It shouldn't be possible to be emperor more than once per campaign

GreatWhite000 · May 2016

A guy on AD (NA) has had emp on haderus fairly consistently on Haderus for the past couple months now. Dethroning is pretty useless because he gets on and captures all the keeps with his friends once activity has died down and there is little resistance. It's made it impossible for any other AD to become emperor because of how much farming he does to ensure he will stay on #1, and it's very difficult for DC or EP to get emperor because he is on quite often and will protect the emperor keeps from being captured. A lot of people on all factions are starting to get kind of tired of this. I think a good solution would be to simply allow someone to be emperor only once per campaign (or just have a few day cooldown for the longer campaigns like trueflame), and if you get dethroned then it's over and the person behind you will get emperor next. What do you guys think? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Publius_Scipio · May 2016

Campaigns should be 1 death. Meaning if you die during a campaign you are DEAD for the duration of the campaign. Then armies would dwindle and emperors would need to speak with their generals and be strategic.

Yup.... I like this idea. Especially for thirty day campaigns.

GreatWhite000 · May 2016

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Campaigns should be 1 death. Meaning if you die during a campaign you are DEAD for the duration of the campaign. Then armies would dwindle and emperors would need to speak with their generals and be strategic.

Yup.... I like this idea. Especially for thirty day campaigns.

Being serious here, even you have pointed out that it's kinda BS how he has done this in zone chat.

Publius_Scipio · May 2016

GreatWhite000 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Campaigns should be 1 death. Meaning if you die during a campaign you are DEAD for the duration of the campaign. Then armies would dwindle and emperors would need to speak with their generals and be strategic.

Yup.... I like this idea. Especially for thirty day campaigns.

Being serious here, even you have pointed out that it's kinda BS how he has done this in zone chat.

OMFGPwned? What do I care about him. He can't spell owned. And quite frankly he is emperor because he has a loyal army of elves that do his little pointy eared bidding. That's why I strike at the emperor's "knee caps", his army. Cut them down you cut him down.

There is absolutely no love loss between myself and the elves.

Elementz · May 2016

What if they get it at 3 am, sleeping, and get dethroned when they wake up? They lost their one time emperorship.

That's a dumb idea.

Ourorboros · May 2016

It's a player issue, not a game issue. Same thing was happening in Azura and Trueflame until a certain DC player stepped aside after months. More recently, DC players have been stepping down after getting the title, so someone else working for it has a chance. Bottom line is there is no problem if players cooperate, and you can't really expect zos to police every jerk in Cyrodiil. How much AP will your 'problem-child' get if everyone moves to a different campaign?

MaximillianDiE · May 2016

It could be worse - it could actually be a decent player and not an off peak capper who takes the map with little to no resistance. That means that he's not too hard to dethrone when DC/EP come on. As an added bonus his salty whispers to people in group when dethroned keep us all amused.

Rylana · May 2016

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

It could be worse - it could actually be a decent player and not an off peak capper who takes the map with little to no resistance. That means that he's not too hard to dethrone when DC/EP come on. As an added bonus his salty whispers to people in group when dethroned keep us all amused.

Gotta agree here. At least the permaemp is relatively trash.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

Not sure if Nerf Emp or buff campaign thread ... Hmmm

zuto40 · May 2016

farm more then him, he clearly dedicates his life to the war, and if you want emp you should too

Astanphaeus · May 2016

I think this is a horrible idea. As much as I would love to be emp, this would just result in people actively giving up emp keeps so that they can get it.

That said, I would love if ap and emp were somehow more connected to campaign objectives than it currently is.

DUTCH_REAPER · May 2016

The "get the most AP puts you at the top for EMP" is a broken system that has been regularly abused. Fellow guildies giving AP to there guildy on their other faction toon or leaving to give up a bigger AP tick for them or logging in to your buddy's account and keep the AP flowing. We all know it has happened in one way or another. ZOS just needs to come up with a better system...I have no idea what that new system is though. Would be neat to see some new blood as EMP. If I got that jazz I would call in sick and rock it for as along as possible

maybe a once you have it you don't get it for a certain amount of time? But in a way that may hurt the campaign bc what if the EMP is really good at EMP? Lol. I don't know the answer to this problem except to keep chugging away at gaining AP and seeing the top players eclipse others wether due to skill and time at playing or boosting. Who knows.

Göttermutter · May 2016

A campaign is death and should be closed, if only one side rules up and down and this since months.
Its only a "feeding-troll-campaign" for emps and has notthing to do anymore with messurements between PvP-players between different (blue, red, yellow) homes or realms. The last one is called so, because it comes from the old existing PvP and i dont see a reason to change it to campaigns, xxx-server on a mega server on eu.
Death servers should be closed and you will see that some others profit from that and you will see maybe also, that the lags are the same like before! *g*

joe.smith21b14_ESO · May 2016

I brought this up to one of my buddies to bring up to zos but the reason he gets emperor is when the campaign resets on a Weekday he doesn't have any obligation other then emp so by the time we all get on on the peak hours he's got that lead no one can catch up to.
I came up with an idea to give everyone a better chance or a competing chance for emp. If they make haderus a 6 day or 8 day rotation the reset would be a random day throughout the week that way if it were to land on a weekend it gives everyone a better chance for emp at least on the reset. Or just move the reset day to Saturday on a day when everyone is playing.

Turelus · May 2016

Too lazy to type all my arguments again.

OP Please check your other thread on this that you made a couple of weeks ago for my answers: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/264380/it-really-shouldnt-be-possible-for-one-person-to-continuously-get-emperor-in-a-campaign

Morbash · May 2016

I like this idea. Not sure if this would be a proper solution, but I do agree the emperor system needs to be revamped. It's far too easy to abuse it.

Mako1132 · May 2016

Do something about it. We already had a period of time where everyone and their mother became Emperor and it was a horrifying experience. I think this is worse than PvErs asking for IC to not be locked.

Mako1132 · May 2016

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DisgracefulMind · May 2016

He's not a very fearsome emperor anyways; he hits like a wet noodle.

Jaybe_Mawfaka · May 2016

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Campaigns should be 1 death. Meaning if you die during a campaign you are DEAD for the duration of the campaign. Then armies would dwindle and emperors would need to speak with their generals and be strategic.

Yup.... I like this idea. Especially for thirty day campaigns.

ahahhahahahahaha

CatchMeTrolling · May 2016

Not a good idea.

ThePonzzz · May 2016

There should be a cool down with earning emp though. You shouldn't be able to be dethroned and then take it right back. Maybe if the game was smaller and it had a fraction of the player base. Let the next in line take it. I mean, if we're going to balance the hell out of classes every major update to be "fair" might as well be fair with this too.

kevlarto_ESO · May 2016

I agree it kinda sucks for the other people that stay in the top 5 never having a chance to get emp, because of some greedy player that has some system for getting a ton of AP in a short time and no consideration for his fellow faction mates, but on the other hand you have to be careful of emp swapping which we have had plenty of that in the past, I just wish they would remove the whole emp thing from the game, when there is no emp combat is always better it seems.

ThePonzzz · May 2016

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

He's not a very fearsome emperor anyways; he hits like a wet noodle.

He does a decent job tanking as a nightblade though. He uses his emp buffs the right way. I say this as an EP player who does get frustrated with the current situation on Haderus.

Rylana · May 2016

ThePonzzz wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

He's not a very fearsome emperor anyways; he hits like a wet noodle.

He does a decent job tanking as a nightblade though. He uses his emp buffs the right way. I say this as an EP player who does get frustrated with the current situation on Haderus.

He uses the emp buffs the opposite way of how he should, thats why he is the subject of such derision.

A good emperor actually kills things, lots of things, without siege. His whole gameplan is to "not die" which is stupid cause everyone dies. Maximize damage output and kill all the things, the best emperors leave dozens of bodies in their wake, solo or even with just a few supporters. He is lost in a sea of 50+ support pugs making him completely irrelevant unless a coldstone treb is fired by him.

The AD perma emp is a sad running joke, all about e-peen and no substance. Now if someone substantial, sayyyyyyy Hovaling or Fireshot were to come back and get emp, id be worried about that one.

susmitds · May 2016

You mean the emperor @Omg_Pwned

Sallington · May 2016

I've always liked the idea of once you get EMP, your leaderboard AP resets.

Effectively what the OP is suggesting, but it's feasible to get it again if your faction goes through 15-20 EMPs in a 30 day campaign (which is entirely possible with the proposed change).

Mako1132 · May 2016

Rylana wrote: »

ThePonzzz wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

He's not a very fearsome emperor anyways; he hits like a wet noodle.

He does a decent job tanking as a nightblade though. He uses his emp buffs the right way. I say this as an EP player who does get frustrated with the current situation on Haderus.

He uses the emp buffs the opposite way of how he should, thats why he is the subject of such derision.

A good emperor actually kills things, lots of things, without siege. His whole gameplan is to "not die" which is stupid cause everyone dies. Maximize damage output and kill all the things, the best emperors leave dozens of bodies in their wake, solo or even with just a few supporters. He is lost in a sea of 50+ support pugs making him completely irrelevant unless a coldstone treb is fired by him.

The AD perma emp is a sad running joke, all about e-peen and no substance. Now if someone substantial, sayyyyyyy Hovaling or Fireshot were to come back and get emp, id be worried about that one.

So we've gone from Permared to Meth to Alma to pwned. What a step down in player skill.

PrinceFabious · May 2016

Honestly, since Pwnd is one of the "trash" players in ESO..its not too bad..its the 60+ that support him that boggles me

Publius_Scipio · May 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Honestly, since Pwnd is one of the "trash" players in ESO..its not too bad..its the 60+ that support him that boggles me

I touched upon this in post #4.

TheRubiksCube · May 2016

Elementz wrote: »

What if they get it at 3 am, sleeping, and get dethroned when they wake up? They lost their one time emperorship.

That's a dumb idea.

Can't say who this happened to, but I know someone who stayed up for 48 hours straight and decided to say F- it and went to sleep because he was really tired. He would wake up and discover that he got emp, but also lost it while he slept. I think he's still salty that he didn't get to play as an emp.

On the topic of getting emp only once per campaign...

It just seems like something that would suit the OP or someone who has never been emp. For all you know, there could be a good emp that is consistently emp and if this was to happen, the faction gets a bad emp and loses the campaign.