I am not happy with some changes TESO wants to implement as I feel the unique elder scrolls experience, that made me play this game, is fading.

Maybe I worry to much, I will definately have a look and make up my mind based on first hand experience, but if I do not like the path TESO chooses, I will leave. (ofc)

Having the option to play a new elder scrolls game is just a "good-to-have" goddy, not a tiebreaker, in the process of making up my mind.

Well I am the kind of person that normally sinks into one game at the time, then exchange around.

ADarklore wrote: »

A single-player game does not have the longevity that an MMO does. Does a single-player game offer YEARS of updates, patches, new content, etc? NO. A single-player game may get a couple of DLCS in the first year, possibly two, but after that you get NOTHING. Thus, the life-cycle of a single-player game is finite, an MMO is infinite, at least until the servers shut down. So sure, players may leave to play ES-VI, but after they finish the game, they'll be back to ESO.

Perhaps this is another reason Bethesda has not even mentioned ES-VI, because they don't want players waiting for ES-VI to release, they want them playing ESO.

One thing that great single player games have going for them, is the lack of a toxic pvp community. I swear out of all online games I've played so far, ESO has the worst elitist community there is. A pack of wolves hanging together collectively bashing whoever doesn't 'fit in' with them is hilarious.

LegendaryMage wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

A single-player game does not have the longevity that an MMO does. Does a single-player game offer YEARS of updates, patches, new content, etc? NO. A single-player game may get a couple of DLCS in the first year, possibly two, but after that you get NOTHING. Thus, the life-cycle of a single-player game is finite, an MMO is infinite, at least until the servers shut down. So sure, players may leave to play ES-VI, but after they finish the game, they'll be back to ESO.

Perhaps this is another reason Bethesda has not even mentioned ES-VI, because they don't want players waiting for ES-VI to release, they want them playing ESO.

One thing that great single player games have going for them, is the lack of a toxic pvp community. I swear out of all online games I've played so far, ESO has the worst elitist community there is. A pack of wolves hanging together collectively bashing whoever doesn't 'fit in' with them is hilarious.

Have you played DCUO? It's worse over there, or at least was when I played. I've heard that other MMOs also have it worse than ESO, some have called ESO forums 'much better' than where they came from... I'd agree, DCUO was MUCH worse compared to ESO.

I'll play 100+ hours, then when that story is done, I'll come back here.

That said, I hope the next ES game is set directly before ESO. The capability they have to using the next ES game to fully support their MMO, by providing backstory to the war of the Alliance and the summoning of Molag Bal.

We could possibly even witness the Akaviri invasion, or even BE an Akaviri. Ahh, the possibilities.





Or you could just let me make my Imperial legionairre and murder the f*** out of some more Thalmor. I'd be happy with that too.

Yes for the same reasons I am still playing now that Fallout 4 is out.

Whilst I will spend hours on TES VI enjoying my own game and immersion it doesn't offer me the enjoyment of playing an MMO in the setting.

I really enjoy the MMO mechanics of this game (although I would still rather more sandbox features) so I'll stick around here as well.

Of course I will. Unless Bethesda Game Studios has finally figured out how to add support for OS X to their tool chain until release, which I think is very unlikely.

JD2013 wrote: »

You'll be waiting some time for ES VI yet.

But obvs I'll still play this if it's still around when ES VI comes. It'll be at least 3 years I reckon until ES VI gets talked about by Bethesda.

Prob waiting for another fancy date, like 22/02/2022

Probably not. But it depends on how good ESO is at that point. (If it is like it is now then I won't play ESO, atm I am not sure if I should even buy DB or if I will just quit halfway trough)

Duiwel wrote: »

They don't compete OP that's the beauty of it

Except a ton of casuals will prob stop since they were like "this isn't Skyrim!"

I think that's where Zeni made a big mistake appealing too much to them instead of further developing their own identity they shifted towards becoming Skyrim online to a certain extent.

BUT they are slowly doing both now which is something I admire, so they are developping the identity and appealing to the masses of casuals that don't know anything about TES apart from Skyrim having dragons.

Just keep in mind that "casual" does not equal "Skyrim fan"

I prefer the Elder Scrolls aspects of the game. One of the things that I hoped Mr Lurk would bring is a more Elder Scrolls feel to the game, but if he is doing anything in that respect, it is being drowned out by the non Elder Scrolls people in the Studio. That would be mostly Mr Combat, I think. It could go higher into the Production staff, though.

So, yeah, from your perspective, catering to people like me, an Elder Scrolls fan, is bad if you are a fan of MMO mechanics that are free of the burden of Elder Scrolls.

If anything drives me to TES 6, it will be ZOS. It has nothing to do with me being "casual".

I'll take a break for a while to play TES VI and then I'll come back.

I still play TES IV and V sometimes. They are single players, they can't replace my MMO of choice. The same way my MMO of choice can't replace a single player. Each have their own separate space in my heart.

Based on the events of TES V and the state of the Summerset Isles in the 4th Era (or "Alinor" as those awful 4th Era Thalmor renamed it), I will be very surprised if TES VI doesn't take place there. The main land is opening their ports for outsiders for the first time in centuries, the Thalmor are attacking their own people, the young Altmer are resisting the Thalmor government (and being hunt down and killed for it, even if they leave Alinor), and the Thalmor Invasion story line in Skyrim was dropped like a hot potato. I do not expect a direct sequel, but I do expect this to lead somewhere. And if I am right about this, I will most likely spend a long time in TES VI.

Maybe ZOS could release a DLC in the areas where TES VI takes place a while after TES VI releases, so they can benefit from the TES VI hype.

Artis wrote: »

Yes, I don't think TES 6 will be able to create a world that is more alive than an MMO. I mean, you play alone there and it's fun and everything, but it's too scripted compared to an MMO experience.

Why not? The last two TES games had NPCs with schedules and day/night cycles that matter.

If anything the single-player games are 100% more immersive than MMOs.

Or you know...playing and enjoying both then?

Really depends on where ESO is at that time. I bought ESO because I always wanted to play an online version of TES. The PvP trailers and the like made it a done deal. Sadly we've been cursed with terrible developers in the ESO world.

If ZoS gets its *** together I'll continue to play ESO for many, many, moons. If not I may leave before the next TES game is released.

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

I'll play 100+ hours, then when that story is done, I'll come back here.

That said, I hope the next ES game is set directly before ESO. The capability they have to using the next ES game to fully support their MMO, by providing backstory to the war of the Alliance and the summoning of Molag Bal.

We could possibly even witness the Akaviri invasion, or even BE an Akaviri. Ahh, the possibilities.





Or you could just let me make my Imperial legionairre and murder the f*** out of some more Thalmor. I'd be happy with that too.

I think that the main series should just stay as far away from the MMO as possible, they intentionally put the MMO way before any of the main games for a reason.