Stop rerolling . I came to DC to be outnumbered and watch what I watch happens in every MMOs PvP . The salt an tears , the quitters and the last of Us becoming stronger and adapting . The best of the best evolve . Let Darwin do his thing .

We're actively fighting for DC every single day except Sunday and Wednesday, those days people are free to play whatever toons they wish. This has been the case since we moved from red, nothing has changed.

See you guys tonight

God_flakes wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I wonder what the queues are like for EP with both normal servers pop locked.

I know when AD pop locks it's usually a light queue.

Since TG dlc, the longest wait was 76 in queue. But it only gets that high on Friday night's.
During the week, I get on average, about a 20 person queue. I never get one during the day, even when it's locked.
But that's just me. Not sure about other EP

Last time I had a queue DC side was over a year ago on Thornblade. And lately I've been playing every night of the week. No queue not even prime time Friday night. Time for you homeboys to reroll.

The population may be problematic but the quality of players DC have still largely balance things out at primetime. There is no reason for EP players who usually play at primetime to reroll DC just yet. AD and DC definitely need an oceanic presence though. Also, with VE playing AD even more lately, the green alliance is about to get real again.

Not that this is a bad thing. AD really needed a strong and active guild on their side on TF and since people from Haderus rarely come on TF, that will do it.

I have it on good authority that Ve is NOT rolling AD. There are one or two who have ad toons and that's it.

DC has many good single players. But many more have abandoned the game leaving us at an even greater disadvantage. Anyone who is AD who was at DC last night can attest to how bad many DC are. Just ask JDar how chaotic and disorganized our zone is. The ridiculousness at DC last night highlights how bad many DC are and how bad the so called AD leet are who refuse to engage players who are on par with them and prefer to rather engage only noobs and scrubs who throw themselves against a brick wall again and again. Thus, the lowbrow state of pvp anymore. And when you confront these AD leetists their response is "I'm having fun. I don't care about the map".

I feel like you are quoting something I said last night after all your colorful rage tells. Remember the other day when I congratulated your group's pathetic attempt to take fare behind reds? Remember your answer? "I'm just here for the ap" Please stop trying to shame people into playing the game the way you want them to.

Mocking me and my friends defending fare from EP and DC by telling me you are farming ap there? How clueless I am indeed.
I don't read your every word, it was pretty obvious from last night that you were gonna post something about it. And crazy people posts are pretty much the only form of entertainment I have at work

God_flakes wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I wonder what the queues are like for EP with both normal servers pop locked.

I know when AD pop locks it's usually a light queue.

Since TG dlc, the longest wait was 76 in queue. But it only gets that high on Friday night's.
During the week, I get on average, about a 20 person queue. I never get one during the day, even when it's locked.
But that's just me. Not sure about other EP

Last time I had a queue DC side was over a year ago on Thornblade. And lately I've been playing every night of the week. No queue not even prime time Friday night. Time for you homeboys to reroll.

The population may be problematic but the quality of players DC have still largely balance things out at primetime. There is no reason for EP players who usually play at primetime to reroll DC just yet. AD and DC definitely need an oceanic presence though. Also, with VE playing AD even more lately, the green alliance is about to get real again.

Not that this is a bad thing. AD really needed a strong and active guild on their side on TF and since people from Haderus rarely come on TF, that will do it.

I have it on good authority that Ve is NOT rolling AD. There are one or two who have ad toons and that's it.

DC has many good single players. But many more have abandoned the game leaving us at an even greater disadvantage. Anyone who is AD who was at DC last night can attest to how bad many DC are. Just ask JDar how chaotic and disorganized our zone is. The ridiculousness at DC last night highlights how bad many DC are and how bad the so called AD leet are who refuse to engage players who are on par with them and prefer to rather engage only noobs and scrubs who throw themselves against a brick wall again and again. Thus, the lowbrow state of pvp anymore. And when you confront these AD leetists their response is "I'm having fun. I don't care about the map".

I never said they were rerolling. I said they were playing more and more AD lately.
It is not only 2 or 3 of them.

This being said, I think every EP who was playing last night can confirm that the 60-70 DC horde who moved from Aleswell to Bleakers to Chalman in the beginning of primetime shows that they still have a strong presence and are more than competitive. I literally didn't even try to engage since the lag was so brutal as they moved from one place to another.

"Strong presence" and "competitive"...some nights, for a few hours, prime time. We're not the ones with a constant poplock and queue....which was the only point of my OP. C u tonight, Frozy.

I never said you had a strong presence during the whole day. Here is a quote of my previous post :

frozywozy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I wonder what the queues are like for EP with both normal servers pop locked.

I know when AD pop locks it's usually a light queue.

Since TG dlc, the longest wait was 76 in queue. But it only gets that high on Friday night's.
During the week, I get on average, about a 20 person queue. I never get one during the day, even when it's locked.
But that's just me. Not sure about other EP

Last time I had a queue DC side was over a year ago on Thornblade. And lately I've been playing every night of the week. No queue not even prime time Friday night. Time for you homeboys to reroll.

The population may be problematic but the quality of players DC have still largely balance things out at primetime. There is no reason for EP players who usually play at primetime to reroll DC just yet. AD and DC definitely need an oceanic presence though. Also, with VE playing AD even more lately, the green alliance is about to get real again.

Not that this is a bad thing. AD really needed a strong and active guild on their side on TF and since people from Haderus rarely come on TF, that will do it.

DC was potatoeing Dragonclaw instead of Chalman? thats something new

Minno wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

DC was potatoeing Dragonclaw instead of Chalman? thats something new

Usually we are too elitist to take back the keep that shares the same initials lol.

I know right!? LOL its all good though!

D/C and E/P pretty much control the map, AD on N/A TrueFlame is the suck as far as population goes, such a shame, but someone has to win and someone has to lose, its ADs turn to be last place atm anyways.

The long and short of faction participation is that no one wants to be farmed. When VE rolled to DC there wasn't a lot of pushback against EP because it was pretty much "attack Aleswell, than get bombed by Havoc." One of my earlier memories was being in Ash inner with literally 50+ DC while 13 Havoc players ran circles in the courtyard. Bulb and I had to convince them to charge out, it was quite an occasion. Essentially, having good guilds on a server pushing things means randoms and others can go to places and push things without simply being farmed.

People more cynically frame it as "the faction only comes out when they're on top" but i see it more as an enjoyment/lack of enjoyment thing. No one logs on to a server to be farmed by VE or Havoc, or Deci. They'll log on where they can win fights, or where their own side has strong groups that take the pressure off.

Also my theory for why DC pop is so low in the day. EP knows there are no DC groups on capable of farming them and DC knows there are no groups on to hold territory. Becomes a self reinforcing cycle.

God_flakes wrote: »

what does EP say to themselves?

"We want to keep winning!We need more better numbers to keep our wins! Join EP to outnumber everyone and win!"

Der er er

You clearly don't ever come to Haderus (PC NA).

That's a perfect description of the AD there.

frozywozy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

WitchyWarrior wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I wonder what the queues are like for EP with both normal servers pop locked.

I know when AD pop locks it's usually a light queue.

Since TG dlc, the longest wait was 76 in queue. But it only gets that high on Friday night's.
During the week, I get on average, about a 20 person queue. I never get one during the day, even when it's locked.
But that's just me. Not sure about other EP

Last time I had a queue DC side was over a year ago on Thornblade. And lately I've been playing every night of the week. No queue not even prime time Friday night. Time for you homeboys to reroll.

The population may be problematic but the quality of players DC have still largely balance things out at primetime. There is no reason for EP players who usually play at primetime to reroll DC just yet. AD and DC definitely need an oceanic presence though. Also, with VE playing AD even more lately, the green alliance is about to get real again.

Not that this is a bad thing. AD really needed a strong and active guild on their side on TF and since people from Haderus rarely come on TF, that will do it.

I have it on good authority that Ve is NOT rolling AD. There are one or two who have ad toons and that's it.

DC has many good single players. But many more have abandoned the game leaving us at an even greater disadvantage. Anyone who is AD who was at DC last night can attest to how bad many DC are. Just ask JDar how chaotic and disorganized our zone is. The ridiculousness at DC last night highlights how bad many DC are and how bad the so called AD leet are who refuse to engage players who are on par with them and prefer to rather engage only noobs and scrubs who throw themselves against a brick wall again and again. Thus, the lowbrow state of pvp anymore. And when you confront these AD leetists their response is "I'm having fun. I don't care about the map".

I never said they were rerolling. I said they were playing more and more AD lately.
It is not only 2 or 3 of them.

This being said, I think every EP who was playing last night can confirm that the 60-70 DC horde who moved from Aleswell to Bleakers to Chalman in the beginning of primetime shows that they still have a strong presence and are more than competitive. I literally didn't even try to engage since the lag was so brutal as they moved from one place to another.

Accurate^

The old DC raid leaders that knew the formula for making the map turn blue , despite being out numbered got either disenfranchised with the developers , the community or other raid leaders that didn't have a clue what they were doing and packed up . Some stayed but just watch from the sidelines . We have a few raid leaders that are learning but far from the days of Gondor and Egypt ... They need more training . But politics ... What ya gonna do ? I just keep fighting .

God_flakes wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

what does EP say to themselves?

"We want to keep winning!We need more better numbers to keep our wins! Join EP to outnumber everyone and win!"

Der er er

You clearly don't ever come to Haderus (PC NA).

That's a perfect description of the AD there.

I peek my head in from time to time, since I guest there, but there's something about the 7 day I've never cared for. I did hear this morning there are a lot of top DC players there...is this true?

Yeah, some (famous?) 1vXers like to come over and farm the mindless hordes at bridges and such. It's way easier to play solo/small group when your skills actually go off.

But like seriously, AD has diminished presence on TF because they are all on Haddy.