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Flawless title, other hard to get achievements worthless with the ult spam bug -- @ZOS

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I worked hard to get my Flawless title, and now anyone can download this cheat engine and spam Barrier, Meteor, Dawnbreaker, and any other ults they want to clear end game PvE content.

Eventually, groups will start doing this for the new vMoL trial.

Numerous people have appeared with very very high scores on vMA leaderboards just in the past 24 hours who haven't been on them before.

How is this being addressed?
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  • Tryxus
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    How is this being addressed?

    With a 3 month long coffee break, and a bit of work for the next update
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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  • Molag_Crow
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    They don't work on weekends, so relax, they'll be on this LIKE CRAZY later on today/tomorrow for sure. I hope they address it ASAP anyway.
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  • BFT88
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    Lol worried about solo content when pvp went to ***
  • Thornen
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    It's not a bug btw its a 3rd party cheat program. 100% confirmed by the cheaters themselves on Fengrush's stream.

    As for not having any staff to deal with these things over the weekend it's ludicrous, just goes to show that they give 0 *** about anyone playing this game.
    Edited by Thornen on May 29, 2016 1:16PM
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Well, I hope they will do something more drastic than 3 days ban for this...
    Btw, using cheat engine and such should be easily detectable? Many online games just outright ban accounts that are caught on using these programs...
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  • Rex-Umbra
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    Perma ban them for using a third party program to cheat.
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  • Tryxus
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Perma ban them for using a third party program to cheat.

    DOn't get your hopes up: ZOS is more than likely going the "3 day suspension" route
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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  • KenaPKK
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    BFT88 wrote: »
    Lol worried about solo content when pvp went to ***

    Read my sig. PvP can go back to normal in a day once this is fixed. Titles and PvE completions cannot be undone without a lot of work by ZOS, though. Also they pay more attention to PvE unfortunately...
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Perma ban them for using a third party program to cheat.

    DOn't get your hopes up: ZOS is more than likely going the "3 day suspension" route

    N'ah, n'ah. They're going to administer a 7 day ban to appear tough, and maybe a month ban to the repeat offenders. :D
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Perma ban them for using a third party program to cheat.

    DOn't get your hopes up: ZOS is more than likely going the "3 day suspension" route

    N'ah, n'ah. They're going to administer a 7 day ban to appear tough, and maybe a month ban to the repeat offenders. :D

    Ooh, bet they're shaking in their boots :p
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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  • KICHZY
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    I hope all these losers that are cheating get permanently banned and then flood to the forums for sympathy only to get told where to go in a mass spam of hatred.
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    People who got Flawless Conqueror this way should be slapped with a "Sloppy Cheater" title and unable to remove it. After a good month-long suspension.
  • Woeler
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    BFT88 wrote: »
    Lol worried about solo content when pvp went to ***

    Oh... it wasn't already?
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    Woeler wrote: »
    BFT88 wrote: »
    Lol worried about solo content when pvp went to ***

    Oh... it wasn't already?

    PVP died months/years ago. I personally moved on from PVP months ago, after being fed-up with the numerous crap adding up. The lag, the band-aid fixes, the AOE caps, the soul tether+VD+proxy detonation combos everywhere and being glorified, health and skill de-syncs, etc. It all just became too infuriating, and since I play games for entertainment and fun — I simply just stopped bothering with PVP.
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    Have some respect for the integrity of your game zos, FFS. If no punitive action is taken after all this well documented evidence of cheating, I will have completely lost respect and faith in this company.
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  • BFT88
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    BFT88 wrote: »
    Lol worried about solo content when pvp went to ***

    Read my sig. PvP can go back to normal in a day once this is fixed. Titles and PvE completions cannot be undone without a lot of work by ZOS, though. Also they pay more attention to PvE unfortunately...

    You're right, totally true!
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    Is it even an easily fixable problem? If not, then maybe they should announce that they allow the use of it untill it gets fixed. Right now I've got the impression that it is considerate a bad thing, however they can't ban and blame players for using something they allow within their coding.

    This reminds me of the 2 mundus bug, where pretty much everyone I knew used it from veterans to lowbies. I mean why hold yourself back when all those you compete with use it and it gets to stay in the game for many months?

  • SwaminoNowlino
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    This has actually been around for a while, people were just doing it on the down low. There's been a concerted effort this weekend to make it painfully obvious and blatant in an effort to get it fixed and elicit a response from ZOS by making someone come in on the weekend.

    There have been threads talking about it for a while.
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  • HuawaSepp
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    The 3 day ban will hit them like a truck :trollface:
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  • Volkodav
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I worked hard to get my Flawless title, and now anyone can download this cheat engine and spam Barrier, Meteor, Dawnbreaker, and any other ults they want to clear end game PvE content.

    Eventually, groups will start doing this for the new vMoL trial.

    Numerous people have appeared with very very high scores on vMA leaderboards just in the past 24 hours who haven't been on them before.

    How is this being addressed?

    I wouldnt know how to DL and use a cheat for the life of me.
    So,getting achievements is still high up there on my list of things I enjoy inworld.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    This has actually been around for a while, people were just doing it on the down low. There's been a concerted effort this weekend to make it painfully obvious and blatant in an effort to get it fixed and elicit a response from ZOS by making someone come in on the weekend.

    There have been threads talking about it for a while.

    Ah, I see you're an "old timer" as well. :wink: A lot of this stuff is old in ESO's history, but is finally having heavy light shined on it.
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    I can just imagine one of the mods calling up Rich Lambert as he's having his Sunday dinner. "UHHHH, Rich, you may want to get in here. We have a big problem."
    Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden

    "We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

    I get by with a little help from logic.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    I can just imagine one of the mods calling up Rich Lambert as he's having his Sunday dinner. "UHHHH, Rich, you may want to get in here. We have a big problem."

    If I had to come in on my day off on a holiday weekend over something like this I guarantee you those responsible would never play this game again.

    the best part is ZOS can actually call the Justice Department and report this because hacking any software is a federal offense, a felony to be exact, and those doing this you can be incarcerated for it. ZOS could easily pursue criminal charges over this on top of sueing those responsible

    Yup, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is very broad..if your reading this and been doing this I hope you like that sinking feeling you feel in your stomach, you have caused harm to this company, they could pursue charges against you, a criminal record that will follow you the rest of your life if ever try to get a job, and they may sue you to boot. This of course after you get out jail.

    If they don't pursue this consider yourself lucky....wow the fact folks would do something as malicious as this is a shame, ZOS hadn't been perfect but they don't deserve this BS. I hope they do pursue it,folks have no right to do this...none.

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  • SwaminoNowlino
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    @RinaldoGandolphi legal action against individual users is highly unlikely, but technically a possibility. More likely is a cease and desist to whoever is in charge of cheat engine. Probably someone foreign so unlikely to help.

    Nope, ZOS is going to have to come and actually fix their game. Take it down for however long is needed (unlikely to occur given the DLC drop), but that's also part of the reason people are doing it now. Overshadow the drop of their DLC with game breaking cheats in order to get them fixed.

    It's going to be hard for ZOS to ignore reports and ignore the issue when no one is talking about their DLC but people dropping 50 meteors. So everyone needs to talk about it more. Post more videos. Start more threads. Force them to fix their game!
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    "We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

    I get by with a little help from logic.
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    @RinaldoGandolphi legal action against individual users is highly unlikely, but technically a possibility. More likely is a cease and desist to whoever is in charge of cheat engine. Probably someone foreign so unlikely to help.

    Nope, ZOS is going to have to come and actually fix their game. Take it down for however long is needed (unlikely to occur given the DLC drop), but that's also part of the reason people are doing it now. Overshadow the drop of their DLC with game breaking cheats in order to get them fixed.

    It's going to be hard for ZOS to ignore reports and ignore the issue when no one is talking about their DLC but people dropping 50 meteors. So everyone needs to talk about it more. Post more videos. Start more threads. Force them to fix their game!

    Not to mention the fact that it costs money to take legal action against someone/something. And it's not cheap either.

    And ZOS can front all they want, doing $1M giveaways to people who don't even play the game. But, let's keep it real. They don't even have the cash to fund a proper QA team — let alone invest in a better support/tech. team.

    Or maybe they do have the guap to do all these things, but they just choose not to. Why? Because of greed and laziness. Who knows?
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I can just imagine one of the mods calling up Rich Lambert as he's having his Sunday dinner. "UHHHH, Rich, you may want to get in here. We have a big problem."

    If I had to come in on my day off on a holiday weekend over something like this I guarantee you those responsible would never play this game again.

    the best part is ZOS can actually call the Justice Department and report this because hacking any software is a federal offense, a felony to be exact, and those doing this you can be incarcerated for it. ZOS could easily pursue criminal charges over this on top of sueing those responsible

    Yup, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is very broad..if your reading this and been doing this I hope you like that sinking feeling you feel in your stomach, you have caused harm to this company, they could pursue charges against you, a criminal record that will follow you the rest of your life if ever try to get a job, and they may sue you to boot. This of course after you get out jail.

    If they don't pursue this consider yourself lucky....wow the fact folks would do something as malicious as this is a shame, ZOS hadn't been perfect but they don't deserve this BS. I hope they do pursue it,folks have no right to do this...none.

    Well if it is indeed a federal crime , I can share from personal experience of family members what they can expect .

    1. Shower shoes
    2. Tennis lessons (don't cheat though , they take that serious)
    3. A wide variety of assorted candies at the commissary
    4. Puffs lubricated tissues to cry into on visiting day
    5. Warmer cotton bedsheets
    6. Premium cable channels and limited internet access
    7. Sing alongs in the work shops
    8. Access to law books and education
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    I can just imagine one of the mods calling up Rich Lambert as he's having his Sunday dinner. "UHHHH, Rich, you may want to get in here. We have a big problem."

    If I had to come in on my day off on a holiday weekend over something like this I guarantee you those responsible would never play this game again.

    the best part is ZOS can actually call the Justice Department and report this because hacking any software is a federal offense, a felony to be exact, and those doing this you can be incarcerated for it. ZOS could easily pursue criminal charges over this on top of sueing those responsible

    Yup, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is very broad..if your reading this and been doing this I hope you like that sinking feeling you feel in your stomach, you have caused harm to this company, they could pursue charges against you, a criminal record that will follow you the rest of your life if ever try to get a job, and they may sue you to boot. This of course after you get out jail.

    If they don't pursue this consider yourself lucky....wow the fact folks would do something as malicious as this is a shame, ZOS hadn't been perfect but they don't deserve this BS. I hope they do pursue it,folks have no right to do this...none.

    Well if it is indeed a federal crime , I can share from personal experience of family members what they can expect .

    1. Shower shoes
    2. Tennis lessons (don't cheat though , they take that serious)
    3. A wide variety of assorted candies at the commissary
    4. Puffs lubricated tissues to cry into on visiting day
    5. Warmer cotton bedsheets
    6. Premium cable channels and limited internet access
    7. Sing alongs in the work shops
    8. Access to law books and education

    Being in the slammer in N. America is pretty laid back. You get fed, are given the opportunity to shower and clean yourself, are given access to both Internet and cable, get rec' time, etc. You just gotta mainly watch out for those who wish to do you harm (both officers and inmates alike). You'll also have to be mindful of which ethnicity you align yourself with, and be cautious of gangs. BUT! If you mind your P's and Q's, you'll be straight in the slammer. Just mind your business, keep a low profile, and you'll be aight.

    But back on topic, I highly doubt Zenimax would take legal action against some petty hackers/exploiters of a MMO. Lol. They'd be more likely to take legal action against DDOS'ers than people using hacks to gain an edge in PVE and PVP. I'm just saying.
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    I can just imagine one of the mods calling up Rich Lambert as he's having his Sunday dinner. "UHHHH, Rich, you may want to get in here. We have a big problem."

    If I had to come in on my day off on a holiday weekend over something like this I guarantee you those responsible would never play this game again.

    the best part is ZOS can actually call the Justice Department and report this because hacking any software is a federal offense, a felony to be exact, and those doing this you can be incarcerated for it. ZOS could easily pursue criminal charges over this on top of sueing those responsible

    Yup, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is very broad..if your reading this and been doing this I hope you like that sinking feeling you feel in your stomach, you have caused harm to this company, they could pursue charges against you, a criminal record that will follow you the rest of your life if ever try to get a job, and they may sue you to boot. This of course after you get out jail.

    If they don't pursue this consider yourself lucky....wow the fact folks would do something as malicious as this is a shame, ZOS hadn't been perfect but they don't deserve this BS. I hope they do pursue it,folks have no right to do this...none.

    Well if it is indeed a federal crime , I can share from personal experience of family members what they can expect .

    1. Shower shoes
    2. Tennis lessons (don't cheat though , they take that serious)
    3. A wide variety of assorted candies at the commissary
    4. Puffs lubricated tissues to cry into on visiting day
    5. Warmer cotton bedsheets
    6. Premium cable channels and limited internet access
    7. Sing alongs in the work shops
    8. Access to law books and education

    Being in the slammer in N. America is pretty laid back. You get fed, are given the opportunity to shower and clean yourself, are given access to both Internet and cable, get rec' time, etc. You just gotta mainly watch out for those who wish to do you harm (both officers and inmates alike). You'll also have to be mindful of which ethnicity you align yourself with, and be cautious of gangs. BUT! If you mind your P's and Q's, you'll be straight in the slammer. Just mind your business, keep a low profile, and you'll be aight.

    But back on topic, I highly doubt Zenimax would take legal action against some petty hackers/exploiters of a MMO. Lol. They'd be more likely to take legal action against DDOS'ers than people using hacks to gain an edge in PVE and PVP. I'm just saying.

    My Dad always said , "Son , if you ever do a crime , make sure it's federal." "Also , tell your Mom I need $200 on my books." As he left in more chains then Ghost Rider ...
    Edited by Rohamad_Ali on May 29, 2016 3:02PM
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    I can just imagine one of the mods calling up Rich Lambert as he's having his Sunday dinner. "UHHHH, Rich, you may want to get in here. We have a big problem."

    If I had to come in on my day off on a holiday weekend over something like this I guarantee you those responsible would never play this game again.

    the best part is ZOS can actually call the Justice Department and report this because hacking any software is a federal offense, a felony to be exact, and those doing this you can be incarcerated for it. ZOS could easily pursue criminal charges over this on top of sueing those responsible

    Yup, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is very broad..if your reading this and been doing this I hope you like that sinking feeling you feel in your stomach, you have caused harm to this company, they could pursue charges against you, a criminal record that will follow you the rest of your life if ever try to get a job, and they may sue you to boot. This of course after you get out jail.

    If they don't pursue this consider yourself lucky....wow the fact folks would do something as malicious as this is a shame, ZOS hadn't been perfect but they don't deserve this BS. I hope they do pursue it,folks have no right to do this...none.

    Well if it is indeed a federal crime , I can share from personal experience of family members what they can expect .

    1. Shower shoes
    2. Tennis lessons (don't cheat though , they take that serious)
    3. A wide variety of assorted candies at the commissary
    4. Puffs lubricated tissues to cry into on visiting day
    5. Warmer cotton bedsheets
    6. Premium cable channels and limited internet access
    7. Sing alongs in the work shops
    8. Access to law books and education

    Being in the slammer in N. America is pretty laid back. You get fed, are given the opportunity to shower and clean yourself, are given access to both Internet and cable, get rec' time, etc. You just gotta mainly watch out for those who wish to do you harm (both officers and inmates alike). You'll also have to be mindful of which ethnicity you align yourself with, and be cautious of gangs. BUT! If you mind your P's and Q's, you'll be straight in the slammer. Just mind your business, keep a low profile, and you'll be aight.

    But back on topic, I highly doubt Zenimax would take legal action against some petty hackers/exploiters of a MMO. Lol. They'd be more likely to take legal action against DDOS'ers than people using hacks to gain an edge in PVE and PVP. I'm just saying.

    My Dad always said , "Son , if you ever do a crime , make sure it's federal." "Also , tell your Mom I need $200 on my books." As he left in more chains then Ghost Rider ...

    Lmao. Damn. :D But, he wasn't lying. They take good care of you up in The Feds. They may remove your ability to receive mail (if you're dangerous enough), but it's not as wild as when you're in non-federal incarceration. Why? Because the level/scale of inmates are far more mature and sophisticated for the petty bs that happens in The County. Plus you have to remember — it's the "Big Leagues". It's where all the "Big Boys" and "Big Fish" play. :wink: It's where the Molag Kenas and Nerien'ths are detained. Where the Scathing Mages hang out, compared to the Julianos mages. :D

    But yeah, I highly doubt any legal action will be taken by ZOS. I doubt it strongly, comrade.
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on May 29, 2016 3:15PM
  • Asmael
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    Just checked the DK vMA leaderboard (EU), still hold my well earnt spot thus far.

    But don't give them too many ideas... I guess I'll have to refarm my current place with DB, since I expect them to reset it.
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