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Useless Hirelings

FatKidHatchets
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Due to the uselessness of higherlings, I remorphed and took my skill points back. If the little twerp can't bring in valuable materials he don't work here no more.

But for real, I did fire them, I have no room or use for their garbage. I will never sub to this bull *** game as they already sold me 8k crown I might never use.

Make them useful.
  • susmitds
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    Hirelings are free!
  • Volkodav
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Hirelings are free!

    Nope.They are gained through skill points.
  • Volkodav
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    Due to the uselessness of higherlings, I remorphed and took my skill points back. If the little twerp can't bring in valuable materials he don't work here no more.

    But for real, I did fire them, I have no room or use for their garbage. I will never sub to this bull *** game as they already sold me 8k crown I might never use.

    Make them useful.

    How did they sell you 8k crowns? You have to buy them.They dont just give crowns away.
  • imenace
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    buddy they arent useless, i tend to get 200 non refined mats & a couple of gold upgrades in 5 days ( have 3/3 hirelings on 7 characters
  • FatKidHatchets
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Due to the uselessness of higherlings, I remorphed and took my skill points back. If the little twerp can't bring in valuable materials he don't work here no more.

    But for real, I did fire them, I have no room or use for their garbage. I will never sub to this bull *** game as they already sold me 8k crown I might never use.

    Make them useful.

    How did they sell you 8k crowns? You have to buy them.They dont just give crowns away.

    Not very good with understanding verbs are we lol

    For them to 'sell'

    I had to 'buy'

    Noone said anything about giving away anything.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Some people don't like free stuff. The more you invest in the craft, the better the outcome you get from hirelings. If you don't put points into higher materials and potency runes, then expect to get nothing but junk. The more characters with 10/10 in materials and 3/3 hirelings you're more likely to get a lot better items.
  • Volkodav
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Due to the uselessness of higherlings, I remorphed and took my skill points back. If the little twerp can't bring in valuable materials he don't work here no more.

    But for real, I did fire them, I have no room or use for their garbage. I will never sub to this bull *** game as they already sold me 8k crown I might never use.

    Make them useful.

    How did they sell you 8k crowns? You have to buy them.They dont just give crowns away.

    Not very good with understanding verbs are we lol

    For them to 'sell'

    I had to 'buy'

    Noone said anything about giving away anything.

    Yeah,lol.I misread it. XD
  • AmberLaTerra
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    I believe he means the crafting hirelings, who do indeed have an extremely rare rate of bringing decent items for the price of 3 skill points each.
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  • FatKidHatchets
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    imenace wrote: »
    buddy they arent useless, i tend to get 200 non refined mats & a couple of gold upgrades in 5 days ( have 3/3 hirelings on 7 characters

    You can go to wrothgar or hews bane and get 200 of each mat in 15 -30 mins. 5 days, 7 chars. Mats good for next to nothing. Taking up inventory space. My banks full my characters full. I have unlocked everything.

    Again they are useless.
  • Smileybones
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    I believe he means the crafting hirelings, who do indeed have an extremely rare rate of bringing decent items for the price of 3 skill points each.

    And everyone knows that skills points are very rare and hard to get.

    Also, if you cared reading the emails, each hireling tells a story which goes on everyday, but who cares about stories in a roleplaying game ?
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    How did they "[sell you] 8k Crowns"? Was it an extremely pushy and convincing salesman to which you now regret falling for his rhetoric?

    Anyway, in regards to Hirelings, gathering 3, 6 or even 9 Skyshards (assuming you're not at the cap) is IMO a worthwhile cost for getting a steady stream of materials.
  • MikeB
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    Hirelings are garbage. Getting mats I already have hundreds, if not thousands of, is pointless and a waste of skill points. Especially since almost all of the mats have literally no value to even a vendor. Not everyone spends the 10's of hours it takes getting skyshards or doing the mind knumbingly boring quest more than once.
    Edited by MikeB on May 20, 2016 7:23AM
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    imenace wrote: »
    buddy they arent useless, i tend to get 200 non refined mats & a couple of gold upgrades in 5 days ( have 3/3 hirelings on 7 characters

    You can go to wrothgar or hews bane and get 200 of each mat in 15 -30 mins. 5 days, 7 chars. Mats good for next to nothing. Taking up inventory space. My banks full my characters full. I have unlocked everything.

    Again they are useless.

    I'm guessing you're just swimming in Gold mats like Tempering Alloys and Dreugh Wax aren't you? :open_mouth:
  • Volkodav
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    imenace wrote: »
    buddy they arent useless, i tend to get 200 non refined mats & a couple of gold upgrades in 5 days ( have 3/3 hirelings on 7 characters

    You can go to wrothgar or hews bane and get 200 of each mat in 15 -30 mins. 5 days, 7 chars. Mats good for next to nothing. Taking up inventory space. My banks full my characters full. I have unlocked everything.

    Again they are useless.

    I'm guessing you're just swimming in Gold mats like Tempering Alloys and Dreugh Wax aren't you? :open_mouth:

    I've never gotten anything gold yet in two years.
  • MikeB
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    imenace wrote: »
    buddy they arent useless, i tend to get 200 non refined mats & a couple of gold upgrades in 5 days ( have 3/3 hirelings on 7 characters

    You can go to wrothgar or hews bane and get 200 of each mat in 15 -30 mins. 5 days, 7 chars. Mats good for next to nothing. Taking up inventory space. My banks full my characters full. I have unlocked everything.

    Again they are useless.

    I'm guessing you're just swimming in Gold mats like Tempering Alloys and Dreugh Wax aren't you? :open_mouth:

    Yeah because you get those often... I average 1 of each a month through hirelings or I can get 5+ of anyone i want in an hour of farming.
    Edited by MikeB on May 20, 2016 7:26AM
  • FatKidHatchets
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    imenace wrote: »
    buddy they arent useless, i tend to get 200 non refined mats & a couple of gold upgrades in 5 days ( have 3/3 hirelings on 7 characters

    You can go to wrothgar or hews bane and get 200 of each mat in 15 -30 mins. 5 days, 7 chars. Mats good for next to nothing. Taking up inventory space. My banks full my characters full. I have unlocked everything.

    Again they are useless.

    I'm guessing you're just swimming in Gold mats like Tempering Alloys and Dreugh Wax aren't you? :open_mouth:

    Dreugh wax everyone should be swimming in, you go to old orsinium run the circle leveling a char by the time the character is v1 you will have enough scrap to get 50-100 wax.

    Tempering alloy its just a matter of putting in the grind work, i just hate mindlessly picking up mats for hours. That does strike me as fun. I have golded out i think about 8 heavy sets. But im a fickle *** and like to try them all.
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    How did they "[sell you] 8k Crowns"? Was it an extremely pushy and convincing salesman to which you now regret falling for his rhetoric?

    Anyway, in regards to Hirelings, gathering 3, 6 or even 9 Skyshards (assuming you're not at the cap) is IMO a worthwhile cost for getting a steady stream of materials.
    If there's a sale and you buy something that you have no use for, the responsibility is on yourself.

    For example, if I walk in to a shop and buy 100 gold-plated and personalised left-handed scissors because they were reduced to £1 from £1,000. Then when I get home I realise that I'm actually right-handed and have no use for these, it's not the shop's fault.

    It's not as if either would say "Wait a minute, Customer. We want to make sure your purchases are going to have some use for you in the future so please can you select the options for which you're intending on using these for before we approve your purchase. Thanks".

    Anyway, seeing as you're not going to sub again and have an abundance of Crowns. Have you considered using them for:
    1. Future/existing DLCs
    2. Mount and bag upgrades for existing/new characters
    3. Experience scrolls for existing/new characters
    4. New/existing Motif packs

    There are a lot of potential uses for your Crowns, if not now but at some point in the future. I expect you're just blinded by your current anger.

    [edit to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on May 20, 2016 2:01PM
  • FatKidHatchets
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    Wasn't asking for a refund sweetpea. Nore was there any blame assigned on the crown they sold me. You infereed it ;) .

    DLC's? They have been one disappointment after another. Well, wrothgar was alright. But the TG was ass, writing was wretched player interaction with the underworld was crap. And the map layout was small as hell. The fixes\upgrades didn't even all make it in and the ones that did came with exploitable bugs such as the banker.

    No I won't sub to a game that passes a grade A game off to a *** sub development team who can't pull their heads out of their ass. When customer base drops, thats the sign you messed up.

    Now lets get back on point.

    The point is I have no inventory space fore the useless higherling ***. Its not worth hanging onto anyways. So rather than delete the items from my inventory every every 12 hours I fired him.

    I would like him to be useful and bring *** of value. Maybe even less often. Hell i'd take a once a week higherling if he brough garunteed tempers each time.
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    MikeB wrote: »
    Hirelings are garbage. Getting mats I already have hundreds, if not thousands of, is pointless and a waste of skill points. Especially since almost all of the mats have literally no value to even a vendor. Not everyone spends the 10's of hours it takes getting skyshards or doing the mind knumbingly boring quest more than once.

    A. Those useless materials that you have thousands of that the hirelings give you? You do realize that refining those is a great way to get the tempers you're looking for, right?

    B. What exactly do you like in ESO? If you find the quests mind-numbingly boring, you may be playing the wrong game.
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  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    Wasn't asking for a refund sweetpea. Nore was there any blame assigned on the crown they sold me. You infereed it ;) .

    DLC's? They have been one disappointment after another. Well, wrothgar was alright. But the TG was ass, writing was wretched player interaction with the underworld was crap. And the map layout was small as hell. The fixes\upgrades didn't even all make it in and the ones that did came with exploitable bugs such as the banker.

    No I won't sub to a game that passes a grade A game off to a *** sub development team who can't pull their heads out of their ass. When customer base drops, thats the sign you messed up.

    Now lets get back on point.

    The point is I have no inventory space fore the useless higherling ***. Its not worth hanging onto anyways. So rather than delete the items from my inventory every every 12 hours I fired him.

    I would like him to be useful and bring *** of value. Maybe even less often. Hell i'd take a once a week higherling if he brough garunteed tempers each time.
    You also incorrectly inferred that I was suggesting you wanted a refund ;) I wasn't, I was suggesting that you blame ZOS for selling you 8k Crowns. Rightly or wrongly inferred, that's the impression I took from your OP.

    The return for gold mats for Hirelings is low, I agree, however given the minimal effort it takes to get these I don't see that as an issue. I actually only got 1 (one!!) Ancestor Silk from my maxed Hireling yesterday, nothing else. No idea who dreamt that delivery up.

    Hopefully when the DB comes out with Crafting Bags there will be chance for non-£/$/¥/€ subbers to gain access to it, either through subbing via Crowns or a Crown purchase.
  • Volkodav
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    Wasn't asking for a refund sweetpea. Nore was there any blame assigned on the crown they sold me. You infereed it ;) .

    This kinda makes it seem as if you were annoyed at them for selling you crowns:
    " they already sold me 8k crown I might never use."
    They didnt sell them to you,sweetpea,you bought them from the crown store.

    Just sayin,..:)
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Wasn't asking for a refund sweetpea. Nore was there any blame assigned on the crown they sold me. You infereed it ;) .

    This kinda makes it seem as if you were annoyed at them for selling you crowns:
    " they already sold me 8k crown I might never use."
    They didnt sell them to you,sweetpea,you bought them from the crown store.

    Just sayin,..:)
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  • FatKidHatchets
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    MikeB wrote: »
    Hirelings are garbage. Getting mats I already have hundreds, if not thousands of, is pointless and a waste of skill points. Especially since almost all of the mats have literally no value to even a vendor. Not everyone spends the 10's of hours it takes getting skyshards or doing the mind knumbingly boring quest more than once.

    A. Those useless materials that you have thousands of that the hirelings give you? You do realize that refining those is a great way to get the tempers you're looking for, right?

    B. What exactly do you like in ESO? If you find the quests mind-numbingly boring, you may be playing the wrong game.

    A) once refined they are trash. Even holding onto them long enough to get enough to refine them is a nuissance as it takes months to build up enough to matter.

    B) Quests are done. Its not about being mind numbing. PvP used to be nice till most of the good players gave up and moved on. Now, I do what all good MMO players do when their MMO is dieing...

    Point out bad stuff in posts, suggest ideas, and wait for when the dev team gets their head out their ass or replaced and the cycle starts all over again.
  • Duiwel
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    ....the uselessness of higherlings...If the little twerp can't bring in valuable materials he don't work here no more....

    I laughed so hard thank you for being awesome OP :mrgreen:
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  • Volkodav
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Wasn't asking for a refund sweetpea. Nore was there any blame assigned on the crown they sold me. You infereed it ;) .

    This kinda makes it seem as if you were annoyed at them for selling you crowns:
    " they already sold me 8k crown I might never use."
    They didnt sell them to you,sweetpea,you bought them from the crown store.

    Just sayin,..:)
    Thanks, Mum :*

    You're quite welcome,dear. :)
  • CaptainBeerDude
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    How refreshing to see another tantrum. You seem to be complaining about multiple issues under the heading of 'Useless Hirelings'.
    Basically, if you don't feel that they are worth the SP's, don't get these upgrades. Quit the qq about a game system that gives you effortless items, just because you feel they aren't useful. Go farm mats. Or gold and the buy the tempers. And don't expect the crafter hireling to give one of your toons items that they can't craft with.
    And I'm sure you'll have some super edgy comeback about how you are amazing and the game is holding you down, but just remember that my hirelings do give me tempers. Maybe you should try believing in RNGesus.
  • Jim_Pipp
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    It would be fantastic if the little twerps (hirelings) would stop sending common racial style stones. It would be great if the stones had a value of even one gold so that they could be sold instead of destroyed.

    Not to rub it in, but I got 8 dreugh wax this week (have 5 top level clothing hirelings working for me!)

    And the provisioning hirelings are brilliant, you don't need any other points into provisioning, and ever day get at least 40 mats per hireling. My crafter will turn those 40 mats into 100 vet 15 green foods worth 5 gold each. Every few months I watch a movie while cooking up all the stored ingredients and easily get 60,000 gold.
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  • danno8
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    It is worth it for provisioning, since they are the only source of the purple ingredients required for the highest level food/drink.

    For the rest, unfortunately ZoS rebalanced them around a year ago around those people who have 8 crafting alts, so where you used to be able to get a gold temper at around a 20% chance, your chances now are at something like 1%.

    I agree, for those with just one top level crafter the hirelings are extremely underwhelming. If you are strapped for skill points I would drop them.
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    Usuallu get some gold matts each week. Sometimes skip a week. While se used to get more gold matts via hirelings it was long ago this was changed so we got most of our gold matts via writs.


    They ain't gonna change it back.
  • Callous2208
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    What the hell was the point of this tantrum? Put your three skill points in some other *** and get to school. For *** sake people. Complaining about free, effortless stuff now.
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on May 20, 2016 2:10PM
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