SirAndy wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

If you are trying to do scaled DLC content with a new character, yes, you are going to find it to be a challenge.

Dunno, when Orsinium dropped i made a new toon and went there as soon as i left the prison.

The content was stupendously easy.


PS: Didn't use any CP or crafted set gear either, just stuff i looted ...

It seems that the biggest complaint about Wrothgar is how deadly that first encounter is with a new character. They have an an incomplete bar and poor armor. They don't often have good regen, and multiple targets can be an issue. If you can adapt to that, fine, but otherwise, well, at least the wayshrine is close by.

alexanderlecard wrote: »

Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.

Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.

These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.

Yes im a plus member.

Dude, all I can say is this is the easiest game you can possible play in this genre, if anything is killing you you are doing something terribly wrong - unless of course you are trying to solo world bosses or dolmens at lvl 8. The regular quest stuff my 8 year old daughter is mowing through, not sure she even knows how to die.

You should spare the "40 years of gaming" stuff cuz it only embarrasses you more.

Ok what i mean by game scaling .currently almost level 15. Currently doing the one of the undaunted quest.starting cave swarm of spiders .im using magical axe adds stamina and health,medium armor all magical.

Also using fire strike iv not even a fight 3 hits by swarm im dead.im using everything barely touching them.


Mind you this is a level 12 quest im almost lv 15


Current stats
Magic 4
Health 4
Stamnia 5


Health 3726
Physical resistance 1600
Health recovery 150
Weapons critical 13%

Ardent 20
Draconic 17
Earthen 17
Two handed 21
Destruct staff 7
Rest staff 9

Armor 15

Dont wanna sound like a b*tch, but "40 years of gaming" is a silly argument. There are different game genres and if you were, for example, playing only turn based strategies, any action game will be ovewhelming.
The fact that you're ESO+ member also means nothing cause this game is not P2W (Thanks goodness)
And it has nothing to do with scaling, since you're only scaled in instanced dungeons, Cyrodiil and dlc locations.
Also... Make sure you're not standing in red circles and block/interrupt telegraphed attacks. You should've seen that in the tutorial mission. I dont wanna be rude to you, but you really just need to pay attention and lean the basics of the game. "I played X games, Imma pro" attitude wont get you anywhere.

Cuyler wrote: »

alexanderlecard wrote: »

Ok what i mean by game scaling .currently almost level 15. Currently doing the one of the undaunted quest.starting cave swarm of spiders .im using magical axe adds stamina and health,medium armor all magical.

Also using fire strike iv not even a fight 3 hits by swarm im dead.im using everything barely touching them.


Mind you this is a level 12 quest im almost lv 15


Current stats
Magic 4
Health 4
Stamnia 5


Health 3726
Physical resistance 1600
Health recovery 150
Weapons critical 13%

Ardent 20
Draconic 17
Earthen 17
Two handed 21
Destruct staff 7
Rest staff 9

Armor 15

@alexanderlecard please be more specific:

You say, "swarm of spiders" and "undaunted quest". Is this "Spindleclutch", the first undaunted group dungeon for your alliance? This is a group dungeon, and will be very difficult to solo at your level.

You say, "magical" axe and armor. Is this a set gear? or stuff you picked up from questing?

Fire strike is not a skill name. I believe you're referring to Searing Strike?

I'll be trying to help you as much as I can, but you need to use the terminology of the game or else I wont know what your referring to.

Edit: also can you tell me which server and platform you are on?

And give me a full list of the skills on your bar please.

Searing strike yes.us server

Ability bar
Grand healing iv
Searing strike iv
Hardened armor 1
Stonefist iv
Critcal charge iv

alexanderlecard wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Dont wanna sound like a b*tch, but "40 years of gaming" is a silly argument. There are different game genres and if you were, for example, playing only turn based strategies, any action game will be ovewhelming.
The fact that you're ESO+ member also means nothing cause this game is not P2W (Thanks goodness)
And it has nothing to do with scaling, since you're only scaled in instanced dungeons, Cyrodiil and dlc locations.
Also... Make sure you're not standing in red circles and block/interrupt telegraphed attacks. You should've seen that in the tutorial mission. I dont wanna be rude to you, but you really just need to pay attention and lean the basics of the game. "I played X games, Imma pro" attitude wont get you anywhere.

Wasnt about being a pro.you missed the point .im not a noob,ive played and own several thousand games.point was there are problems with scaling especially low level. I know this because eso devlopers contacted me today in email.

Going back looking at patches everyone has dozens fixes for scaling.so now i know its ongoing problem and they are fixing.

Fine in mean time im getting advice from other players here which is helping. Thanks.

Well, that's cool that you have thousands of games.
But in eso you are a newbie and you need to learn it, like any other game, from the scratch. Experience in other similar games might help, but it doesnt guarantee anything (and shouldnt).
You're an adult person, I suppose, so if you really need help, its better to stop acting like a child and discuss actual problems you have.
Also, like I said, scaling has nothing to do with Glenumbra quests. They have fixed level. Dungeon scaling is harsh for players with no crafted gear and champion points, but if you think those lvl 3 mobs are "scaled" its not truth.

P.S. If Glenumbra is too hard for you, Stros M'Kai and Betnikh are a way to go. Those are easier zones.

emily3989 wrote: »

alexanderlecard wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Dont wanna sound like a b*tch, but "40 years of gaming" is a silly argument. There are different game genres and if you were, for example, playing only turn based strategies, any action game will be ovewhelming.
The fact that you're ESO+ member also means nothing cause this game is not P2W (Thanks goodness)
And it has nothing to do with scaling, since you're only scaled in instanced dungeons, Cyrodiil and dlc locations.
Also... Make sure you're not standing in red circles and block/interrupt telegraphed attacks. You should've seen that in the tutorial mission. I dont wanna be rude to you, but you really just need to pay attention and lean the basics of the game. "I played X games, Imma pro" attitude wont get you anywhere.

Wasnt about being a pro.you missed the point .im not a noob,ive played and own several thousand games.point was there are problems with scaling especially low level. I know this because eso devlopers contacted me today in email.

Going back looking at patches everyone has dozens fixes for scaling.so now i know its ongoing problem and they are fixing.

Fine in mean time im getting advice from other players here which is helping. Thanks.

With this experience you would think you would be able to recognize that you are in a group zone trying to solo content that is meant for 4 people...

This ^^
Also, when soloing 4-man dungeons, they're always on char's level, not vr16 scaled, like group finder dungeons. OP seems a bit confused about this.

alexanderlecard wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

alexanderlecard wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Dont wanna sound like a b*tch, but "40 years of gaming" is a silly argument. There are different game genres and if you were, for example, playing only turn based strategies, any action game will be ovewhelming.
The fact that you're ESO+ member also means nothing cause this game is not P2W (Thanks goodness)
And it has nothing to do with scaling, since you're only scaled in instanced dungeons, Cyrodiil and dlc locations.
Also... Make sure you're not standing in red circles and block/interrupt telegraphed attacks. You should've seen that in the tutorial mission. I dont wanna be rude to you, but you really just need to pay attention and lean the basics of the game. "I played X games, Imma pro" attitude wont get you anywhere.

Wasnt about being a pro.you missed the point .im not a noob,ive played and own several thousand games.point was there are problems with scaling especially low level. I know this because eso devlopers contacted me today in email.

Going back looking at patches everyone has dozens fixes for scaling.so now i know its ongoing problem and they are fixing.

Fine in mean time im getting advice from other players here which is helping. Thanks.

With this experience you would think you would be able to recognize that you are in a group zone trying to solo content that is meant for 4 people...

News flash i had other players solo the game gives you 3 others. Besides that if you wanna be a snot dont reply.

Is this English? No idea what you are trying to say, but if you know people that are soloing group dungeons in their starter zones, then, well, you are mistaken sir.

alexanderlecard wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

All I can say is gameplay in ESO is active combat. What I mean by this is to be successful you must block, dodge, interrupt etc or you will get hit hard. If you're just standing there taking it to the face, you're going to have a bad time. Make sure you have active combat tips enabled so you can see the tips of when to block etc.

In offense, you want to stack into one particular attribute for the truck hitting effect....I didn't see you say, are you magic or stamina?

Im both use lot of searing strike iv , magic weapons usually 2 handed. 375-400 with +50 magic,or stamnia.
Heavy armor just hit lv 13 doing white mask of merien,fall of faolchu quests.

"Magic weapons" is not a thing in ESO.

Two handed weapon damage scales off of stamina, not magicka. It doesn't matter if the weapon is white, green, blue, etc. When you say "magic weapons", do you mean green weapons?

Are you also checking the level of your quests? Prioritize finishing lower level quests. Run around Glenumbra to find quest givers and check the levels of their quests. Addons will help if you are on PC. Do the main story quests for the skill point since it doesn't even involve combat for the first chapter. Do the 2 guild quest lines for that additional XP. The will scale to your level and aren't hard.

For a little more XP, do the 6 training quests in Daggerfall to learn how to do crafting.

Also, wear mostly heavy armor initially if you are dying a lot. There is no benefit to wearing light or medium until you can unlock passives apart from leveling. Unlocking those passives requires skillpoints you might not have available. If you want to level light or medium, swap gear on quest turn-in (if you are on PC and can do that with addons).

You might want to decide early if you are going to be magicka or stamina. What race is your character? Using Searing Strike might seem like magicka, but when you level it, you can eventually morph it to work off of stamina. If you like 2H, that means you should probably invest in stamina (not magicka) and you can morph searing strikes to the stamina morph after it completes level 4.

I would not recommend grinding levels because it is boring, but I would recommend killing all the trash mobs that cross your path. And don't try to kill world bosses. Wait until you are a higher level than they are or until there is a group. You will still get XP for world bosses, even if you are 20 levels higher than they are. Always join in with groups at dolmens or world bosses.

Make sure you have done the PvP training at level 10. That will grant you a few skillpoints. Every skillpoint helps at low levels because you have so many passives to unlock.

I would also suggest sticking to as few active skills as possible while leveling to have more skillpoints for passives. For example, keep searing strike as one of your 5 skills until it hits max level. If you like the skill, morph it and keep it on your bar. It will take a very long time to finish leveling the morph. That means one less thing to spend skillpoints on. Don't unlock other active skills unless you have determined you really need it. For example, you might have 5 unlocked skills, but you realize you need something like talons for crowd control. In that case, go ahead and unlock it even though you will end up not using/leveling an already unlocked skill which is essentially wasting a skill point. Don't unlock everything out of curiosity when skill points are hard to come by unless you are finding content easy and don't need to maximize gains from each individual skill point.

Do not invest any skillpoints in crafting, legedemain, or any other skill that will not help you survive in combat.

If you want to get cheesy, join a guild. In the guild roster, travel to a guild member in Stormhaven. In Stormhaven, collect easy to reach skyshards to get a few more skillpoints. You will also get some XP as you run around for discovering locations. Don't get into combat as you will get stomped. Skyshard hunting is easy to do on PC with addons. Might be a hassle if you are on a console.

alexanderlecard wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Dont wanna sound like a b*tch, but "40 years of gaming" is a silly argument. There are different game genres and if you were, for example, playing only turn based strategies, any action game will be ovewhelming.
The fact that you're ESO+ member also means nothing cause this game is not P2W (Thanks goodness)
And it has nothing to do with scaling, since you're only scaled in instanced dungeons, Cyrodiil and dlc locations.
Also... Make sure you're not standing in red circles and block/interrupt telegraphed attacks. You should've seen that in the tutorial mission. I dont wanna be rude to you, but you really just need to pay attention and lean the basics of the game. "I played X games, Imma pro" attitude wont get you anywhere.

Wasnt about being a pro.you missed the point .im not a noob,ive played and own several thousand games.point was there are problems with scaling especially low level. I know this because eso devlopers contacted me today in email.

Going back looking at patches everyone has dozens fixes for scaling.so now i know its ongoing problem and they are fixing.

Fine in mean time im getting advice from other players here which is helping. Thanks.

There is no scaling in Glenumbra except for:

- 4 person dungeons
- Parts of guild quests (only if it takes you to separate single player zone)
- Main quest (which doesn't matter since there is no combat in the first part of the main quest.

The rest of Glenumbra does not scale at all. The different areas, quests, and enemies are at set levels.

DLC zones scale to your level. There are legitimate issues with scaling to low level in those zones. Not in Glenumbra. The patch notes about scaling are about group dungeon scaling, Cyrodiil (PvP) scaling, and DLC zone scaling. There are no patch notes about Glenumbra scaling because there is no scaling in Glenumbra.

The problem isn't the scaling. The problem is you are too low level to access the skills you need for the occasion. Like Dragon blood. Just grab a resto staff and hit rapid regen. That should do it.

Van_0S wrote: »

alexanderlecard wrote: »

Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.

Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.

These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.

Yes im a plus member.

Well, I have heard black desert online is worst!!

You heard right. BDO = crackwood cave online. Fishing and cooking was the only thing I found enjoyable. No PvP, the translations will make you want to cringe rather than read, the same glossy jock hair skin for every guard in the game, annoying audio dialogue, tacticless gameplay, 0 dungeons or class composition and most importantly permagrind and compete P2W.

onyl thing i can say to this is LOOOOL you playing a mmo who the f cares about the low level content imo mmo are all about the end game and if you are struggling on level 3 you got a really hard road ahead of you

PURPLE245 wrote: »

onyl thing i can say to this is LOOOOL you playing a mmo who the f cares about the low level content imo mmo are all about the end game and if you are struggling on level 3 you got a really hard road ahead of you

Sorry to bust your bubble im lv 16.so this wasnt about crying at low level 3.move along now.

alexanderlecard wrote: »

Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.

Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.

These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.

Yes im a plus member.

I'm not one of those people who will simply be rude and tell you to L2P. But you should understand that this post is a foreign concept for the majority of new, returning, and existing players to this game. While not everyone is going to find "challenging" content challenging, and not everyone is going to find "easy" content as such, it's a pretty widely-accepted theme that ESO is one of the easiest MMOs ever released, with respect to the solo pve "leveling" content.

Two years ago when this game came out, you would only dream of going into a zone at your level and surviving against 2+ mobs by yourself. It literally took a tank and a healer, even a dps at times, just to do story quests that were designed for a single player. Hundreds of people quit playing because a pack of 2-3 lions in a starter zone would 1- or 2-shot players in full heavy. It was horribly unbalanced, and was all but impossible.

As someone who frequents new/returning player posts in a sincere effort to help, my best advice to you is to go back to the starter zones. It is unfortunate to have to admit this, but the dlc content in this game is not new-player-friendly. Someone with a noteworthy amount of CP and experience can roll a new toon through Wrothgar and Hew's Bane with relative ease, but someone who only recently picked up the game, or someone who is trying a new class for the first time, or even in some cases, people with zero CP, should start in the starter zones.

It may come as a surprise, but even players who have been at this game since it's initial launch still hit the starter zones when leveling characters. For some, this is merely because the completionist in them won't allow them to skip it. But for many, it's a vital part of the leveling process, and is virtually guaranteed to be of reasonable difficulty for a new player. After all, that's what it was designed for.