it, and most losses are on you. This is compounded when you have randoms that don't listen, run subpar group builds, are inexperienced, and unbalanced group comps. That's why you don't see lfg groups.

    Unless you are the only group on, it's better to fight as a pug group if against a group of good players or larger forces.

    But guild invites is the first stepping stone to a viable pvp experience. After that you can explore 1vx playstyles.

    I think the first rule of cyro still applies to anything you do:
    - accept that you will die and die alot.

    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • NACtron
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    As long as LFG players sacrifice their resistance to teamspeak that will open a window to plenty of PvP guild options. I Led non TS raids for a little while. For raid leads who actually want to accomplish something in cyro non-ts raids will burn you out real fast. You are going to be hard pressed to find any consistentency in who you play with until you get teamspeak and sign up with a guild.
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • Zardayne
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    Start with pick up groups, if they require TS... Just get TS. You don't have to talk, plenty in my guild type only.

    Pick up groups are basically your junior high school dances, it's where you wind up meeting people, have a little more freedom to figure out new skills, understand the broadest strokes of group basics.

    From there inevitably, someone gets tired of getting hit in the face over their jello pudding, and goes into the "high school" phase, where they make their own guild... Basically of friends they have made in PU group, that they trust are decent enough players. Those friends invite their friends (because at this point they are all in 5 guilds) and then you get your HS click of mid level players that still lean on numbers a little more than skill which is where most of the map is won/lost.

    From there we enter the college phase where people start experimenting, small group, making their own guild, dueling, basically any weird pvp scenario... You'll see someone with purple hair doing it. Some still cling to HS working at their faction Applebee's. This seems to be where players start to "come into their own," claiming they understand the world because they have been to their gates and behind the enemies gates and completely understand where and what pvp should be.

    By the college level of PVP, players more or less understand in what direction they want to go.... And then real life pvp happens. They have either become their own boss and have made a thriving/flailing pvp guild struggling to make money in a debt driven pvp economy trying to put their khajiits through private school so they have a better life, or they have made it into a cushy big firm, with a luxurious spa and amenities like recognition as map winners and ap bonuses, or you have the professional athlete guild who still runs large enough to get *** done, but small enough to be marveled and declared a model for redguards across the land to look up to.

    Then you have your super small group/1vx people.... Who are basically the gopro wearing extreme sports athletes, who only drink redbull... And have been wearing DC sneakers, backwards Pact hats, or Eagle Earrings, since they earned their sponsorship when they defeated more than 3 people, by themselves, and have been searching for that heart pounding fun in game ever since.

    Then you reach a level of pvp maturity. Where you can take part in any pvp community, people ask about your build at the 4th of July BBQ while you wear those salmon colored shorts and yellow cuffed button down shirt. Your hair is a little receded from that damn blood spawn helm you wore for years until you decided it was time to hide it in the settings menu.

    Long story short, pretty much everyone has to some degree followed this path, learn to be ok with failure, make sure you learn from it, and at the end of the day, never come to the forums and complain that no one is adding you to their group when you have an invite button yourself.

    Have fun in Cyrodiil.

    First off I even though there is some complaining on my end, no doubt, I'd like to think it was also a suggestion. DC could be a lot more powerful if some of the "leaders" would rise up and harness some of the untapped potential of the lone players out there. There's a lot of them. Like I mentioned earlier which some of the earlier posters decided to disregard and instead leave a *** message in hopes of getting their awesome button mashed, I would try to run some PUGs if I felt I was a bit more experienced to do so. I'm not going to go out there and wrangle a bunch of people into a group who know as much or less than I do and feed points to the enemy. Hell I do that nightly getting ganked by NBs..You know this whole Cyrodiil experience reminds me of trying to get my first safety job after college years ago. I had a hundred resumes out and everytime a potential employer called the first thing they would ask is if I had 5 years of experience. I'd respond no but I've got years of industrial experience to which they'd reply well get 5 years and call us back. I went through this many times and I always ended the call with how can I get experience if no one's willing to give me a shot. I'm not going into my life story but I finally got that shot but it was nothing short of right place right time. You know I'd love to learn more of the ins and outs of eso's PVP so I could then try to lead and I'm sure there are a lot out there that feel the same. Unfortunately I don't have the time due to work and raising grandkids to spend running a guild ( I had my own years ago in multiple games) or champion the cause of being the PUG warband leader. Hell it takes enough time to rad class forums to see what 's changed and what's working every few months. I'd just like to log in on my prime time 7-11 PM central weekdays and most weekends, join a group of pvp orientated folks, and work together to win. There's a lot of folks with 501+ CPs that have way more time than I have. Hopefully someone, someday will figure out how to harness the PUG power.

    I'll end by saying I spend what little free time I have researching builds to succeed. I go out, do my best, and if need be I make changes and try again. I fail quite often in ESO (mainly PVP) but I'm old and wise enough to go back to the chalk board, make some changes, and try again. I've been MMO gaming a long time so I know how it works but for the life of me I've never had such difficulties in finding a group in pvp especially when realm pride's at stake. Daoc people used to form up outside and push into enemy territory. Warhammer was the same.Sure you had your guild groups but most fo them would pick up solos if their raid wasn't full. I guess those days are long gone it seems.

    I run every voice comm program out there. I'm just waiting for a chance to use it.
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Zardayne wrote: »
    Start with pick up groups, if they require TS... Just get TS. You don't have to talk, plenty in my guild type only.

    Pick up groups are basically your junior high school dances, it's where you wind up meeting people, have a little more freedom to figure out new skills, understand the broadest strokes of group basics.

    From there inevitably, someone gets tired of getting hit in the face over their jello pudding, and goes into the "high school" phase, where they make their own guild... Basically of friends they have made in PU group, that they trust are decent enough players. Those friends invite their friends (because at this point they are all in 5 guilds) and then you get your HS click of mid level players that still lean on numbers a little more than skill which is where most of the map is won/lost.

    From there we enter the college phase where people start experimenting, small group, making their own guild, dueling, basically any weird pvp scenario... You'll see someone with purple hair doing it. Some still cling to HS working at their faction Applebee's. This seems to be where players start to "come into their own," claiming they understand the world because they have been to their gates and behind the enemies gates and completely understand where and what pvp should be.

    By the college level of PVP, players more or less understand in what direction they want to go.... And then real life pvp happens. They have either become their own boss and have made a thriving/flailing pvp guild struggling to make money in a debt driven pvp economy trying to put their khajiits through private school so they have a better life, or they have made it into a cushy big firm, with a luxurious spa and amenities like recognition as map winners and ap bonuses, or you have the professional athlete guild who still runs large enough to get *** done, but small enough to be marveled and declared a model for redguards across the land to look up to.

    Then you have your super small group/1vx people.... Who are basically the gopro wearing extreme sports athletes, who only drink redbull... And have been wearing DC sneakers, backwards Pact hats, or Eagle Earrings, since they earned their sponsorship when they defeated more than 3 people, by themselves, and have been searching for that heart pounding fun in game ever since.

    Then you reach a level of pvp maturity. Where you can take part in any pvp community, people ask about your build at the 4th of July BBQ while you wear those salmon colored shorts and yellow cuffed button down shirt. Your hair is a little receded from that damn blood spawn helm you wore for years until you decided it was time to hide it in the settings menu.

    Long story short, pretty much everyone has to some degree followed this path, learn to be ok with failure, make sure you learn from it, and at the end of the day, never come to the forums and complain that no one is adding you to their group when you have an invite button yourself.

    Have fun in Cyrodiil.

    First off I even though there is some complaining on my end, no doubt, I'd like to think it was also a suggestion. DC could be a lot more powerful if some of the "leaders" would rise up and harness some of the untapped potential of the lone players out there. There's a lot of them. Like I mentioned earlier which some of the earlier posters decided to disregard and instead leave a *** message in hopes of getting their awesome button mashed, I would try to run some PUGs if I felt I was a bit more experienced to do so. I'm not going to go out there and wrangle a bunch of people into a group who know as much or less than I do and feed points to the enemy. Hell I do that nightly getting ganked by NBs..You know this whole Cyrodiil experience reminds me of trying to get my first safety job after college years ago. I had a hundred resumes out and everytime a potential employer called the first thing they would ask is if I had 5 years of experience. I'd respond no but I've got years of industrial experience to which they'd reply well get 5 years and call us back. I went through this many times and I always ended the call with how can I get experience if no one's willing to give me a shot. I'm not going into my life story but I finally got that shot but it was nothing short of right place right time. You know I'd love to learn more of the ins and outs of eso's PVP so I could then try to lead and I'm sure there are a lot out there that feel the same. Unfortunately I don't have the time due to work and raising grandkids to spend running a guild ( I had my own years ago in multiple games) or champion the cause of being the PUG warband leader. Hell it takes enough time to rad class forums to see what 's changed and what's working every few months. I'd just like to log in on my prime time 7-11 PM central weekdays and most weekends, join a group of pvp orientated folks, and work together to win. There's a lot of folks with 501+ CPs that have way more time than I have. Hopefully someone, someday will figure out how to harness the PUG power.

    I'll end by saying I spend what little free time I have researching builds to succeed. I go out, do my best, and if need be I make changes and try again. I fail quite often in ESO (mainly PVP) but I'm old and wise enough to go back to the chalk board, make some changes, and try again. I've been MMO gaming a long time so I know how it works but for the life of me I've never had such difficulties in finding a group in pvp especially when realm pride's at stake. Daoc people used to form up outside and push into enemy territory. Warhammer was the same.Sure you had your guild groups but most fo them would pick up solos if their raid wasn't full. I guess those days are long gone it seems.

    I run every voice comm program out there. I'm just waiting for a chance to use it.

    I sent you a Private Message to send you a guild invite. Let us know.
  • Ghost-Shot
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    Start with pick up groups, if they require TS... Just get TS. You don't have to talk, plenty in my guild type only.

    Pick up groups are basically your junior high school dances, it's where you wind up meeting people, have a little more freedom to figure out new skills, understand the broadest strokes of group basics.

    From there inevitably, someone gets tired of getting hit in the face over their jello pudding, and goes into the "high school" phase, where they make their own guild... Basically of friends they have made in PU group, that they trust are decent enough players. Those friends invite their friends (because at this point they are all in 5 guilds) and then you get your HS click of mid level players that still lean on numbers a little more than skill which is where most of the map is won/lost.

    From there we enter the college phase where people start experimenting, small group, making their own guild, dueling, basically any weird pvp scenario... You'll see someone with purple hair doing it. Some still cling to HS working at their faction Applebee's. This seems to be where players start to "come into their own," claiming they understand the world because they have been to their gates and behind the enemies gates and completely understand where and what pvp should be.

    By the college level of PVP, players more or less understand in what direction they want to go.... And then real life pvp happens. They have either become their own boss and have made a thriving/flailing pvp guild struggling to make money in a debt driven pvp economy trying to put their khajiits through private school so they have a better life, or they have made it into a cushy big firm, with a luxurious spa and amenities like recognition as map winners and ap bonuses, or you have the professional athlete guild who still runs large enough to get *** done, but small enough to be marveled and declared a model for redguards across the land to look up to.

    Then you have your super small group/1vx people.... Who are basically the gopro wearing extreme sports athletes, who only drink redbull... And have been wearing DC sneakers, backwards Pact hats, or Eagle Earrings, since they earned their sponsorship when they defeated more than 3 people, by themselves, and have been searching for that heart pounding fun in game ever since.

    Then you reach a level of pvp maturity. Where you can take part in any pvp community, people ask about your build at the 4th of July BBQ while you wear those salmon colored shorts and yellow cuffed button down shirt. Your hair is a little receded from that damn blood spawn helm you wore for years until you decided it was time to hide it in the settings menu.

    Long story short, pretty much everyone has to some degree followed this path, learn to be ok with failure, make sure you learn from it, and at the end of the day, never come to the forums and complain that no one is adding you to their group when you have an invite button yourself.

    Have fun in Cyrodiil.

    Rhage forum spec OP, its kind of funny how accurate this really is lol.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Harnessing PUG power is dangerous black Majic . It always turns on the caster !
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Hmm see him posting in other threads. Messaged him. Maybe he doesn't want to be in a DC pvp guild? Either way he can roll with us if he responds to the invite.
  • ManDraKE
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    Join a PVP guild. Most of the groups on cyrodril don't pick up people from zone chat, except when they are recruiting. You can spam LFG for hours and don't get an invite, been there, done that.

    If you are looking a guild for DC PC, you can join HoD, they run organized groups every day, send an ingame message to @nemesismimz or @Stein
  • Zardayne
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    Sorry Dutch I'm at work and can't respond quickly. I sent you back a message.
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Awesome and welcome!!!
  • Reevster
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    Its no different on AD, I gave up and run solo most of the time now , get out the restro staff and leach AP off on big groups etc, I am getting good at this now lol.

    I know its sucks not getting a group, but i do understand why its so hard now. It is a major pain pulling together "PUGs" some PUG players just want to stay in stealth and collector APs from the group which is unacceptable when you are in a group.

  • Zardayne
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    Reevster wrote: »
    Its no different on AD, I gave up and run solo most of the time now , get out the restro staff and leach AP off on big groups etc, I am getting good at this now lol.

    I know its sucks not getting a group, but i do understand why its so hard now. It is a major pain pulling together "PUGs" some PUG players just want to stay in stealth and collector APs from the group which is unacceptable when you are in a group.

    I was doing the same thing but I always felt I could be doing more, learning more. I helped run a scroll back Sunday morning for 20 min and I had no idea if the rest of the group was together or not but I felt like a 3rd wheel. Pug wrangling has always been hard in other MMOs but usually there were a few Pug leaders who would step up and even though unorganized, could still take some keep, cause some havoc, and divert the enemies forces. Unfortunately some of the names mentioned here on DC that do run Pugs occasionally don't run often or are full during my play times (I'm assuming). I think I had ran with Shadowgrabber for a few once and perhaps Theodore a time or two but I don't think they do it nightly. Back in the day in other MMOs guild groups would take you in to learn but if a guildie got on they'd let you know a head of time, you'd have to leave. As a solo player you were pretty grateful for that time they gave you. In the long run including some of these folks who are loners into groups can only help retain these players because they feel they are apart of something. That's good for ESO and for the realm.
  • God_flakes
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    Zardayne, I'm sorry this is the experience you have had. DC has become so jaded and most aren't willing to pick up randoms anymore. I did it for so long-but it's a thankless task. People will mock you for it and stab you in the back first chance they get...it makes it not even worth it. Is your name Zardayne in game?! I will keep an eye out for you and give you a chance in Guard. But we don't normally pick up pugs. You seem like you genuinely want to learn and participate though.
    Edited by God_flakes on June 6, 2016 7:43PM
  • Telel
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    Telel has never let their incompetence keep them from leading groups. In fact they have never let their incompetence stop them from doing anything that they demand others do for them.

    No, the only things that stop them from doing that is the selfishness of the people who claim they wish to be led, but then refuse to listen. Such people make an already burdensome task most unappealing.

    Also this one is already accused of having fleas, and can do without more obvious parasites latching onto them.

    But as khajiit requires team speak for any random groups they may lead this results in them very rarely needing to deal with such selfish children. Any that happen to make it past that filter are dealt with swift by means of battle field execution. AKA, right click, kick from group, and then put on ignore.



    Character: Telel
    Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
    Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
    Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.

    Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Telel wrote: »
    Telel has never let their incompetence keep them from leading groups. In fact they have never let their incompetence stop them from doing anything that they demand others do for them.

    No, the only things that stop them from doing that is the selfishness of the people who claim they wish to be led, but then refuse to listen. Such people make an already burdensome task most unappealing.

    Also this one is already accused of having fleas, and can do without more obvious parasites latching onto them.

    But as khajiit requires team speak for any random groups they may lead this results in them very rarely needing to deal with such selfish children. Any that happen to make it past that filter are dealt with swift by means of battle field execution. AKA, right click, kick from group, and then put on ignore.



    Yes and I've watched your steams and have heard the frustration first hand lol
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