The CXP given at DB release is unfair

KingYogi415 · May 2016

Anyone who has over 400cp has been playing since before enlightenment or really grinded it out.

This game has been made for casuals, you can log in once a week for 2 hours to grind englightment.

Is this OP's fist MMO's.

Ourorboros · May 2016

JamieAubrey wrote: »

All I got for this is, I'm a player will less that 100 CP and I want more

Play more and you'll get more. Pretty simple really. The difference between those with little CP and a lot of CP is playing time. And with the catch-up mechanic, it's pretty easy for new players to hit 300 CP quickly. At that point, the CP benefit slows a lot. Certainly having max CP is no guarantee of being strong in PVP. That has much more to do with build and skill.

ConeOfSilence · May 2016

zFib wrote: »

so you think its fair that ill have to work way harder for those 40 cp when i reach the cap than you did? No thats not fair

Vet 16's have already worked hard to get those points so you won't be working way harder you will be working the same as any of us did to get to 16, that's if you decide to put in the work between now and then. Better get off the forums and start grinding.

syko809 · May 2016

If anything I suggest a bracket for cp in PvP.., and dont say go play in no CP campaign because its a ghost town. The only idea i got for this, which makes perfect sense for all the new players coming into this game.

Darth_Trumpious · May 2016

zFib wrote: »

Darth_Trumpious wrote: »

Why are the older players richer than me and have better gears? How is this fair for new players with less golds? Golds/rewards earned should be based on the current golds you have, the more golds you have the less golds you will earn from quest/mob kills!

Seriously, you want it, you earn it. Everyone gets 40 CPs. You think it is not fair? GO SPEND TIME WORKING ON MORE CPs instead of crying for it being not fair. This game should reward people who spends more time, instead of catering to jealous/entitled people like you.

ahah shut up shut up i have 700k gold and a vet 16 redguard dk i 2 shot people with WB leap combo i love this game and everything im not saying anything about gear or gold or rewards or any of that so that all was pointless but all im saying is they should give CXP instead of a # of cp so its even across the board.

lol what does "2 shot people with WB leap combo" have anything to do with this thread? Stop bluffing and it is clear that majority people are just laughing at you being irrational. You are just way too greedy and couldnt stand to see others getting more CXP than you, so you came here and made this post. If you love this game then stop making useless posts and get back to the game

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 2016

If they are complaining about the CP gain now, they would not of survived the leveling in this game back when you needed 4.5 Million XP to get to Vr10, 4.75 Million XP to get to Vr11 and 5 million XP just to get to Vr12

That's 14 Million XP just to get up 3 levels, some of us really had to work for the power our character possess today while all of you newer players have it easy.

WalkingLegacy · May 2016

rotaugen454 wrote: »

Gamerscape2007 wrote: »

I don't think people realize is the fact once the current cp cap will be lifted, this will matter since the people are 40 cp more powerful, and the people who are under 501 Cp will be gimped. Telling the op that "His tears are delicious" Is just a strawman argument at best.

I realise it and am already over the NEXT cap. Many of us who have been in since Beta and have MULTIPLE VR16s and thousands of hours played. So someone who is starting off should be where I am? Let them do the grind for a few thousand hours and we'll talk.

Because no lifers who play the game like a job should have all the advantage? No.

The gap in power should be gear and gear alone. Gear can be obtained in any lengths of time and those who play many many hours will have that gear quicker usually.

People that play thousands of hours does not equate to working or you did hard work. Just means you have a lot less things to do in the real world.

Elvent · May 2016

Ourorboros wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

All I got for this is, I'm a player will less that 100 CP and I want more

Play more and you'll get more. Pretty simple really. The difference between those with little CP and a lot of CP is playing time. And with the catch-up mechanic, it's pretty easy for new players to hit 300 CP quickly. At that point, the CP benefit slows a lot. Certainly having max CP is no guarantee of being strong in PVP. That has much more to do with build and skill.

I have a vet 16 and I'm working on my next who is vet 5 at the moment. I have 222 CP total, it didn't seem quickly to get that many points, it felt like it took a really long time actually. But then again I only quested, I didn't grind or PvP... I did the cadwell silver/gold and I'm doing that on my vet 5 as well.

Is grinding the same mobs over and over the way to get CP quickly? If so I guess I miss out on the quick way of getting CP because I cannot grind mobs for hours or I will get extremely bored/burnt out and would probably quit the game.

Epona222 · May 2016

I'm unclear as to why people think that if they play for 3 hours every month they should be as leveled up as people who play for 3 hours every day - I have yet to have anyone explain that to me in terms that don't pretty much sum up to "waaaaah, waaaaah".

Sorry, but that's just the way it comes across.

GivvumBoane · May 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

I'm unclear as to why people think that if they play for 3 hours every month they should be as leveled up as people who play for 3 hours every day - I have yet to have anyone explain that to me in terms that don't pretty much sum up to "waaaaah, waaaaah".

Sorry, but that's just the way it comes across.

Don't be sorry. Just people wanting stuff they didn't earn. I don't put in near as much time as some of the hardcore players, but I don't want to have stuff given to me because of it.

Bofrari · May 2016

How about you earn them like everyone else.

Lord_Eomer · May 2016

Guys, I am unable to stop laugh.

My four VR 16 does not worth earning 40 CP as per this post.

I have grinded a lot and did so many efforts to wear VR 16 gear and earned those skill points.

Now everyone at level 50 is gonna make it.

In this way I should be compensated with more CP's instead of 40.

GivvumBoane · May 2016

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Guys, I am unable to stop laugh.

My four VR 16 does not worth earning 40 CP as per this post.

I have grinded a lot and did so many efforts to wear VR 16 gear and earned those skill points.

Now everyone at level 50 is gonna make it.

In this way I should be compensated with more CP's instead of 40.

I agree with you. Nobody that grinded all that is saying they are happy with 40 CP. OP is trying to say we should get XP value instead of points, which would give people with lower CP more points because at low level it takes less XP to get points.

Lord_Eomer · May 2016

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Guys, I am unable to stop laugh.

My four VR 16 does not worth earning 40 CP as per this post.

I have grinded a lot and did so many efforts to wear VR 16 gear and earned those skill points.

Now everyone at level 50 is gonna make it.

In this way I should be compensated with more CP's instead of 40.

I agree with you. Nobody that grinded all that is saying they are happy with 40 CP. OP is trying to say we should get XP value instead of points, which would give people with lower CP more points because at low level it takes less XP to get points.

Agreed we should get XP value I instead of fixed CP.

This way I may get around 100+ CP and with enlightment .. just a wow for me :-)

ShedsHisTail · May 2016

Do you guys all have a different kind of CP than me? Cause I'm looking at my campion points and thinking, "Wow, 40 bonus CP is not going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference. "

How are you guys spending it in such a fashion that you actually give a ***? Especially if you aren't already V16. You're not doing end game anything, then what difference does 40 CP mean, it's just...

Oh, it's 4 free veteran ranks that you don't have to work for. Now I see why you care.

GivvumBoane · May 2016

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Guys, I am unable to stop laugh.

My four VR 16 does not worth earning 40 CP as per this post.

I have grinded a lot and did so many efforts to wear VR 16 gear and earned those skill points.

Now everyone at level 50 is gonna make it.

In this way I should be compensated with more CP's instead of 40.

I agree with you. Nobody that grinded all that is saying they are happy with 40 CP. OP is trying to say we should get XP value instead of points, which would give people with lower CP more points because at low level it takes less XP to get points.

Agreed we should get XP value I instead of fixed CP.

This way I may get around 100+ CP and with enlightment .. just a wow for me :-)

How many CP you have right now?

Epona222 · May 2016

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Do you guys all have a different kind of CP than me? Cause I'm looking at my campion points and thinking, "Wow, 40 bonus CP is not going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference. "

How are you guys spending it in such a fashion that you actually give a ***? Especially if you aren't already V16. You're not doing end game anything, then what difference does 40 CP mean, it's just...

Oh, it's 4 free veteran ranks that you don't have to work for. Now I see why you care.

There's quite a bit difference between 0 CP and 501 CP - just as an example, if you have a lot of DoT attacks, then 70+ points in Thaumaturge can make a lot of difference.

ShedsHisTail · May 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Do you guys all have a different kind of CP than me? Cause I'm looking at my campion points and thinking, "Wow, 40 bonus CP is not going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference. "

How are you guys spending it in such a fashion that you actually give a ***? Especially if you aren't already V16. You're not doing end game anything, then what difference does 40 CP mean, it's just...

Oh, it's 4 free veteran ranks that you don't have to work for. Now I see why you care.

There's quite a bit difference between 0 CP and 501 CP - just as an example, if you have a lot of DoT attacks, then 70+ points in Thaumaturge can make a lot of difference.

Yeah, absolutely, but the difference between 100 and 140 is really nothing to get worked up about.

Lord_Eomer · May 2016

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Guys, I am unable to stop laugh.

My four VR 16 does not worth earning 40 CP as per this post.

I have grinded a lot and did so many efforts to wear VR 16 gear and earned those skill points.

Now everyone at level 50 is gonna make it.

In this way I should be compensated with more CP's instead of 40.

I agree with you. Nobody that grinded all that is saying they are happy with 40 CP. OP is trying to say we should get XP value instead of points, which would give people with lower CP more points because at low level it takes less XP to get points.

Agreed we should get XP value I instead of fixed CP.

This way I may get around 100+ CP and with enlightment .. just a wow for me :-)

How many CP you have right now?

496

Bofrari · May 2016

Too bad they don't give cp experience for qqing all these people would be max ed out on cp if so.

Lord_Eomer · May 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Do you guys all have a different kind of CP than me? Cause I'm looking at my campion points and thinking, "Wow, 40 bonus CP is not going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference. "

How are you guys spending it in such a fashion that you actually give a ***? Especially if you aren't already V16. You're not doing end game anything, then what difference does 40 CP mean, it's just...

Oh, it's 4 free veteran ranks that you don't have to work for. Now I see why you care.

There's quite a bit difference between 0 CP and 501 CP - just as an example, if you have a lot of DoT attacks, then 70+ points in Thaumaturge can make a lot of difference.

I am using a lot of dot but have not spent any on Thaumaturge,

Thanks for pointing :-)

GivvumBoane · May 2016

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Guys, I am unable to stop laugh.

My four VR 16 does not worth earning 40 CP as per this post.

I have grinded a lot and did so many efforts to wear VR 16 gear and earned those skill points.

Now everyone at level 50 is gonna make it.

In this way I should be compensated with more CP's instead of 40.

I agree with you. Nobody that grinded all that is saying they are happy with 40 CP. OP is trying to say we should get XP value instead of points, which would give people with lower CP more points because at low level it takes less XP to get points.

Agreed we should get XP value I instead of fixed CP.

This way I may get around 100+ CP and with enlightment .. just a wow for me :-)

How many CP you have right now?

496

Op's Idea, you would probably barely get 40, while he and anyone on the 100 or less side would probably get double or triple that with the enlightenment, cuz with 496 CP enlightenment isn't helping you as much as it's helping him. He wants a flat XP value. Everybody gets the same XP value.

Epona222 · May 2016

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Do you guys all have a different kind of CP than me? Cause I'm looking at my campion points and thinking, "Wow, 40 bonus CP is not going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference. "

How are you guys spending it in such a fashion that you actually give a ***? Especially if you aren't already V16. You're not doing end game anything, then what difference does 40 CP mean, it's just...

Oh, it's 4 free veteran ranks that you don't have to work for. Now I see why you care.

There's quite a bit difference between 0 CP and 501 CP - just as an example, if you have a lot of DoT attacks, then 70+ points in Thaumaturge can make a lot of difference.

Yeah, absolutely, but the difference between 100 and 140 is really nothing to get worked up about.

Quite true, 40 CP split between warrior, mage, thief, is not a great deal to worry about

THBronx · May 2016

C'mon op, it's a MMO game, you just need to play more....or you could try some casual games, maybe a FPS, or MOBA.

nimander99 · May 2016

Gamerscape2007 wrote: »

I don't think people realize is the fact once the current cp cap will be lifted, this will matter since the people are 40 cp more powerful, and the people who are under 501 Cp will be gimped. Telling the op that "His tears are delicious" Is just a strawman argument at best.

You never stop earning CP's... Just because you cap at 501 doesnt mean you no longer earn exp and CP's. You continue to earn CP's they are just unusable till the cap is raised. What you said is rendered moot by that.

nimander99 · May 2016

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I'm unclear as to why people think that if they play for 3 hours every month they should be as leveled up as people who play for 3 hours every day - I have yet to have anyone explain that to me in terms that don't pretty much sum up to "waaaaah, waaaaah".

Sorry, but that's just the way it comes across.

Don't be sorry. Just people wanting stuff they didn't earn. I don't put in near as much time as some of the hardcore players, but I don't want to have stuff given to me because of it.

Both of you are spot on. What @Epona222 and @GivvumBoane have said is FACT if you disagree then you are, of course entitled to your wrong opinion and I will enjoy drinking your tears

Jack_Handey · May 2016

I stopped playing pc because I've been at cp cap for what is starting to feel like a long time, raise the cap and show players who put in the time that it's worth our time to still play!

All of you who want the world given to them get over yourselves and think about how the maxed out cp people feel... We get no reward for putting in the time and in an mmo that's bad.

Darth_Trumpious · May 2016

GivvumBoane wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I'm unclear as to why people think that if they play for 3 hours every month they should be as leveled up as people who play for 3 hours every day - I have yet to have anyone explain that to me in terms that don't pretty much sum up to "waaaaah, waaaaah".

Sorry, but that's just the way it comes across.

Don't be sorry. Just people wanting stuff they didn't earn. I don't put in near as much time as some of the hardcore players, but I don't want to have stuff given to me because of it.

+1 on agree and insightful.

Now I just need the "LOL" button back so I can give the OP what he wants

nimander99 · May 2016

Jack_Handey wrote: »

I stopped playing pc because I've been at cp cap for what is starting to feel like a long time, raise the cap and show players who put in the time that it's worth our time to still play!

All of you who want the world given to them get over yourselves and think about how the maxed out cp people feel... We get no reward for putting in the time and in an mmo that's bad.

Yeah I hear ya, you dont stop earning CP's you just cant use them and thats frustrating... It's why I intentionally slowed my leveling WAY down on my main.

Taisynn · May 2016

This thread is way, way too whiney... I'd be likely to take you seriously if the argument was more than "it isn't fair!"

The people are getting compensated since they leveled up all the way to V16 and now those levels are being taken away. All that hard work and time. Poof. They deserve to be compensated for something they LOST. Especially those who loved veteran levels, like me... And are sad to see them go.