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Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.
Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.
These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.
Yes im a plus member.
Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.
These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.
Yes im a plus member.
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Bfish22090 wrote: »you really need to learn how to play the game
Really is now everyone gonna act like im to blame? I been gaming 40 years lots open world games. Neverwinter and path of exile come to mind.
The scaling level controls need revamped as does the mapping system.i been playing the game since 2015 pc and xone im fully aware how to play the game.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭alexanderlecard wrote: »Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.
Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.
These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.
Yes im a plus member.
If you are trying to do scaled DLC content with a new character, yes, you are going to find it to be a challenge. ZOS has the idea that these places can scale to anyone, but at low levels, Champion Points are required to really make it work.
They really need to put a "Level 10" restriction on the DLC content, especially for new players, and this is what I recommend to people who want to jump right into the DLC content.
Outside of the DLC content, if you do the starter islands, you will find that you are in a much better position for the rest of the game.
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✭alexanderlecard wrote: »Bfish22090 wrote: »you really need to learn how to play the game
Really is now everyone gonna act like im to blame? I been gaming 40 years lots open world games. Neverwinter and path of exile come to mind.
The scaling level controls need revamped as does the mapping system.i been playing the game since 2015 pc and xone im fully aware how to play the game.
wat? you're complaining about getting rekt at lvl 3? or you're lvl 6-8? Post is confusing.....Edited by Cuyler on May 17, 2016 3:29PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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✭What exactly are you having trouble with? From the OP it sounds like questing in the scaled zones is causing you issues. At which point I would have to ask about your build and skills. What class are you? Where have you put your stat points? What level is your gear? What weapons are you using? Because I don't feel like you should be struggling as much as you say.PC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.1 -
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✭✭alexanderlecard wrote: »Im level 12 right now doing glenumbra quests .
Did you do the starter islands missions (Stros M'kai, Betnikh)? There's a lot of XP points plus some skyhards that will help you with your build.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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Name alexanderlecard oalexanderlecard wrote: »Im level 12 right now doing glenumbra quests .
Did you do the starter islands missions (Stros M'kai, Betnikh)? There's a lot of XP points plus some skyhards that will help you with your build.
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Standing here eagles brook wayshrine lol thanks for replies guys.Edited by alexanderlecard on May 17, 2016 4:07PM0
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✭All I can say is gameplay in ESO is active combat. What I mean by this is to be successful you must block, dodge, interrupt etc or you will get hit hard. If you're just standing there taking it to the face, you're going to have a bad time. Make sure you have active combat tips enabled so you can see the tips of when to block etc.
In offense, you want to stack into one particular attribute for the truck hitting effect....I didn't see you say, are you magic or stamina?Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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All I can say is gameplay in ESO is active combat. What I mean by this is to be successful you must block, dodge, interrupt etc or you will get hit hard. If you're just standing there taking it to the face, you're going to have a bad time. Make sure you have active combat tips enabled so you can see the tips of when to block etc.
In offense, you want to stack into one particular attribute for the truck hitting effect....I didn't see you say, are you magic or stamina?
Im both use lot of searing strike iv , magic weapons usually 2 handed. 375-400 with +50 magic,or stamnia.
Heavy armor just hit lv 13 doing white mask of merien,fall of faolchu quests.0 -
Heavy armor 16, two handed 18, destruction,restoration staffs each 7,nord skills 13.0
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✭alexanderlecard wrote: »Heavy armor 16, two handed 18, destruction,restoration staffs each 7,nord skills 13.
It sounds like, you went with nord and heavy armor (HA) because you want to be a tank maybe? or just tanky in general. In this regard your racial passives are buffing your HP and mitigation, and HA will do the same.alexanderlecard wrote: »Im both use lot of searing strike iv , magic weapons usually 2 handed. 375-400 with +50 magic,or stamnia.Heavy armor just hit lv 13 doing white mask of merien,fall of faolchu quests.
You also are using staffs, which is based off of magic. Your HA and race choice do nothing for buffing your magic damage here so the choice to use staffs is conflicting with your armor choice. Yes HA will make you tanky, but at the same time, when using a staff, it's lowering your magic damage and increasing your time to kill (TTK) which is turn is making your fights longer, aka harder.
I always recommend a focus of damage type. what this means is if your going to use staffs, put all your points into magic and wear 5pc of light armor to get those passives.
If you want to go with melee weapons, put all your points into stamina and wear 5pcs of medium armor.
Ultimately you want to level each armor line so you want to wear 5pcs of your preferred armor type, and then 1pc of each of the other. That way you'll level all three.
Leveling as a tank can be difficult, being tanky doesn't help you kill things. Most players will level as a dps while leveling the tanking skills necessary and then switching to tank later on when it's time to group and do dungeons with others.
Note if a skill cost magic, it's damage scales off of your max magic. if it costs stam, it's damage scales off your max stam. This is why it's best to stack into one only.
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Combat in ESO is far more interactive. Reminds me a lot more like a FPS. And many situations and combatants require vastily different strategies to defeat.
I still have an ever changing build.6 -
usrevenge✭✭✭alexanderlecard wrote: »Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.
Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.
These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.
Yes im a plus member.
yea i've never been "chased across the realm" unless in a dungeon.
the game is pretty easy on new players, the worst part is still the grind to get to max level.3 -
Kattemynte✭✭✭At low level I noticed very little between how much damage I took between HA and LA. Both were very similar. Therefore, like Cuyler said, it is best to focus on either magicka or stamina type damage and use LA or MA accordingly. If you plan on tanking in the game then go 5 piece of your damage type and then either 1 or 2 piece heavy.
As it stands this game is dps play-style oriented and leveling a tank (healer is not so bad as you still focus all magicka) is really slow and actually a lot harder as it suffers a lot from the lack of damage output.1 -
Glamdring✭✭✭✭✭dtsv217_ESO wrote: »As it stands this game is dps play-style oriented and leveling a tank (healer is not so bad as you still focus all magicka) is really slow and actually a lot harder as it suffers a lot from the lack of damage output.
Yeah its hard to kill npcs by blocking and not doing any damage, lol Never thought of making your "tank" stamina based and then when u are maxlvl respecc?
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✭✭✭✭✭alexanderlecard wrote: »Heavy armor 16, two handed 18, destruction,restoration staffs each 7,nord skills 13.
You're all over the place. The more streamlined you are, the better your survival. Don't try to do everything at once, there's plenty of game to go around to max out every skill line if you wanted to. First characters are easy try outs, test the game, don't take it too seriously. You have 8 slots, and they all share the same bank so anything you collect on one character can be given to future characters via your bank.
A magicka build is easy for beginners 2:1 ratio on magicka and health stat placement works fine, go 5 Light / 1 Medium / 1 Heavy or all 7 Light; focus on Staves and Class skills. As you go higher up after level 40+ you can branch out, at any point you can reset your skills and stats to do something different so don't feel locked into anything.3 -
NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭Well Clearly we need to nerf open world Player verses environment!
Nah I just think you need to streamline your build like the others have said.
The DLC scaling is terrible...so don't plan on doing DLC content for a while.
To many choices? Your a DK, Go stamina... in 2 weeks they're the most over powered class in the game. You won't have issues.650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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Dunno, when Orsinium dropped i made a new toon and went there as soon as i left the prison.lordrichter wrote: »If you are trying to do scaled DLC content with a new character, yes, you are going to find it to be a challenge.
The content was stupendously easy.
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✭✭✭✭✭I think the real issue here is after 40 years of gaming , why in Tamriel are you having issues with base line questing textbook to all MMOs ? That's as plain as I can put it . Straight up .
Now if you're new to MMOs that's different . Was there a gap between PacMan and ESO you're not telling Us ?9 -
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✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »alexanderlecard wrote: »Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.
Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.
These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.
Yes im a plus member.
If you are trying to do scaled DLC content with a new character, yes, you are going to find it to be a challenge. ZOS has the idea that these places can scale to anyone, but at low levels, Champion Points are required to really make it work.
They really need to put a "Level 10" restriction on the DLC content, especially for new players, and this is what I recommend to people who want to jump right into the DLC content.
Outside of the DLC content, if you do the starter islands, you will find that you are in a much better position for the rest of the game.
I would really suggest 15, so you have two task bars at least.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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✭✭✭alexanderlecard wrote: »Wow let me say in my 40years of gaming.Have I ever seen a game that punishes low level players as eso.
Scales? Since when.same level 3 hits im dead,6-8 with magical weapons and armor doing 400+ damage.thats scaling? No.glitches are endless from server lag,to monsters npc chasing you across maps and in some cases realms.
These issues make it almost impossible to want to continue to play.this continued grind and suffering of low level quest scaling is for the birds.
Yes im a plus member.
Your basic levels and "mass" may scale but scaling wont get you full gear sets or enough skill diversity to meet any sort of serious threat.
Sorry you had it that bad but the competitive side is not going to be forgiving.
try and find a guild maybe to work out the details?Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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Netherscorn✭✭✭A few things that will certainly assist you during your more - lets say, 'inceptive' - character developments:
1, Don't bite off more than you can chew. Take some time to grind up a bit (more on that below) at least to level 15 so you can have a backbar (second weapon to switch to on-the-fly and an entirely separate ability bar to go along with it). Also, 15-20 is where you start to experience some actually useful loot drops from rats/mobs. By level 20 you can hold your own against (pve) foes up to 4-5+ levels above you with relative ease (so long as your configuration makes sense)
2, Get into a group; be that a guild or just some RL friends. This is immensely helpful no matter your play style and regardless of what exactly it is you're doing. I, personally, am usually quite happy to go out on questing (or zone grinding) runs with much lower level players - just to help out.
3, As for grinding, there are two ways: quests. This - gets - boring...after the first couple play-throughs. I quested my way to vet1 once and quite frankly, was not looking forward to it again. So, the other method - which I find MUCH faster if you just want to 'get there' and be done with it - is zone grinding. Google "eso zone leveling" for more info on that. Basically: you go and cause A LOT of havoc in an area densely populated with hostile NPCs. Do this in a small group (2 or 3 is the optimal number) and you'll be at level 50 in a week or so if you really hit it hard (realistically, if you don't have all that free time, it'll be more like 2-3 weeks).
4, Sort of a conflation of point 1 and 3 - Simply put, don't do anything all that important until you're level 50. The game does a pretty good job of NOT holding your hand like you're an autistic worm writhing about on some pavement somewhere. It's not always as easy as button mashing. You're going to die a lot. But when you DO achieve a stable build/configuration/play-style, it will feel much more worth it than if you were just handed a fully functional and god-like character right off the get go.
I hope this helps. Don't give up! ...I won't lie and say it's always going to be easy - but it will be WORTH it.2 -
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Bulljoker✭✭✭damn and i was bitching about how easy the game on the low level is..
remember the first beta guys when we all sucked and mobs we're actually strong? damn
so, dont use two hand and staves combined, it's never gonna work, use destro/resto staff and magicka, or just go with stamina weapons and stamina abilities, use block,dodge roll etc, recommend resto staff for new players,or atleast for first 10 levelsPC EU
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