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Official Discussion Thread for "Dark Brotherhood Deep-Dive: Updates to The Crown Store and ESO Plus"

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This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Dark Brotherhood Deep-Dive: Updates to The Crown Store and ESO Plus. Read it to learn more about improvements we've made to the Crown Store, and the latest benefit of being an ESO Plus member!
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  • Elsonso
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    Finally, we get the answer... Character slots are 1500 Crowns each.
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  • MissBizz
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    I finally see what the bag looks like when you are digging in your crafting bag! Looks cool!
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  • FerrumnCutem
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    Salty about craft bags, I've spend over €200 or more on the game and will continue to buy crowns. But i dont like the feeling of having to play one single game and nothing else because it would be wasted money, if they would just sell the bags for 5000 crowns or so id still buy it.
  • GRYM.LOCKE
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    How about I just give you $100-200 and you can give me what I would like for my werewolf

    1: ultimate timer reworked
    2: skill changes
    3: better berserker morph

    Sounds fair ! :)
  • Woenprom
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    allows you to hold a nearly-unlimited number of basic crafting supplies

    I still wonder what "nearly-unlimited" means.

    Also want to know which crafting mats are "not basic".
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  • ZOS_KaiSchober
    Woenprom wrote: »
    allows you to hold a nearly-unlimited number of basic crafting supplies

    I still wonder what "nearly-unlimited" means.

    Nearly-unlimited means no more than 4 billion pieces in total in the bag. ;)

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  • wayfarerx
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    Finally, we get the answer... Character slots are 1500 Crowns each.

    I'm honestly surprised they put these at such a reasonable price, thanks ZOS!
    Woenprom wrote: »
    allows you to hold a nearly-unlimited number of basic crafting supplies

    I still wonder what "nearly-unlimited" means.

    Nearly-unlimited means no more than 4 billion pieces in total in the bag. ;)

    I'm pretty sure on ESO Live they said it was around 4 billion of each type of item, which would make sense if they were using unsigned 32-bit numbers to count how much of each type of item you have.
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  • Legoless
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    Slight correction: the article says the Vosh Rakh Ceremonial Mask is available in the base game. Unless something's changed, might be worth noting that it's actually part of Orsinium.
  • Enodoc
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    Finally, we get the answer... Character slots are 1500 Crowns each.
    That's not bad! :)
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  • Jaeysa
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    So slots average out to 15-11 USD each if you're buying the crowns. I'm good with that! Was expecting more.
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  • Turelus
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    1500 for a character slot is pretty fair. I am happy with this. :smiley:
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  • Jim_Pipp
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    Hmm... I was hoping for word about a sale on the items leaving the crown store.
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  • Pensola
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    Legoless wrote: »
    Slight correction: the article says the Vosh Rakh Ceremonial Mask is available in the base game. Unless something's changed, might be worth noting that it's actually part of Orsinium.
    From what I understand, often "base games" often just means "what came before this up-coming/current DLC". At least I could swear I've seen patch notes where they make a special section for the current DLC, then previous ones are banded together with the base game. It is a little confusing, but kind of makes sense, in the long run?
    wayfarerx wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure on ESO Live they said it was around 4 billion of each type of item, which would make sense if they were using unsigned 32-bit numbers to count how much of each type of item you have.
    They did, so it could have been a misunderstanding at some point, or things changed. Since the woman at ESO Live was the one who worked on the craft bag, if I remember correctly, I'm inclined to believe it either still is 4,2 billion per item, or that it was later changed to 4-ish billion in general. It's been two weeks, so a lot could have happened, I'm sure. At any rate, I doubt it will be filled in a while. :P
  • makeyurself
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    1500 crowns seems fair!! Thanks ZOS! Can't wait to get my hands on more slots!
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  • DerAlleinTiger
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    Woo! Glad to hear the character slots are 1500! That was just about hitting my max for purchase, but I find it very reasonable. I was a tad bit concerned after the, uh, banker and merchant 'situation,' but you guys pulled through!
  • Elsonso
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    Finally, we get the answer... Character slots are 1500 Crowns each.
    That's not bad! :)

    No, that is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. A "mere" 6000 Crowns for a full suite of characters. I totally see people buying into that.
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  • Elder_Martin
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    Does "basic crafting supplies" mean only materials harvested from nodes? No processed materials? What about foods?
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  • Elder_III
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    Kyle_ESO8 wrote: »
    Does "basic crafting supplies" mean only materials harvested from nodes? No processed materials? What about foods?

    From the way it is on PTS now it is ALL crafting materials, raw or refined, including Provisioning and Alchemy ingredients and even Fishing bait. :)

    I believe Consumables are still in your regular inventory, which makes sense really.

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    I'm happy to see the price of Character Slots is fairly reasonable. My only complaint is that the limit is a mere 4 extra slots. I had close to 20 slots in multiple other MMOs and any true altaholic is going to have 30+ anyways.... *sadpanda*
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  • Abeille
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    That hair is new!

    I can't wait until you guys start talking about the barbershop. I need some information on if a certain hair color will be available to a certain race.

    Either way... Character slots! I might buy one or two. I still don't have a Nord or a Redguard. I want to know, though, where the new characters go on the list. On the PTS, when NA was copied, I bought the slots and created a new character, but she went straight to the top of the list instead of going to the bottom. I want my first and main character to remain on top, so I would like to know if it is different on live.
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    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    @Legoless :
    If you can't wait to wear a new hat, there will be two hats available in the base game for you to wear when Dark Brotherhood is released: Cadwell's Pot Helm, and the Vosh Rakh Ceremonial Mask. These two items were previously available as a costume, but we've converted them to hats so you can now wear them with a costume!
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  • Legoless
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    @Legoless :
    If you can't wait to wear a new hat, there will be two hats available in the base game for you to wear when Dark Brotherhood is released: Cadwell's Pot Helm, and the Vosh Rakh Ceremonial Mask. These two items were previously available as a costume, but we've converted them to hats so you can now wear them with a costume!
    Fully aware. Key word is "base game", which the Mask wasn't as a costume and (I assume) won't be as a hat.
  • C0wrex
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    This is cool!

    Can't wait for the upcoming changes :)

    Also very excited on the DB release! :)
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  • Balibe
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    "wayfarerx wrote:
    I'm pretty sure on ESO Live they said it was around 4 billion of each type of item, which would make sense if they were using unsigned 32-bit numbers to count how much of each type of item you have.
    The did say that on ESO Live, it was the ESO Live before May 20th .....

  • Curragraigue
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    I think I need at least 1-2 more characters to try out some 'fun' builds. Glad we are getting the new slots but most of all the crafting bag is going to be a huge time saver. My bank can be used for gear again and my mule can be levelled as a character. No more gear/material shuffle at the bank!
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  • SolarCat02
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    I think I need at least 1-2 more characters to try out some 'fun' builds. Glad we are getting the new slots but most of all the crafting bag is going to be a huge time saver. My bank can be used for gear again and my mule can be levelled as a character. No more gear/material shuffle at the bank!

    Between the crafting bags, and the lock against accidentally deconstructing things I want to keep, I will be getting two characters back. I can't wait, for this alone!
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  • STEVIL
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    Great news overall.

    Thanks.

    Any words on sales for maybe respec scrolls?
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  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    Nearly-unlimited means no more than 4 billion pieces in total in the bag. ;)

    You *do* realize that filling the craft bag is now the new challenge, right? :smiley:
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    Great news overall.

    Thanks.

    Any words on sales for maybe respec scrolls?

    Respecs for gold are supposed to be super-cheap the first week or so.
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  • Cinbri
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    dro-m'athra costumes at the beginning of june please.
  • C0wrex
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    The bag looks amazing! Can't wait to get it :)
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