They usually hang out in starter zones Auridon, Glenumbra and Stonefalls. Sometimes they talk in zone chat and help ppl like IM STUCK types. It gets quite funny sometimes.^^ They have the Z tag on their names, so that's how i know.Has anyone ever seen a GM online in ESO? I havent lol, I play up to 12 hpours a day at times....have not seen one yet.
The #1 thing I agree on is: ZOS needs a more active in game presence for issues like this. You can't tell me that if a GM logged on and witnessed someone cheating it wouldn't be enough to issue an immediate perma-ban.
I hate to say it but I can do something terrible on the forums and receive a ban quicker than I can receive a ban in game for blatantly cheating like said players were.
Has anyone ever seen a GM online in ESO? I havent lol, I play up to 12 hpours a day at times....have not seen one yet.
I believe that GMs are able to stay invisible. But I do agree that they should have more of an active presence to engage the community and stay on top of things.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4044-qdhj-5691
All VAC bans are permanent - Valve has a zero-tolerance policy for cheating and will not lift VAC bans on request. Steam Support agents cannot remove or modify bans. If a round of VAC bans is determined to have been issued incorrectly, they will be automatically reversed by our servers. Creating a Steam Support ticket will not cause your ban to be removed.
When a cheat is detected, VAC issues a ban on the account for a future date. You do not need to be online at the time for this ban to take effect.
The thing is, people have been cheating from Day One.
And to be honest, I'm not sure ZOS can stop it - because the reason it's so easy to cheat is because the game is designed to allow add-ons. That puts holes and openings in the code that are just begging to be exploited.
The #1 thing I agree on is: ZOS needs a more active in game presence for issues like this. You can't tell me that if a GM logged on and witnessed someone cheating it wouldn't be enough to issue an immediate perma-ban.
I hate to say it but I can do something terrible on the forums and receive a ban quicker than I can receive a ban in game for blatantly cheating like said players were.
Has anyone ever seen a GM online in ESO? I havent lol, I play up to 12 hpours a day at times....have not seen one yet.
I believe that GMs are able to stay invisible. But I do agree that they should have more of an active presence to engage the community and stay on top of things.
Well said. This whole episode is very demoralizing.
I sat out TG because my build basically got trashed, IC was still undeveloped, and some other gameplay and performance issues. It seemed as if some of these issues were being addressed, and I have been thinking about playing in DB.
Now that this cheating has been exposed, it has called into question so much. Like you said, it feels like there will be this shadow of doubt that will hang over PVP and lead to a lot of frustration and acrimony. And a lot of us are busy, and don't feel like spending an evening of gaming wondering if people are cheating.
The first place to look after losing a fight should always be the mirror. Cheating is a reality in most games, but unless it can be proven, it is not the reason you lost that fight -- today or six months ago.
Even in games with no cheats available, it is common for the best players to be constantly accused of cheating. Not many people are humble enough to accept they do not know everything about a game or that somebody else may have better senses or motor skills.
themdogesbite wrote: »Watching how broken this game is and how much more broken it gets with every so called "update" is disgusting. I'd rather have all the perma batswarm *** over what we have now. Atleast i would have normal FPS and SOUND.
Ghost-Shot wrote: »themdogesbite wrote: »Watching how broken this game is and how much more broken it gets with every so called "update" is disgusting. I'd rather have all the perma batswarm *** over what we have now. Atleast i would have normal FPS and SOUND.
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God_flakes wrote: »To the cheating apologists: stop putting lipstick on the pig. Stop trying to mitigate this. Stop minimizing it. Idgaf that this has happened in other games. I care that it's so rampant and in your face now in THIS game. And I want to know what is being done about it because from where I sit it looks like a big fat nothing and Zos owes their customers some sort of explanation of an action plan to rectify this.
God_flakes wrote: »To the cheating apologists: stop putting lipstick on the pig. Stop trying to mitigate this. Stop minimizing it. Idgaf that this has happened in other games. I care that it's so rampant and in your face now in THIS game. And I want to know what is being done about it because from where I sit it looks like a big fat nothing and Zos owes their customers some sort of explanation of an action plan to rectify this.
God_flakes wrote: »Seriously? They owe us nothing? Not even an explanation? Why are they unbanning KNOWN cheaters? People that actual video was sent in of them?! This is absurd and it gets worse by the day.
God_flakes wrote: »To the cheating apologists: stop putting lipstick on the pig. Stop trying to mitigate this. Stop minimizing it. Idgaf that this has happened in other games. I care that it's so rampant and in your face now in THIS game. And I want to know what is being done about it because from where I sit it looks like a big fat nothing and Zos owes their customers some sort of explanation of an action plan to rectify this.
All I'm saying is that recent revelations alone do not prove that anyone in particular is a cheater. I estimate 99.99% of accusations of cheating I've observed are completely baseless. Now and before.
Too many people are using this controversy as an excuse to justify losing.
The reason cheating is bad is because it's unfair to other players. So are baseless accusations. By making them, one becomes as bad as an actual cheater.
God_flakes wrote: »Seriously? They owe us nothing? Not even an explanation? Why are they unbanning KNOWN cheaters? People that actual video was sent in of them?! This is absurd and it gets worse by the day.
The first place to look after losing a fight should always be the mirror. Cheating is a reality in most games, but unless it can be proven, it is not the reason you lost that fight -- today or six months ago.
Even in games with no cheats available, it is common for the best players to be constantly accused of cheating. Not many people are humble enough to accept they do not know everything about a game or that somebody else may have better senses or motor skills.
AFAIK there is no game that has no-one cheating. Every game I personally have ever been involved with has had at some point a cheating scandal
A difference between you and I is that I've long known this was happening to some degree. I chose to play anyway.
If you choose to continue to play, you cannot use the existence of cheats as a license to accuse anyone you like.
Few people have expressed more outrage at ZOS polices over the past six months than I have. This isn't about ZOS. It's about our integrity as a community.
Good ethics don't only mean that one doesn't cheat. They also mean that you don't accuse anyone of cheating without solid proof.
There is great ignorance about ESO's mechanics. The game is poorly documented by ZOS. The players who have taken the time to learn legal mechanics can appear to be cheating by those who have not. The former represents a minority and the latter a majority.
Yes, the probability is that many well-known players have cheated. However, that does not mean 1vX_player00 cheated.
Crispen_Longbow wrote: »The first place to look after losing a fight should always be the mirror. Cheating is a reality in most games, but unless it can be proven, it is not the reason you lost that fight -- today or six months ago.
Even in games with no cheats available, it is common for the best players to be constantly accused of cheating. Not many people are humble enough to accept they do not know everything about a game or that somebody else may have better senses or motor skills.
AFAIK there is no game that has no-one cheating. Every game I personally have ever been involved with has had at some point a cheating scandal
Maybe a common denominator of those games was the above section in bold. Couldn't resist, you walked right into that one.
Crispen_Longbow wrote: »The first place to look after losing a fight should always be the mirror. Cheating is a reality in most games, but unless it can be proven, it is not the reason you lost that fight -- today or six months ago.
Even in games with no cheats available, it is common for the best players to be constantly accused of cheating. Not many people are humble enough to accept they do not know everything about a game or that somebody else may have better senses or motor skills.
AFAIK there is no game that has no-one cheating. Every game I personally have ever been involved with has had at some point a cheating scandal
Maybe a common denominator of those games was the above section in bold. Couldn't resist, you walked right into that one.
Lol well I did preface that with the As Far As I Know, also how could I speak on something I have not been personally a part of? Isn't that exactly what a lot of these cheating cries are about? Hearsay, conjecture and subterfuge?
That's not my bag, baby.
Crispen_Longbow wrote: »The first place to look after losing a fight should always be the mirror. Cheating is a reality in most games, but unless it can be proven, it is not the reason you lost that fight -- today or six months ago.
Even in games with no cheats available, it is common for the best players to be constantly accused of cheating. Not many people are humble enough to accept they do not know everything about a game or that somebody else may have better senses or motor skills.
AFAIK there is no game that has no-one cheating. Every game I personally have ever been involved with has had at some point a cheating scandal
Maybe a common denominator of those games was the above section in bold. Couldn't resist, you walked right into that one.
Lol well I did preface that with the As Far As I Know, also how could I speak on something I have not been personally a part of? Isn't that exactly what a lot of these cheating cries are about? Hearsay, conjecture and subterfuge?
That's not my bag, baby.