Well i run it often now and its quite good as is.

Esp woth 3 jewel and only 2 armor leaving 5 for hunding and 2 for nmg.

I really can't wait for this set to get weapons added.

The 5 seconds this set bonus isn't applying is almost negligible, most of the time, enemies are dead before the set bonus is down and most bosses don't last longer than 2-3 cycles of Briarheart anyways so making it so the set bonus is up almost 100% of the time would just be overkill IMO.

Really wish I could get VR16 rings for this set though. RNGeses must be displeased with me to deny me them for this long.

Sidenote: I'd personally prefer if ZoS would make the armor in a style that isn't an affront to my eyeballs versus any other changes

STEVIL wrote: »

Well i run it often now and its quite good as is.

Esp woth 3 jewel and only 2 armor leaving 5 for hunding and 2 for nmg.

drumbendrum_ESO wrote: »

It's only 5 seconds without the set bonus, and is amazing in pve as is. If it were 10 seconds it would have near 100% up time which it should just be a flat set bonus with no down time, which would make it OP! Just my 2 cents I use it though and like it a lot.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I really can't wait for this set to get weapons added.

The 5 seconds this set bonus isn't applying is almost negligible, most of the time, enemies are dead before the set bonus is down and most bosses don't last longer than 2-3 cycles of Briarheart anyways so making it so the set bonus is up almost 100% of the time would just be overkill IMO.

Really wish I could get VR16 rings for this set though. RNGeses must be displeased with me to deny me them for this long.

Thal wrote: »

I'd prefer 15 up with a 20 sec cooldown but you can't have it all

It's a pretty versatile set as it is for PvE - the healing isn't a joke either when you combine it with Caltrops/arrows/poisons etc

Briarheart averages 280-299 weapon damage. So you're getting a Hundings with a heal...as rear as this set is, we should be getting a he'll of a lot more for the time investment that is required into farming this. Also for those that mention the 3 jewelry/2 armor combo. This patch 4 Alkosh 1 kena is better, next patch 5 ravager will also be better...Idamn like this set to be more competitive...as it stands it's not used in high end PvE...

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Well i run it often now and its quite good as is.

Esp woth 3 jewel and only 2 armor leaving 5 for hunding and 2 for nmg.

drumbendrum_ESO wrote: »

It's only 5 seconds without the set bonus, and is amazing in pve as is. If it were 10 seconds it would have near 100% up time which it should just be a flat set bonus with no down time, which would make it OP! Just my 2 cents I use it though and like it a lot.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I really can't wait for this set to get weapons added.

The 5 seconds this set bonus isn't applying is almost negligible, most of the time, enemies are dead before the set bonus is down and most bosses don't last longer than 2-3 cycles of Briarheart anyways so making it so the set bonus is up almost 100% of the time would just be overkill IMO.

Really wish I could get VR16 rings for this set though. RNGeses must be displeased with me to deny me them for this long.

Thal wrote: »

I'd prefer 15 up with a 20 sec cooldown but you can't have it all

It's a pretty versatile set as it is for PvE - the healing isn't a joke either when you combine it with Caltrops/arrows/poisons etc

Briarheart averages 280-299 weapon damage. So you're getting a Hundings with a heal...as rear as this set is, we should be getting a he'll of a lot more for the time investment that is required into farming this. Also for those that mention the 3 jewelry/2 armor combo. This patch 4 Alkosh 1 kena is better, next patch 5 ravager will also be better...Idamn like this set to be more competitive...as it stands it's not used in high end PvE...

If you can actually get Alkosh that is. All I've ever gotten of Alkosh is a 2h Axe from my weekly leaderboard rewards.

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Well i run it often now and its quite good as is.

Esp woth 3 jewel and only 2 armor leaving 5 for hunding and 2 for nmg.

drumbendrum_ESO wrote: »

It's only 5 seconds without the set bonus, and is amazing in pve as is. If it were 10 seconds it would have near 100% up time which it should just be a flat set bonus with no down time, which would make it OP! Just my 2 cents I use it though and like it a lot.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I really can't wait for this set to get weapons added.

The 5 seconds this set bonus isn't applying is almost negligible, most of the time, enemies are dead before the set bonus is down and most bosses don't last longer than 2-3 cycles of Briarheart anyways so making it so the set bonus is up almost 100% of the time would just be overkill IMO.

Really wish I could get VR16 rings for this set though. RNGeses must be displeased with me to deny me them for this long.

Thal wrote: »

I'd prefer 15 up with a 20 sec cooldown but you can't have it all

It's a pretty versatile set as it is for PvE - the healing isn't a joke either when you combine it with Caltrops/arrows/poisons etc

Briarheart averages 280-299 weapon damage. So you're getting a Hundings with a heal...as rear as this set is, we should be getting a he'll of a lot more for the time investment that is required into farming this. Also for those that mention the 3 jewelry/2 armor combo. This patch 4 Alkosh 1 kena is better, next patch 5 ravager will also be better...Idamn like this set to be more competitive...as it stands it's not used in high end PvE...

So "Hundings with a heal" needs a buff. Good one! It's fine the way it is.

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Well i run it often now and its quite good as is.

Esp woth 3 jewel and only 2 armor leaving 5 for hunding and 2 for nmg.

drumbendrum_ESO wrote: »

It's only 5 seconds without the set bonus, and is amazing in pve as is. If it were 10 seconds it would have near 100% up time which it should just be a flat set bonus with no down time, which would make it OP! Just my 2 cents I use it though and like it a lot.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I really can't wait for this set to get weapons added.

The 5 seconds this set bonus isn't applying is almost negligible, most of the time, enemies are dead before the set bonus is down and most bosses don't last longer than 2-3 cycles of Briarheart anyways so making it so the set bonus is up almost 100% of the time would just be overkill IMO.

Really wish I could get VR16 rings for this set though. RNGeses must be displeased with me to deny me them for this long.

Thal wrote: »

I'd prefer 15 up with a 20 sec cooldown but you can't have it all

It's a pretty versatile set as it is for PvE - the healing isn't a joke either when you combine it with Caltrops/arrows/poisons etc

Briarheart averages 280-299 weapon damage. So you're getting a Hundings with a heal...as rear as this set is, we should be getting a he'll of a lot more for the time investment that is required into farming this. Also for those that mention the 3 jewelry/2 armor combo. This patch 4 Alkosh 1 kena is better, next patch 5 ravager will also be better...Idamn like this set to be more competitive...as it stands it's not used in high end PvE...

If you can actually get Alkosh that is. All I've ever gotten of Alkosh is a 2h Axe from my weekly leaderboard rewards.

Still, briartheart doesn't offer much over hundings and agility paired with Kena outshines it by a mile. And even if u just use agility and 1 kena and 1 other item which gives weps damage it is only marginally better because of the increased crit...this shouldn't be the case with such a hard to get set.

The only really hard parts to get are the VR16 purple Jewelry if we're being honest with ourselves here. Since every chest in Wrothgar, Hew's Bane and IC has a chance at dropping Briarheart/Trinimac/Pariah gear, you can get a full set of it fairly easily compared to something like Alkosh which requires a good leaderboard score or to actually succeed at vMoL, which very few people can do. I got most of my Briarheart gear while farming IC for the Alliance motifs so it can't be as difficult as you make it sound (again discounting the Jewelry of course).

While I wouldn't be against if Briarheart go buffed to be more on par with Scathing Mage, which does have a good chance at being up 100% of the time with a High Crit Force Pulse Build, the set is still decent regardless and once weapons are added to it as well, it might actually be much more valuable because then you'll have much greater flexibility in what you can wear with it.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Well i run it often now and its quite good as is.

Esp woth 3 jewel and only 2 armor leaving 5 for hunding and 2 for nmg.

drumbendrum_ESO wrote: »

It's only 5 seconds without the set bonus, and is amazing in pve as is. If it were 10 seconds it would have near 100% up time which it should just be a flat set bonus with no down time, which would make it OP! Just my 2 cents I use it though and like it a lot.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I really can't wait for this set to get weapons added.

The 5 seconds this set bonus isn't applying is almost negligible, most of the time, enemies are dead before the set bonus is down and most bosses don't last longer than 2-3 cycles of Briarheart anyways so making it so the set bonus is up almost 100% of the time would just be overkill IMO.

Really wish I could get VR16 rings for this set though. RNGeses must be displeased with me to deny me them for this long.

Thal wrote: »

I'd prefer 15 up with a 20 sec cooldown but you can't have it all

It's a pretty versatile set as it is for PvE - the healing isn't a joke either when you combine it with Caltrops/arrows/poisons etc

Briarheart averages 280-299 weapon damage. So you're getting a Hundings with a heal...as rear as this set is, we should be getting a he'll of a lot more for the time investment that is required into farming this. Also for those that mention the 3 jewelry/2 armor combo. This patch 4 Alkosh 1 kena is better, next patch 5 ravager will also be better...Idamn like this set to be more competitive...as it stands it's not used in high end PvE...

If you can actually get Alkosh that is. All I've ever gotten of Alkosh is a 2h Axe from my weekly leaderboard rewards.

Still, briartheart doesn't offer much over hundings and agility paired with Kena outshines it by a mile. And even if u just use agility and 1 kena and 1 other item which gives weps damage it is only marginally better because of the increased crit...this shouldn't be the case with such a hard to get set.

The only really hard parts to get are the VR16 purple Jewelry if we're being honest with ourselves here. Since every chest in Wrothgar, Hew's Bane and IC has a chance at dropping Briarheart/Trinimac/Pariah gear, you can get a full set of it fairly easily compared to something like Alkosh which requires a good leaderboard score or to actually succeed at vMoL, which very few people can do. I got most of my Briarheart gear while farming IC for the Alliance motifs so it can't be as difficult as you make it sound (again discounting the Jewelry of course).

While I wouldn't be against if Briarheart go buffed to be more on par with Scathing Mage, which does have a good chance at being up 100% of the time with a High Crit Force Pulse Build, the set is still decent regardless and once weapons are added to it as well, it might actually be much more valuable because then you'll have much greater flexibility in what you can wear with it.

The issue is that it's not much better than Hundings and if you lose more than 1 second on its uptime then it becomes a lot worse than the stock 3 agility 1 kena 3 Night mothers 5 hundings combo...it needs to be buffed so that it's worth it to farm it. In the next patch I would definitely not run ithe, since the alternatives are so much better (Ravager/Alkosh).

Danksta wrote: »

I see where you're coming from, but to me Hunding's should be taken down a notch then, or require 9 traits. Actually I have no idea why one of, if not the best, stamina DPS sets (crafted or otherwise) only requires 6 traits to craft. You could say the same for Julianos.

well 9 trait does outshine the 6 trait sets in terms of dps for both stam and mag for crafted gear, many of the harder to grind sets should be buffed due to the amount of rng it takes to get them, including a couple of the new trial sets that are basically worthless.

why introduce gear in a dlc thats relatively difficult to get and have it comparable or worse than crafted sets? dont nerf the crafted sets, find a way to make the others more desirable

Doncellius wrote: »

Let's be perfectly honest here people.... Briarheart is difficult to obtain, but VERY powerful when used correctly! (Stack DoTs)

It is far more valuable than Hunding's Rage due to strong survivability, though provides slightly less DPS.

All I would ever ask is to raise the RNG chance of drops being V16 instead of V15

My OP PvE Stamplar will use:

1x Molag Kena
1x Blood Spawn
5x Briarheart
3x Agility/Endurance
1x Maelstrom Two Hander
1x Maelstrom Bow

OR

5x Briarheart
5x Hunding's Rage
1x Maelstrom Two Hander
1x Maelstrom Bow

You understand that because of the cooldown it equals hundings in weapon damage if you proc it on cooldown and much worse if there is a delay in proc...the heal is negligent because it's so small...maybe it has uses in PvP, but definitely not pve

Doncellius wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

Let's be perfectly honest here people.... Briarheart is difficult to obtain, but VERY powerful when used correctly! (Stack DoTs)

It is far more valuable than Hunding's Rage due to strong survivability, though provides slightly less DPS.

All I would ever ask is to raise the RNG chance of drops being V16 instead of V15

My OP PvE Stamplar will use:

1x Molag Kena
1x Blood Spawn
5x Briarheart
3x Agility/Endurance
1x Maelstrom Two Hander
1x Maelstrom Bow

OR

5x Briarheart
5x Hunding's Rage
1x Maelstrom Two Hander
1x Maelstrom Bow

You understand that because of the cooldown it equals hundings in weapon damage if you proc it on cooldown and much worse if there is a delay in proc...the heal is negligent because it's so small...maybe it has uses in PvP, but definitely not pve

It's powerful in PvE for a Stamplar. Solo content like vMA or solo Vet Dungeons can become far easier with those heals. When using Caltrops+Volley+Jabs, lots of Crits happen and the proc will be up almost as soon as the cooldown passes. Major Mending should also buff the heal.

Point is, this is not at all a bad set. Sure you won't use it in place of the always and forever BiS For Pure DPS set: Hunding's Rage, but it is a fun set to play around with

Any build that has a high crit chance and tons of DoTs will gain massive heals from the bonus.

EDIT: Is there an internal cooldown on the actual healing procs while the 10sec Briarthorns buff is active? If not, this is a great set in the right hands.

Ok let me correct myself, PvP and Arena, this set can be useful. In trials it will be comparable to hundings. If this set was BoE, I wouldn't say anything, but seeing as this set is Bob and is very difficult to acquire in the right traits, it should be buff3d to have a 10 second cooldown versus the current 15.

Doncellius wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

Let's be perfectly honest here people.... Briarheart is difficult to obtain, but VERY powerful when used correctly! (Stack DoTs)

It is far more valuable than Hunding's Rage due to strong survivability, though provides slightly less DPS.

All I would ever ask is to raise the RNG chance of drops being V16 instead of V15

My OP PvE Stamplar will use:

1x Molag Kena
1x Blood Spawn
5x Briarheart
3x Agility/Endurance
1x Maelstrom Two Hander
1x Maelstrom Bow

OR

5x Briarheart
5x Hunding's Rage
1x Maelstrom Two Hander
1x Maelstrom Bow

You understand that because of the cooldown it equals hundings in weapon damage if you proc it on cooldown and much worse if there is a delay in proc...the heal is negligent because it's so small...maybe it has uses in PvP, but definitely not pve

It's powerful in PvE for a Stamplar. Solo content like vMA or solo Vet Dungeons can become far easier with those heals. When using Caltrops+Volley+Jabs, lots of Crits happen and the proc will be up almost as soon as the cooldown passes. Major Mending should also buff the heal.

Point is, this is not at all a bad set. Sure you won't use it in place of the always and forever BiS For Pure DPS set: Hunding's Rage, but it is a fun set to play around with

Any build that has a high crit chance and tons of DoTs will gain massive heals from the bonus.

EDIT: Is there an internal cooldown on the actual healing procs while the 10sec Briarthorns buff is active? If not, this is a great set in the right hands.

Ok let me correct myself, PvP and Arena, this set can be useful. In trials it will be comparable to hundings. If this set was BoE, I wouldn't say anything, but seeing as this set is Bob and is very difficult to acquire in the right traits, it should be buff3d to have a 10 second cooldown versus the current 15.

Just found a Vid about this by Deltia
https://youtu.be/DnudeJekMMU
Anyway, I personally think that the cooldown should remain as is, while the heal itself being able to Crit. If the 5sec cooldown went away, it would become 100% BiS for Stamina DPS builds.

Sorry it's a deltia video, can't watch it. As for Briar being BiS if the cooldown goes away. What's wrong with that? It's a very hard to obtain set, it should provide benefits.