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Redgaurd VS Imperial

  • Rohaus
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    Depends on what you plan on doing...

    PvP tank or PvP dodge roller?

    If PvP tank = Nord, Orc, Imperial

    If PvP dodge roller = Redguard, Bosmer

    You could have all the damage in the world but dead equals no damage.
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  • Volkodav
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    My main vet is an Imperial Stamina Nightblade.He was quick and easy to level up.He's only at V5 right now,but I'm not pushing hard to get him higher.He'll get there just fine.
    (odd.I voted,but what I voted isnt showing up.)
    Edited by Volkodav on May 15, 2016 6:18PM
  • DaveMoeDee
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    If you paid to have access to Imperial, using it gives you the psychological benefit of feeling it was money well spent.
  • xblackroxe
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    I prefer Imperial because you can switch to magicka and still be viable if you want to. I love Imperials for the versatility

    That makes no sense. There is nothing an Imperial is better at than a Redguard for Magicka.
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  • Tormy
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    xblackroxe wrote: »
    I prefer Imperial because you can switch to magicka and still be viable if you want to. I love Imperials for the versatility

    That makes no sense. There is nothing an Imperial is better at than a Redguard for Magicka.

    10% hp...
  • xblackroxe
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    Tormy wrote: »
    xblackroxe wrote: »
    I prefer Imperial because you can switch to magicka and still be viable if you want to. I love Imperials for the versatility

    That makes no sense. There is nothing an Imperial is better at than a Redguard for Magicka.

    10% hp...

    Not needed in any way. Dunmer is the only race that can switch from Mag to Stam and have little downside on it.
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  • newtinmpls
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    Keep in mind that two or three major updates down the road, all the "meta" ideas you are basing this on MAY CHANGE.

    So do a character you like, not one you calculate.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Bananko
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  • Volkodav
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    Bananko wrote: »
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    Well said!!
  • CherryCake
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    Apparently imperials are vegetable oil spread... but in pvp they look like tar-tar...

    I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie
  • Volkodav
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    Apparently imperials are vegetable oil spread... but in pvp they look like tar-tar...

    The tartars were fierce warriors in their time too!
  • CherryCake
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Apparently imperials are vegetable oil spread... but in pvp they look like tar-tar...

    The tartars were fierce warriors in their time too!

    Oh they were, oh they were! But I mean the minced meat xDDDDDDDD...I know cruel joke ;___;
    I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie
  • Volkodav
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Apparently imperials are vegetable oil spread... but in pvp they look like tar-tar...

    The tartars were fierce warriors in their time too!

    Oh they were, oh they were! But I mean the minced meat xDDDDDDDD...I know cruel joke ;___;

    Hehehe! I got your joke and countered with mine.XD
  • CherryCake
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Apparently imperials are vegetable oil spread... but in pvp they look like tar-tar...

    The tartars were fierce warriors in their time too!

    Oh they were, oh they were! But I mean the minced meat xDDDDDDDD...I know cruel joke ;___;

    Hehehe! I got your joke and countered with mine.XD

    Cool!!! xDDDDDDDDDDD <3
    I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie
  • RedFireDisco
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    It's 12% health on Imperial.

    12% health vs 10% stam regen.

    If you're imperial, you can go 7/7 medium and still have more health than a redguard running 5-1-1

    You can go full damage

    With a redguard you get a little more stam regen.

    In pvp health is still important
  • Duiwel
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    It's 12% health on Imperial.

    12% health vs 10% stam regen.

    If you're imperial, you can go 7/7 medium and still have more health than a redguard running 5-1-1

    You can go full damage

    With a redguard you get a little more stam regen.

    In pvp health is still important

    It's not just 10% stam regen it's also stam regen on melee hits mate you are mistaken...

    Vigor & Rally will be used a lot more by a guy with good resource management than a guy with maybe 4k more hp...
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  • Junkogen
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    newtinmpls wrote: »
    Keep in mind that two or three major updates down the road, all the "meta" ideas you are basing this on MAY CHANGE.

    So do a character you like, not one you calculate.

    The one constant in regard to racial passives: Argonians' suck.
  • Mr.Hmm
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    Mr.Hmm wrote: »
    Nord.

    Always Nord.

    *sneaks close to you*

    *whispers*...Imperial master race!


    *hides*...

    ??

    *Yells* Who whispered Imperial master race in my ear?! SHOW THY SELF!

    *Unsheathes sword*
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  • RedFireDisco
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    It's 12% health on Imperial.

    12% health vs 10% stam regen.

    If you're imperial, you can go 7/7 medium and still have more health than a redguard running 5-1-1

    You can go full damage

    With a redguard you get a little more stam regen.

    In pvp health is still important

    It's not just 10% stam regen it's also stam regen on melee hits mate you are mistaken...

    Vigor & Rally will be used a lot more by a guy with good resource management than a guy with maybe 4k more hp...

    The stam and health return on attacks are pretty insignificant for both Imps and Reds.

    10% chance for sweet F all.

    Unless you're trying to proc spectral bow with siphoning attacks running, in which case the whole synergistic nature doesn't really matter which att you get, it's all good baby.
  • Wollust
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    It's 12% health on Imperial.

    12% health vs 10% stam regen.

    If you're imperial, you can go 7/7 medium and still have more health than a redguard running 5-1-1

    You can go full damage

    With a redguard you get a little more stam regen.

    In pvp health is still important

    It's not just 10% stam regen it's also stam regen on melee hits mate you are mistaken...

    Vigor & Rally will be used a lot more by a guy with good resource management than a guy with maybe 4k more hp...

    The stam and health return on attacks are pretty insignificant for both Imps and Reds.

    10% chance for sweet F all.

    Unless you're trying to proc spectral bow with siphoning attacks running, in which case the whole synergistic nature doesn't really matter which att you get, it's all good baby.

    The stam return insignificant? Wtf you smoking?
    My stamblade with 36k stamina has a stam return of approx. 1100. Every three seconds. That equals around 730 stam regen.
    That's a ton of stamina and in no way insignificant.
    Though I agree that the health return passive from imperials is a bit underwhelming these days.
    I have an imperial templar and need to use health and stam regen food for PvP to sustain. If it was a redguard I could go with health & stamina food and still have much more sustain than my imperial. While losing some health and gaining a ton of damage. QQ
    Wtb race change please.
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    Zerg Squad
  • Azor_Ahaii
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    Wollust wrote: »
    Duiwel wrote: »
    It's 12% health on Imperial.

    12% health vs 10% stam regen.

    If you're imperial, you can go 7/7 medium and still have more health than a redguard running 5-1-1

    You can go full damage

    With a redguard you get a little more stam regen.

    In pvp health is still important

    It's not just 10% stam regen it's also stam regen on melee hits mate you are mistaken...

    Vigor & Rally will be used a lot more by a guy with good resource management than a guy with maybe 4k more hp...

    The stam and health return on attacks are pretty insignificant for both Imps and Reds.

    10% chance for sweet F all.

    Unless you're trying to proc spectral bow with siphoning attacks running, in which case the whole synergistic nature doesn't really matter which att you get, it's all good baby.

    The stam return insignificant? Wtf you smoking?
    My stamblade with 36k stamina has a stam return of approx. 1100. Every three seconds. That equals around 730 stam regen.
    That's a ton of stamina and in no way insignificant.
    Though I agree that the health return passive from imperials is a bit underwhelming these days.
    I have an imperial templar and need to use health and stam regen food for PvP to sustain. If it was a redguard I could go with health & stamina food and still have much more sustain than my imperial. While losing some health and gaining a ton of damage. QQ
    Wtb race change please.

    So that means that redguard's get even more regen than bosmers, right?
  • Wollust
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    Azor_Ahaii wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    Duiwel wrote: »
    It's 12% health on Imperial.

    12% health vs 10% stam regen.

    If you're imperial, you can go 7/7 medium and still have more health than a redguard running 5-1-1

    You can go full damage

    With a redguard you get a little more stam regen.

    In pvp health is still important

    It's not just 10% stam regen it's also stam regen on melee hits mate you are mistaken...

    Vigor & Rally will be used a lot more by a guy with good resource management than a guy with maybe 4k more hp...

    The stam and health return on attacks are pretty insignificant for both Imps and Reds.

    10% chance for sweet F all.

    Unless you're trying to proc spectral bow with siphoning attacks running, in which case the whole synergistic nature doesn't really matter which att you get, it's all good baby.

    The stam return insignificant? Wtf you smoking?
    My stamblade with 36k stamina has a stam return of approx. 1100. Every three seconds. That equals around 730 stam regen.
    That's a ton of stamina and in no way insignificant.
    Though I agree that the health return passive from imperials is a bit underwhelming these days.
    I have an imperial templar and need to use health and stam regen food for PvP to sustain. If it was a redguard I could go with health & stamina food and still have much more sustain than my imperial. While losing some health and gaining a ton of damage. QQ
    Wtb race change please.

    So that means that redguard's get even more regen than bosmers, right?

    Well in theory yes. The 10% difference in stam regen will never equal to the stam return of the melee passive. However, you have to consider that you need to "activate" the passive every three seconds. I have gotten used to it to even weave light attacks while rolling around just to proc it. If I am running up or downstairs passing enemies I will always light attack them once just to proc it.
    In a duel you will have constant procs every three seconds if you are not completely defensive. In outnumbered situations you just gotta "force" yourself to throw in a light attack even if you are on the defensive to fully profit from the passive. It's s bit of a challenge at first, but at some point you'll just do it automatically. It also helps (if you're on PC) having an addon that shows you the gained stamina. Was at least the case for me.
    Susano'o

    Zerg Squad
  • Marktoneth3
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    My stam DK Imperial really good.

  • Bananko
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Bananko wrote: »
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    Well said!!

    Thank you! :)
  • Bananko
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    Apparently imperials are vegetable oil spread..

    As well as cholesterol free. B)
  • babedenny
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    Bananko wrote: »
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