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Faction Icon/Health bar: ZOS please don't let this go live
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@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_JasonLeavey @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel
This is going to completely screw over a lot of skilled PvPers who use terrain and other things to outmaneuver opponents.
I am a 1vX player and solo ganker and I can tell you by implementing this feature you successfully crippled this type of play-style in one fell swoop.
Before TG DLC went live, a player had to make sacrifices to hard counter any form of stealth play. They were forced to use Radiant Magelight, detect pots, or other skills that would bring people out of sneak, invisibility or Cloak. With the Thieves Guild update you gave everyone a way to counter Cloak/Invis/Sneak with any form of Mage Light. Now with DB DLC even Stamina builds can slot Expert Hunter/morphs and pop stealthers. To make matters worse we now have the health bars and huge icons seen a mile away. The latter being the nails in the coffin.
Take a look at these screen shots:
First up, check out this distance
I don't even need to pay attention and I can already tell someone is down the road. Without the icon this player would blend in to his surrounding at this distance. For crying out loud the icon is as big as the player. It's nighttime and it normally would be (and should be) difficult to see things particularly at such a huge distance. Not anymore!
I thought I saw something.
Decent player tries to give the slip...
Not only can you see the homing beacon icon, you also have a huge red health bar sticking out saying "I'M OVER HERE!"
Please remove this feature. This is completely unnecessary and should not launch onto live servers. This is a blatant nerf to skilled players. A large part of 1vX and solo ganking is made up of awareness and movement. By putting this in you cripple us, especially Nightblades (intended?). Currently on PTS not only is movement speed broken, there is still the combat bug and then any competent Nightblade able to tell you how buggy and unreliable Cloak is. With this new feature added a player will be hard-pressed to get away from anyone let alone zerglings. Please remove this.
This is going to completely screw over a lot of skilled PvPers who use terrain and other things to outmaneuver opponents.
I am a 1vX player and solo ganker and I can tell you by implementing this feature you successfully crippled this type of play-style in one fell swoop.
Before TG DLC went live, a player had to make sacrifices to hard counter any form of stealth play. They were forced to use Radiant Magelight, detect pots, or other skills that would bring people out of sneak, invisibility or Cloak. With the Thieves Guild update you gave everyone a way to counter Cloak/Invis/Sneak with any form of Mage Light. Now with DB DLC even Stamina builds can slot Expert Hunter/morphs and pop stealthers. To make matters worse we now have the health bars and huge icons seen a mile away. The latter being the nails in the coffin.
Take a look at these screen shots:
First up, check out this distance
I don't even need to pay attention and I can already tell someone is down the road. Without the icon this player would blend in to his surrounding at this distance. For crying out loud the icon is as big as the player. It's nighttime and it normally would be (and should be) difficult to see things particularly at such a huge distance. Not anymore!
I thought I saw something.
Decent player tries to give the slip...
Not only can you see the homing beacon icon, you also have a huge red health bar sticking out saying "I'M OVER HERE!"
Please remove this feature. This is completely unnecessary and should not launch onto live servers. This is a blatant nerf to skilled players. A large part of 1vX and solo ganking is made up of awareness and movement. By putting this in you cripple us, especially Nightblades (intended?). Currently on PTS not only is movement speed broken, there is still the combat bug and then any competent Nightblade able to tell you how buggy and unreliable Cloak is. With this new feature added a player will be hard-pressed to get away from anyone let alone zerglings. Please remove this.
I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
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dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭i personally encourage this since nothing more annoying then a guy whos built for ganking and doge spamming humping walls n such. if he's truely skilled he'll be able to work with it.PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
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ThatNeonZebraAgain✭✭✭✭✭Ewww. Yes, this needs to go away, along with the new blocking visual effect, and the changes to Heavy Armor and Blocking/shield-related Champion Constellations, and the 6% global ability cost increase, and...Gore-of-the-Forest Argonian Nightblade
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TARAFRAKA✭✭✭✭✭What in the world is the point of stealth etc if you can see their icon?
Yes I'm aware that you can turn it off in the options but this isn't about immersion.
Any player with common sense will have this on so they can always see you from a mile away and your line of sight won't do jack to help those big bright colors in a sea of natural environmental colors.1 -
WhiteNoiseMaker✭✭✭✭This does seem to defeat any point of stealth if the toggle in working as intended in Cyrodil.1 -
Tyrannitar✭✭✭This seems kinda counter-intuitive for the whole Dark Brotherhood theme...
But seriously man, they don't and never will listen to the 1vX community.
It's pathetic. Wrobel described a video of 4 templars radiant-destructioning players to death as "enjoyable".
This guy doesn't care about balance, lag, or skill in PvP. It's a straight numbers game to him, and everyone else at the ZoS combat design team.
It's pathetic what they're turning the game into, but seriously dude. Strap in. We're about to lose ESO.My Cat Two Chainz (Main) - AD Stam Sorc
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✭✭@Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO This seems like a thread that needs your attention and kind words, do your thing.0 -
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thankfully i stay on keep walls and burn camps whenever i can, who needs kill chases when i can kill those throwing themselves at me?PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.0
