Joy_Division wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

genjutsu_kami wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Of course! @Jules

Nightblades have always been insanely OP and anyone who played in the early days of the game and knew who King of Thieves, Murdo, and Araxleon know this full well.

Try fighting a Nightblade as a Magicka DK....I have no burst, I have to play defensive...I have to play out of my mind to win, i make one mistake i lose, he can make multiple mistakes and still win....he is on the offensive 80% of the fight, i have to play perfect and wait for the perfect opening to kill him...his Suprise Attack spam renders all my armor useless, He also has an AOE Hard CC that ignores my block, forces me to lose control of my toon, has a delay before it can be broken, snares me 50% and inflicts me with Minor maim to just add icing to the cheese cake.

When i run into a Nightblade, its not my fight to win, its his fight to lose....before anyone chimes in with dueling, i don't care about duels, duels mean nothing, the only thing that matters is open world pvp and folks don't wear the same gear or slot the same skills in duels as they do in just standard open world game play.

Hey just because im a Nightblade i get 15% more Health, Magic and Stamina Recovery, don't even have to slot anything...my DK has to slot an ability just to get a measly 5% Health Recovery which is useless.

I stopped leveling my Nightblade at level 24 4 months ago because it was stupidly OP...anyone can learn how to AC and land 3-4 attacks on someone at once insta-killing them out of stealth.

With nearly 29k Health, almost 20k Armor(before buffed) All Impen Gold Gear and 60+ points in Hardy and 30+ points in Resistant a Nightblade still hit me for 23k+ Damage with a Stealth Attack while I was buffed with Spiked Armor(add another 5,280 Armor)I had to play out of my mind to win that encounter....give me a break...and Nightblades have the audacity to complain about Radiant Destruction? get real!

...Suprise Attack is just face roll DPS spam as @Xylena put it...its really a joke...

Stamina Nightblade is the most powerful class spec in the game by a large margin...Stamina DK is in second but they are a very long way down the totem pole to second place....

80% of Cyrodiil will be Nightblades next update...Surprise Attack spam alone will kill 6 out of 10 players easily, Nightblades will be worse then they were in the IC update...its going to be comical....

Not to mention the new poisons being introduce favor stealth gank gameplay.(which is far too strong as it is)...Archers will pew pew you hidden from range, infect you with a poison that makes all your skills cost 60% more, while he takes half your health and then moves in for the 1 shot kill.

This whole thing is so stupidly broken they might as well rename the game Call of Duty Online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqxr9npkbHo

This right here shouldn't even be possible...guy is wearing 5 Heavy Armor on the Vid and is still insta-killed. I don't care if they are Emp or not...that right there is what is broken about Stealth gameplay, and it will only get worse with the next update.

i completely agree with everything on the above. the video itself is outrageous. please zos look at this ***

Yeah, and look at this Nightblade too!

https://youtu.be/oSXWtKE61rk


So op, please ner- oh, wait a second - it's not a NB?


An awkward silence fills the room. People look around, confused.

This video is an obvious forgery.

At 0:18 I see Alcast on his stamina build being Jesus Beamed while attacking another player. Not only does Alcast kill his target, but then proceeds to murder the Jesus Beaming templar. According to the forums, this can not and does not happen in PvP.

DDuke wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

if you take out the over abundant major expedition buffs NB gets, they have the same as DK. a class is only as good as the player.

I hope you mean magicka nightblades, because stamblades don't get any of those buffs from class skills :P

Doncellius wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

@DDuke You've got to be really bad at PvP to think Nightblades need any sort of buff.... sorry lol.

They are very powerful right now and made even more so from the Dark Brotherhood changes.

They need some of those insane Passives nerfed, or preferably other classes brought up to par. DK is pretty great as well, but Templar and Sorcerer need some heavy Passive Skill reworking.

Oh the classic "you are bad at PvP" argument. I guess you don't know who you're talking to - that's ok.

If NB was as strong as people say - then why would I be farming them on my Templar rather than playing my NB, which I enjoy much more?

If you want to see the days when NB was actually strong & capable of beating anyone in 1v1 & 1vX, then I have plenty of videos on my channel from those days.

Umm..... Because 70% or more of the players in Cyrodiil are Nightblades? For good reason too. Were ALL farming Nightblades, not just you.

I'm not doing background checks on a random player like yourself either, so no I don't know who you are supposed to be. Clearly not famous enough for anyone to magically know who you are on PS4. Lol

Stop trying to make out the Nightblade class to be anything other than it currently is, which is not only the overall strongest and most versatile class, but one which manages to allow plenty of build diversity as well.

Nightblade is honestly the only class I have played where I felt conflicted on which skills I should slot because there were so many good options!

Having build diversity doesn't mean something is "op".

Something is op when it clearly performs better than other classes.


If you look up some dueling tournament history from EU megaserver, you'll notice that the top 10 have traditionally almost exclusively been Sorcs & DKs.

This alone should be proof that NB is not overpowered, since it doesn't outperform other classes in 1v1 (in fact, it's clearly weaker there as the data suggests). I've already given plenty of analysis as to the cause of this in my previous posts.

Ganking people - fine, NB is strong - but not that much stronger than other classes (if at all).

Maybe at VD proxy bombing they're the best.


But this is very irrelevant. If a class performs well in 1vX/ganking, but poorly in 1v1 - how can you call the class "op"?

I don't feel "overpowered" if I have to run from people in PvP.

I'll rather just play magicka templar that doesn't have to run from anything or anyone.

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

The only thing that I can really note that seems off with passives is that Templar passives need to be worked on. I think that Dragonknight passives and Nightblade passives are both incredibly strong and bring a unique aspect to each class. Sorcerer passives are still a work in progress to help synergize with Stamina Sorcerers. Templar passives, however, could use some updating.

EDIT:

You missed Minor Prophecy for Sorcerers in the passives. Or maybe I'm just not reading correctly.

God_flakes wrote: »

Let's play the drinking game!!! Every time pubes praises/arse kisses Mojican, we all take a shot!

Lyar09 wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Lyar09 wrote: »

@Publius_Scipio dude you crack me up. Between your RP forum posts to the constant nonsense you type in zone chat haha btw Mojican is an imperial, no elf

Is that what Mojican told you? It's a mental glitch he has. He looks in the mirror and sees an imperial. But in reality everyone else sees this

Ya it has to be that elf magic man. Just like you think my toon looks like Drake -_- hahaha

OdinForge wrote: »

lmao

corn flakes

Anyway drink up God Flakes.