HoloYoitsu wrote: »Lemme know when you find the magic spamable button that every class can press to go in stealth whenever they want, mhhkay.Darnathian wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »This is absolutely hysterical. All the nb's claiming Temp RD for 24k over 8 seconds is way OP but the instagibs for 19-27k from NBs is okay in this thread.
If you are actually interested in PvP in your game Zos either tone down both or leave both alone.
Either way great job to all you self proclaimed NB and Sorc balance masters in the other threads! Your doing great proving your unbiased.
What is hysterical is all the people crying about "NB instagibs". Every class can instagib if you build for it, not just Nightblades.https://youtu.be/8UIs4TfhSck
The only class that cannot recover from the burst should he/she survive it is Nightblade, because Nightblades lack big class shields/heals or Major Mending to block & outheal incoming damage.
Cloak used to be our tool to survive, but we all know how broken it is currently.
Next patch, you wont even be able to roll dodge to live a couple of seconds, because those DBOS DoT ticks (and initial hit+knockdown) are undodgeable.
You should be complaining about instagibs, not about Nightblades (who suffer from them the most).
I said either tone down both or leave them alone. I was pointing out that a bunch of nbs were claiming radiant distruction was overpowered but they are mysteriously silent in this thread
That's because this thread has nothing to do with either RD or NB. Duke made his point that high stealth damage can be achieved by any class, your insistence that this has anything to do with NB still is hilarious.
I'm still waiting on that duel you threatened me with.
I dunno man, I ain't much edumacated mahself, but seems to me that being able to go into stealth is a pretty big requirement to being able to pull any damage from stealth.HoloYoitsu wrote: »Lemme know when you find the magic spamable button that every class can press to go in stealth whenever they want, mhhkay.Darnathian wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »This is absolutely hysterical. All the nb's claiming Temp RD for 24k over 8 seconds is way OP but the instagibs for 19-27k from NBs is okay in this thread.
If you are actually interested in PvP in your game Zos either tone down both or leave both alone.
Either way great job to all you self proclaimed NB and Sorc balance masters in the other threads! Your doing great proving your unbiased.
What is hysterical is all the people crying about "NB instagibs". Every class can instagib if you build for it, not just Nightblades.https://youtu.be/8UIs4TfhSck
The only class that cannot recover from the burst should he/she survive it is Nightblade, because Nightblades lack big class shields/heals or Major Mending to block & outheal incoming damage.
Cloak used to be our tool to survive, but we all know how broken it is currently.
Next patch, you wont even be able to roll dodge to live a couple of seconds, because those DBOS DoT ticks (and initial hit+knockdown) are undodgeable.
You should be complaining about instagibs, not about Nightblades (who suffer from them the most).
I said either tone down both or leave them alone. I was pointing out that a bunch of nbs were claiming radiant distruction was overpowered but they are mysteriously silent in this thread
That's because this thread has nothing to do with either RD or NB. Duke made his point that high stealth damage can be achieved by any class, your insistence that this has anything to do with NB still is hilarious.
I'm still waiting on that duel you threatened me with.
Holo.
That literally has nothing to do with being able to pull high damage from stealth, it's just a tool NB as a class can use for positioning. So that really has nothing to do with my point, or the point made by Duke and others. Every class including stamplar and stamsorc can pull the same type of high damage from stealth, you cannot hold NB accountable for ZOS' inability to balance out of stealth damage. The big effect of cloak isn't even unique to that skill, thanks to potions and the champion system passive.
HoloYoitsu wrote: »Lemme know when you find the magic spamable button that every class can press to go in stealth whenever they want, mhhkay.Darnathian wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »This is absolutely hysterical. All the nb's claiming Temp RD for 24k over 8 seconds is way OP but the instagibs for 19-27k from NBs is okay in this thread.
If you are actually interested in PvP in your game Zos either tone down both or leave both alone.
Either way great job to all you self proclaimed NB and Sorc balance masters in the other threads! Your doing great proving your unbiased.
What is hysterical is all the people crying about "NB instagibs". Every class can instagib if you build for it, not just Nightblades.https://youtu.be/8UIs4TfhSck
The only class that cannot recover from the burst should he/she survive it is Nightblade, because Nightblades lack big class shields/heals or Major Mending to block & outheal incoming damage.
Cloak used to be our tool to survive, but we all know how broken it is currently.
Next patch, you wont even be able to roll dodge to live a couple of seconds, because those DBOS DoT ticks (and initial hit+knockdown) are undodgeable.
You should be complaining about instagibs, not about Nightblades (who suffer from them the most).
I said either tone down both or leave them alone. I was pointing out that a bunch of nbs were claiming radiant distruction was overpowered but they are mysteriously silent in this thread
That's because this thread has nothing to do with either RD or NB. Duke made his point that high stealth damage can be achieved by any class, your insistence that this has anything to do with NB still is hilarious.
I'm still waiting on that duel you threatened me with.
Darnathian wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »This is absolutely hysterical. All the nb's claiming Temp RD for 24k over 8 seconds is way OP but the instagibs for 19-27k from NBs is okay in this thread.
If you are actually interested in PvP in your game Zos either tone down both or leave both alone.
Either way great job to all you self proclaimed NB and Sorc balance masters in the other threads! Your doing great proving your unbiased.
What is hysterical is all the people crying about "NB instagibs". Every class can instagib if you build for it, not just Nightblades.https://youtu.be/8UIs4TfhSck
The only class that cannot recover from the burst should he/she survive it is Nightblade, because Nightblades lack big class shields/heals or Major Mending to block & outheal incoming damage.
Cloak used to be our tool to survive, but we all know how broken it is currently.
Next patch, you wont even be able to roll dodge to live a couple of seconds, because those DBOS DoT ticks (and initial hit+knockdown) are undodgeable.
You should be complaining about instagibs, not about Nightblades (who suffer from them the most).
I said either tone down both or leave them alone. I was pointing out that a bunch of nbs were claiming radiant distruction was overpowered but they are mysteriously silent in this thread
That's because this thread has nothing to do with either RD or NB. Duke made his point that high stealth damage can be achieved by any class, your insistence that this has anything to do with NB still is hilarious.
I'm still waiting on that duel you threatened me with.
HoloYoitsu wrote: »Lemme know when you find the magic spamable button that every class can press to go in stealth whenever they want, mhhkay.Darnathian wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »This is absolutely hysterical. All the nb's claiming Temp RD for 24k over 8 seconds is way OP but the instagibs for 19-27k from NBs is okay in this thread.
If you are actually interested in PvP in your game Zos either tone down both or leave both alone.
Either way great job to all you self proclaimed NB and Sorc balance masters in the other threads! Your doing great proving your unbiased.
What is hysterical is all the people crying about "NB instagibs". Every class can instagib if you build for it, not just Nightblades.https://youtu.be/8UIs4TfhSck
The only class that cannot recover from the burst should he/she survive it is Nightblade, because Nightblades lack big class shields/heals or Major Mending to block & outheal incoming damage.
Cloak used to be our tool to survive, but we all know how broken it is currently.
Next patch, you wont even be able to roll dodge to live a couple of seconds, because those DBOS DoT ticks (and initial hit+knockdown) are undodgeable.
You should be complaining about instagibs, not about Nightblades (who suffer from them the most).
I said either tone down both or leave them alone. I was pointing out that a bunch of nbs were claiming radiant distruction was overpowered but they are mysteriously silent in this thread
That's because this thread has nothing to do with either RD or NB. Duke made his point that high stealth damage can be achieved by any class, your insistence that this has anything to do with NB still is hilarious.
I'm still waiting on that duel you threatened me with.
Holo.
That literally has nothing to do with being able to pull high damage from stealth, it's just a tool NB as a class can use for positioning. So that really has nothing to do with my point, or the point made by Duke and others. Every class including stamplar and stamsorc can pull the same type of high damage from stealth, you cannot hold NB accountable for ZOS' inability to balance out of stealth damage. The big effect of cloak isn't even unique to that skill, thanks to potions and the champion system passive.
-DarnathianWas the OP a NB that did a 27.8k HA and a 14k surprise attack instantly?
-Darnathianmy math may be off but these seems a LITTLE HIGHER. LOL
-DarnathianThink about what u just said. I agree with it. You can reposition. A templar cant.
-DarnathianTy for proving my point. Nb defending this bs. You Rekt yourself yo. LMAO
Can we just nerf magicka DK and call it a day?
Darnathian, I think ESO is too complicated for you to handle. Maybe you should stick to Halo, all you have to do is shoot at things in that game. You keep bringing up magical RD as if it has anything to do with this thread.-DarnathianWas the OP a NB that did a 27.8k HA and a 14k surprise attack instantly?
Is that the extent of your ability to see the world, the OP player could have easily been any class and you'd just think it was a NB anyway.-Darnathianmy math may be off but these seems a LITTLE HIGHER. LOL
Pretty much everything you say is off.-DarnathianThink about what u just said. I agree with it. You can reposition. A templar cant.
Re-positioning yourself has nothing to do with out of crouch damage. The whole point of high damage ganking is to sneak up on someone while crouched without cloak to get your big burst. Every class can achieve what you see in the OP, and cloak has nothing to do with that.
You are so lost.-DarnathianTy for proving my point. Nb defending this bs. You Rekt yourself yo. LMAO
The only point you've made, is that you're lost as typical. I'm glad I can help you come to that conclusion.Where is that duel you threatened me with
When you learn how to gank properly, maybe you can comment about ganking.
ZOS save Darnathian now.
Class discussion in this forum is mostly politicized. When someone like Darnathian posts, it's never about fact, reason or balance. It's only about his individual preferences and supporting whichever opinion best represents them.
I would guess upwards of 90% of posters here have never bothered to research how ESO mechanics actually work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8 "I may not speak nerd like u." You sound like a Homer Simpson cast reject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8
Darnathian wrote: »"I may not speak nerd like u." You sound like a Homer Simpson cast reject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8
Nice comeback dude! u proved my point nerd
"I may not speak nerd like u." You sound like a Homer Simpson cast reject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8
@Darnathian
What does this have to do with NBs?
I play exclusively sorc, and I'm telling you the same thing.
The damage you see is an attack from behind while crouching, which also crit.
That is, it has the crouch multiplier and the crit multiplier, probably CP in crit damage also
Or do you mean the 10% extra weapon damage while stealthed passive that only NBs get is OP?
I'll tell you right now he would have died with or without that passive in this case.
The reason Odin is telling you it's not an NB issue is because anyone can do it with any class. So it can't possibly be called a class balance issue. If you really don't want to take crouch damage, run radiant magelight which again, passively prevents all bonus damage (and the stun) from behind-target crouch attacks, whether you cast the reveal or not. It's always.
Honestly it seems like you're the one who doesn't understand rather than Odin. Don't come back at me saying I'm an NB blah blah blah the highest level NB I have isn't even level 15.
Edit: Also, the magelight passive applies to your whole group. Not very helpful for a solo player but in a raid you almost definitely have crouch immunity all the time; unless you have a raid of people who are not organized whatsoever and run all solo play abilities...
Master_Kas wrote: »You was naked? Luckily I've haven't gotten hit by any surprise attack above 9k this patch.
You sir, got rekt xD
found the guy 5 times later that night, he got _very_ rekt :^)
nerf sorc thread inc
Darnathian wrote: »"I may not speak nerd like u." You sound like a Homer Simpson cast reject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8
Nice comeback dude! u proved my point nerd@Darnathian
What does this have to do with NBs?
I play exclusively sorc, and I'm telling you the same thing.
The damage you see is an attack from behind while crouching, which also crit.
That is, it has the crouch multiplier and the crit multiplier, probably CP in crit damage also
Or do you mean the 10% extra weapon damage while stealthed passive that only NBs get is OP?
I'll tell you right now he would have died with or without that passive in this case.
The reason Odin is telling you it's not an NB issue is because anyone can do it with any class. So it can't possibly be called a class balance issue. If you really don't want to take crouch damage, run radiant magelight which again, passively prevents all bonus damage (and the stun) from behind-target crouch attacks, whether you cast the reveal or not. It's always.
Honestly it seems like you're the one who doesn't understand rather than Odin. Don't come back at me saying I'm an NB blah blah blah the highest level NB I have isn't even level 15.
Edit: Also, the magelight passive applies to your whole group. Not very helpful for a solo player but in a raid you almost definitely have crouch immunity all the time; unless you have a raid of people who are not organized whatsoever and run all solo play abilities...
Bc..... They are NBs making multiple threads about a channel that does 3k DPS is OP but 41k instagib is okay bc class design but not for temp. i find that hysterical.
14k SA is okay? low cost instacast but RD is a problem.
i had two nbs. i am just pointing out how biased they are. i think nbs and temps are in a good place and should leave them alone. as i stated
-DarnathianBc..... They are NBs making multiple threads about a channel that does 3k DPS is OP but 41k instagib is okay bc class design but not for temp. i find that hysterical.
-Darnathian14k SA is okay? low cost instacast but RD is a problem.
-Darnathiani had two nbs. i am just pointing out how biased they are. i think nbs and temps are in a good place and should leave them alone. as i stated
I am not an advocate of nightblade what so ever. Personally, I wish they would delete the entire class haha That being said, the OP is fabricated. I run 7/7 medium with 6 impen and 1 well fitted, have 17k physical resist, 2200 crit resist, 48 points into hardy, and 8% damage mitigation with restoring focus. I've never, I repeat, NEVER come anywhere close to being hit with those numbers. And I've been ganked by sribes, smiff, and zergbad who run max weapon damage gank builds. This post doesn't do any justice and is just trolling.
Darnathian wrote: »"I may not speak nerd like u." You sound like a Homer Simpson cast reject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8
Nice comeback dude! u proved my point nerd@Darnathian
What does this have to do with NBs?
I play exclusively sorc, and I'm telling you the same thing.
The damage you see is an attack from behind while crouching, which also crit.
That is, it has the crouch multiplier and the crit multiplier, probably CP in crit damage also
Or do you mean the 10% extra weapon damage while stealthed passive that only NBs get is OP?
I'll tell you right now he would have died with or without that passive in this case.
The reason Odin is telling you it's not an NB issue is because anyone can do it with any class. So it can't possibly be called a class balance issue. If you really don't want to take crouch damage, run radiant magelight which again, passively prevents all bonus damage (and the stun) from behind-target crouch attacks, whether you cast the reveal or not. It's always.
Honestly it seems like you're the one who doesn't understand rather than Odin. Don't come back at me saying I'm an NB blah blah blah the highest level NB I have isn't even level 15.
Edit: Also, the magelight passive applies to your whole group. Not very helpful for a solo player but in a raid you almost definitely have crouch immunity all the time; unless you have a raid of people who are not organized whatsoever and run all solo play abilities...
Bc..... They are NBs making multiple threads about a channel that does 3k DPS is OP but 41k instagib is okay bc class design but not for temp. i find that hysterical.
14k SA is okay? low cost instacast but RD is a problem.
i had two nbs. i am just pointing out how biased they are. i think nbs and temps are in a good place and should leave them alone. as i stated-DarnathianBc..... They are NBs making multiple threads about a channel that does 3k DPS is OP but 41k instagib is okay bc class design but not for temp. i find that hysterical.
There has only been one NB who made a thread about RD, there have been several threads made by non NB including players who main Templar. Get your *** straight.-Darnathian14k SA is okay? low cost instacast but RD is a problem.
Once again you cannot seem to grasp the topic of the OP, this is a thread about ganking damage. You can get 24K wrecking blows out of stealth, you can do the same thing with staff heavy attacks or bow and arrow. This type of surprise attack damage can only occur on the initial crouch burst, no one is running around PvP with 14K surprise attack damage left and right.
It's like you're unable to understand such simple mechanics.-Darnathiani had two nbs. i am just pointing out how biased they are. i think nbs and temps are in a good place and should leave them alone. as i stated
You don't know what that term even nk.