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Gankblade advice requested

Massive_Stain
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Magicka based Nightblade. I have all skills in three skill trees unlocked. I am currently running sword and board main and bow as secondary. I am willing to respec CP and skills if someone can give me a real, and viable Gankblade build. Thanks!
PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
Xbox: CP 450 Fungal Grotto 1 HM
  • ParaNostram
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    Well personally what I would do is go to the character select screen and delete the character, but that's me. If you're serious though, just look to the forums for what everyone complains about you'll find it.

    My personal actual recommendation is dual swords, gives a bonus to damage and hey, one more item for whatever set you want it to be. That, proxy det, soul tether, siphoning stuff, there ya go. Want single target? You've got more tools to choose from than you can shake a dead in the water shieldless sorc at come DB.
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  • Valrien
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    Bow and S/S are worthless for what you're trying to accomplish. Go DW/Resto.
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
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  • Cously
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    Do what every mag nb and their mother are doing with teether, proxy and vicious.
  • Massive_Stain
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Bow and S/S are worthless for what you're trying to accomplish. Go DW/Resto.

    Fair enough. Should I be using siphon abilities? Which buffs would you suggest?
    PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
    PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
    Xbox: CP 450 Fungal Grotto 1 HM
  • Massive_Stain
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    Cously wrote: »
    Do what every mag nb and their mother are doing with teether, proxy and vicious.

    I definitely slot soul tether. Also I slot lotus fan, mass hysteria , siphoning strikes, and soul siphon .
    PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
    PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
    Xbox: CP 450 Fungal Grotto 1 HM
  • Jaronking
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    This would had been better for the PVP forums.It sounds like you want to be a stamblade with that setup only thing getting killed with that set up is you.
  • dwtdwtdwt
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    Unless you are
    Cously wrote: »
    Do what every mag nb and their mother are doing with teether, proxy and vicious.

    This is your best bet if you want to be a magicka nightblade "ganker". Magicka nighblades (without the stated tether, proxy AoE bomb) lack the burst damage you need for a serious ganking setup.

    But I think I know what you are trying to do, and what others have said in this thread is helpful. Drop the weapons you have now, get you some torug's pact swords, and a resto staff. If you don't have proxy detonation yet, you aren't going to be able to achieve that quick damage output. So, you're best bet is concealed weapon, lotus, impale for a decent mid-range execute, and cripple works really well as a minor cc, dot, and buff for you.

    You might also consider destro staff instead of swords for other viable skills, place the freedom to not have to be in melee range.
    Edited by dwtdwtdwt on May 24, 2016 8:36PM
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  • SwaminoNowlino
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    SypherPK has an entire series of video's dedicated to this and they work. Gank is about high burst at the expense of being squishy. Sword and Board isn't going to do anything for you. You're going to need to run divines as well instead of impen on this build. It is fun, but can be frustrating.
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  • PurifedBladez
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    Dude it sounds like you need to watch a build video...
  • FortheloveofKrist
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Bow and S/S are worthless for what you're trying to accomplish. Go DW/Resto.

    Bow is worthless for ganking? Interesting. Now I can't figure out how I got all these stones.

    Edit: Oh wait, the OP is a magicka build. My bad. Me dumb. Hurts earballs.




    Edited by FortheloveofKrist on May 24, 2016 9:04PM
  • KingYogi415
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    You need to go vampire and start leveling up ledgerman for sneak buff.
    Dual wield swords for DPS with resto as buff bar.

    Dual wield bar: sap, inner light, stife, mass hyseria, finisher or gap closer.

    resto: entropy, bubble shield, proxy det, flex, flex

    Good luck young gankblade!
    Magic nightblade is currenty my favorite tank or DPS in the game.
    Coming dark brotherhood you will be able to duck any gaurd easily, I cant believe I used to let them kill me.
  • Massive_Stain
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    dwtdwtdwt wrote: »
    Unless you are
    Cously wrote: »
    Do what every mag nb and their mother are doing with teether, proxy and vicious.

    This is your best bet if you want to be a magicka nightblade "ganker". Magicka nighblades (without the stated tether, proxy AoE bomb) lack the burst damage you need for a serious ganking setup.

    But I think I know what you are trying to do, and what others have said in this thread is helpful. Drop the weapons you have now, get you some torug's pact swords, and a resto staff. If you don't have proxy detonation yet, you aren't going to be able to achieve that quick damage output. So, you're best bet is concealed weapon, lotus, impale for a decent mid-range execute, and cripple works really well as a minor cc, dot, and buff for you.

    You might also consider destro staff instead of swords for other viable skills, place the freedom to not have to be in melee range.
    You need to go vampire and start leveling up ledgerman for sneak buff.
    Dual wield swords for DPS with resto as buff bar.

    Dual wield bar: sap, inner light, stife, mass hyseria, finisher or gap closer.

    resto: entropy, bubble shield, proxy det, flex, flex

    Good luck young gankblade!
    Magic nightblade is currenty my favorite tank or DPS in the game.
    Coming dark brotherhood you will be able to duck any gaurd easily, I cant believe I used to let them kill me.

    Solid advice. Thanks ! One more question : CP allocation ? I am at 395 right now.
    PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
    PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
    Xbox: CP 450 Fungal Grotto 1 HM
  • Palidon
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    Magicka Nighblade Build that has been very effective in PvP for me however, this build is not for everyone

    Bar One (Duel Wield)
    Lotus Fan
    Concealed Weapon
    Sap Essence
    Mass Hysteria
    Dark Cloak
    Ult -- Incapacitating Strike or Soul Harvest

    Bar Two (Destro Staff)
    Double Take
    Piercing Mark or Cammo Hunter
    Funnel Health
    Force Pulse
    Vigor
    Ult -- Shooting Star or Devouring Swarm

    Gear 5 piece Kraganacs, 2 piece Magnus Gold all v16
    Chest and Legs heavy Infused the rest light divines
    3 Willpower and with Spell Damage
    Weapons Destro Staff Magus Flame Damage Sharpened or Nirnhoned Gold v16
    Swords Magnus Purple or Gold v16

    Rotation: Being in stealth prior to attack is important. First switch to bar 2 and use double take, then back to bar one. Dark Cloak, then gap close with Lotus Fan followed by Concealed weapon weaving in a light attack then cloak, sap essence, concealed weapon cloak, fear, concealed weapon Incpacitating strike. If need be Rinse and repeat. You can almost keep Incpacitating strike up constantly only requires 50 ult.

    Bar 2 is for a distance attack and wearing down your prey's resources

    Rotation Double Take, Piercing mark, heavy attack weaving in funnel health, force pulse weaving in light attacks switch to bar 1 rotation if necessary

    Why Destro and not Restro. For the additional damage a destro light and heavy attacks will give coupled with force pulse and funnel health. If you want to use a restro then also use prox det.

    Your most effective tools as a Magblade is cloak and fear Always cloak prior to and in between attacks. When in trouble double take and fear then cloak out and break line of site if possible. As a Magblade using the above build i can stay in cloak indefinately with 41k Magicka, 1900 Magicka recovery un-buffed. I use tri food v15 that boosts health, stam and magicka along with spell damage potions. This build is also based on having 501 champion points.

    Edited by Palidon on May 27, 2016 4:45PM
  • Massive_Stain
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    Palidon wrote: »
    Magicka Nighblade Build that has been very effective in PvP for me however, this build is not for everyone

    Bar One (Duel Wield)
    Lotus Fan
    Concealed Weapon
    Sap Essence
    Mass Hysteria
    Dark Cloak
    Ult -- Incapacitating Strike or Soul Harvest

    Bar Two (Destro Staff)
    Double Take
    Piercing Mark or Cammo Hunter
    Funnel Health
    Force Pulse
    Vigor
    Ult -- Shooting Star or Devouring Swarm

    Gear 5 piece Kraganacs, 2 piece Magnus Gold all v16
    Chest and Legs heavy Infused the rest light divines
    3 Willpower and with Spell Damage
    Weapons Destro Staff Magus Flame Damage Sharpened or Nirnhoned Gold v16
    Swords Magnus Purple or Gold v16

    Rotation: Being in stealth prior to attack is important. First switch to bar 2 and use double take, then back to bar one. Dark Cloak, then gap close with Lotus Fan followed by Concealed weapon weaving in a light attack then cloak, sap essence, concealed weapon cloak, fear, concealed weapon Incpacitating strike. If need be Rinse and repeat. You can almost keep Incpacitating strike up constantly only requires 50 ult.

    Bar 2 is for a distance attack and wearing down your prey's resources

    Rotation Double Take, Piercing mark, heavy attack weaving in funnel health, force pulse weaving in light attacks switch to bar 1 rotation if necessary

    Why Destro and not Restro. For the additional damage a destro light and heavy attacks will give coupled with force pulse and funnel health. If you want to use a restro then also use prox det.

    Your most effective tools as a Magblade is cloak and fear Always cloak prior to and in between attacks. When in trouble double take and fear then cloak out and break line of site if possible. As a Magblade using the above build i can stay in cloak indefinately with 41k Magicka, 1900 Magicka recovery un-buffed. I use tri food v15 that boosts health, stam and magicka along with spell damage potions. This build is also based on having 501 champion points.

    This is great. Thank you!
    PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
    PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
    Xbox: CP 450 Fungal Grotto 1 HM
  • Van_0S
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    MagNB

    Bar 1: DW

    Lotus fan, conceal weapon, shadow disguise, sap essence, inner light
    Ultimate: Soul harvest.

    Bar 2: Restoration staff

    Proximity detonation, Double take, sallow soul/ efficient purge, Healing ward, merciless resolve
    Ultimate: Soul tether.
  • Massive_Stain
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    Van_0S wrote: »
    MagNB

    Bar 1: DW

    Lotus fan, conceal weapon, shadow disguise, sap essence, inner light
    Ultimate: Soul harvest.

    Bar 2: Restoration staff

    Proximity detonation, Double take, sallow soul/ efficient purge, Healing ward, merciless resolve
    Ultimate: Soul tether.

    I recently unlocked magick det with my sorc. First time I ever used it. That ability rocks! Time to get it for my nb.
    PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
    PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
    Xbox: CP 450 Fungal Grotto 1 HM
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