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WROBEL - Where Is Your Response To Your Official Sorcerer Thread???

byrom101b16_ESO
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I am going to keep going until you answer...

/bump if you agree please!
Edited by byrom101b16_ESO on May 11, 2016 8:29AM
  • Vangy
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    Who's Wroble?

    I know an Eric Wrobel... but no wroble........ And keep going with what? Le random pointless thread that is going to get locked in about 30 minutes??
    (2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
    (2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
    (2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
    (1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
    CP: 610 and counting

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates! Viva la revolutionz
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    Corrected.

    It is going to get locked - but it will show everyone that they do actually read the forums, that they do see what we write and that they value their forum rules more than our concerns.

    In any case I will have forced a response and we will banish all doubt as to what they truly see as important.
    Edited by byrom101b16_ESO on May 11, 2016 8:03AM
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    Corrected.

    It is going to get locked - but it will show everyone that they do read the forums, they do see what we write and they DON'T care about our concerns more than their forums rules.

    In any case I will have forced a response and we will banish all doubt as to what they truly see as important.

    dont stop on the forums, post on the twitter, the facebook, any social media platform they have with a simple message on every single new post and tweet

    "check the sorcerer feedback thread devs"

    hound them until they answer, dont give up, dont give in, cause thats what they want you to do, they are trying to exasperate the playerbase into rolling over and accepting asanine changes

    as a tim allen movie once said

    never give up, never surrender
    Edited by bloodenragedb14_ESO on May 11, 2016 8:04AM
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    Corrected.

    It is going to get locked - but it will show everyone that they do read the forums, they do see what we write and they DON'T care about our concerns more than their forums rules.

    In any case I will have forced a response and we will banish all doubt as to what they truly see as important.

    dont stop on the forums, post on the twitter, the facebook, any social media platform they have with a simple message on every single new post and tweet

    "check the sorcerer feedback thread devs"

    hound them until they answer, dont give up, dont give in, cause thats what they want you to do, they are trying to exasperate the playerbase into rolling over and accepting asanine changes

    as a tim allen movie once said

    never give up, never surrender

    Cheers for the support! ;)
  • Vangy
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    Corrected.

    It is going to get locked - but it will show everyone that they do actually read the forums, that they do see what we write and that they value their forum rules more than our concerns.

    In any case I will have forced a response and we will banish all doubt as to what they truly see as important.

    ... I hope you realise that not only are you cluttering the forums with purposeless duplicate threads, you are also breaking forum rules.... You are affecting the other users in the forum cos they have to sort through your duplicate threads.....The only thing you will force out of ZOS is a moderator ban or a mute on your account for a few days. Break enough rules and you will get a perma-ban.....I do not think this is the kind of response you are looking for.....
    Edited by Vangy on May 11, 2016 8:45AM
    (2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
    (2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
    (2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
    (1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
    CP: 610 and counting

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates! Viva la revolutionz
  • LorDrek
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    This is a game not real life. Would it be more fun, than this hate.
    Edited by LorDrek on May 11, 2016 8:50AM
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  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    Vangy wrote: »
    Corrected.

    It is going to get locked - but it will show everyone that they do actually read the forums, that they do see what we write and that they value their forum rules more than our concerns.

    In any case I will have forced a response and we will banish all doubt as to what they truly see as important.

    ... I hope you realise that not only are you cluttering the forums with purposeless duplicate threads, you are also breaking forum rules.... You are affecting the other users in the forum cos they have to sort through your duplicate threads.....The only thing you will force out of ZOS is a moderator ban or a mute on your account for a few days. Break enough rules and you will get a perma-ban.....I do not think this is the kind of response you are looking for.....

    I am acutely aware of the rules, what will happen and how I will react, thank you.

    Being banned from a forum for demanding nothing more than a response from an unresponsive company whose services I am buying flies pretty close to breaking my statutory rights.

    I welcome the ban-hammer should it come - as it will form part of my response.
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    LorDrek wrote: »
    This is a game not real life.

    Every product you buy that is a game is used in real life, and in real life you have consumer rights.

    Stop making excuses for those taking the money you earned in real life and treating you like dung.
    Edited by byrom101b16_ESO on May 11, 2016 8:49AM
  • kmatt
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    check the sorcerer feedback thread devs
    "Embrace Everything"

    ~~K.matt~~
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    LorDrek wrote: »
    This is a game not real life.

    i find it cute when someone says this

    but what if someone, say the international chess league or whatever, what if they decided to change how a knight or bishop could move, would you stand for it if you enjoyed chess

    people who enjoy this game have a right to feel passionate about it, if you do not, do not clutter up a thread with nonconstructive statements
  • TheHsN
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    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...
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    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • luxfreak
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...

    I realy kind feel bad, diagreeing with you on every sorc thread i find you.
    But you keep telling the same *** over and over again.
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  • KenaPKK
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    WTB Wrobel

    Stam sorcs need <3 and magicka sorcs need smaller shields :trollface:
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  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    luxfreak wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...

    I realy kind feel bad, diagreeing with you on every sorc thread i find you.
    But you keep telling the same *** over and over again.

    You are in all likelihood one of three things;

    1. A Stam. Sorc. player who welcomes the positive stuff you are rightly getting wiith this patch but who doesn't care about Mag. Sorc. players
    2. A non-Sorc. player who doesn't care about the class (but who would probably claim to be a Sorc. player when challenged)
    3. A PvP'er who gets owned by Mag. Sorcs. currently

    As you seem highly motivated to comment on every thread you can find, I don't care which, frankly - consider this a rhetorical statement.

    You feel 'bad'? Then stop posting...

    ... there, fixed that for ya.
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    WTB Wrobel

    Stam sorcs need <3 and magicka sorcs need smaller shields :trollface:

    You are too late.

    Wrobel has already been bought by low-skill PvP'ers who can't figure out how to kill a Sorc in PvP.

  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    luxfreak wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...

    I realy kind feel bad, diagreeing with you on every sorc thread i find you.
    But you keep telling the same *** over and over again.

    You are in all likelihood one of three things;

    1. A Stam. Sorc. player who welcomes the positive stuff you are rightly getting wiith this patch but who doesn't care about Mag. Sorc. players
    2. A non-Sorc. player who doesn't care about the class (but who would probably claim to be a Sorc. player when challenged)
    3. A PvP'er who gets owned by Mag. Sorcs. currently

    As you seem highly motivated to comment on every thread you can find, I don't care which, frankly - consider this a rhetorical statement.

    You feel 'bad'? Then stop posting...

    ... there, fixed that for ya.

    actually, from what ive observed he has some form of beef with Thehsn, but that is off topic

    if if your threads end up getting closed or getting banned, it does force some attention on the subject, bravo for taking the bullet on that sir.
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    luxfreak wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...

    I realy kind feel bad, diagreeing with you on every sorc thread i find you.
    But you keep telling the same *** over and over again.

    You are in all likelihood one of three things;

    1. A Stam. Sorc. player who welcomes the positive stuff you are rightly getting wiith this patch but who doesn't care about Mag. Sorc. players
    2. A non-Sorc. player who doesn't care about the class (but who would probably claim to be a Sorc. player when challenged)
    3. A PvP'er who gets owned by Mag. Sorcs. currently

    As you seem highly motivated to comment on every thread you can find, I don't care which, frankly - consider this a rhetorical statement.

    You feel 'bad'? Then stop posting...

    ... there, fixed that for ya.

    actually, from what ive observed he has some form of beef with Thehsn, but that is off topic

    if if your threads end up getting closed or getting banned, it does force some attention on the subject, bravo for taking the bullet on that sir.

    Oh they'll find some way to ignore me, and by extension all Mag. Sorc. players - mark my words. :neutral:

    But thanks anyway...
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    luxfreak wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...

    I realy kind feel bad, diagreeing with you on every sorc thread i find you.
    But you keep telling the same *** over and over again.

    You are in all likelihood one of three things;

    1. A Stam. Sorc. player who welcomes the positive stuff you are rightly getting wiith this patch but who doesn't care about Mag. Sorc. players
    2. A non-Sorc. player who doesn't care about the class (but who would probably claim to be a Sorc. player when challenged)
    3. A PvP'er who gets owned by Mag. Sorcs. currently

    As you seem highly motivated to comment on every thread you can find, I don't care which, frankly - consider this a rhetorical statement.

    You feel 'bad'? Then stop posting...

    ... there, fixed that for ya.

    actually, from what ive observed he has some form of beef with Thehsn, but that is off topic

    if if your threads end up getting closed or getting banned, it does force some attention on the subject, bravo for taking the bullet on that sir.

    Oh they'll find some way to ignore me, and by extension all Mag. Sorc. players - mark my words. :neutral:

    But thanks anyway...

    seriously get on social media, even if they get to you here, you can get others see that there is a problem, and possibly continue to reach out to the devs, even if they attempt to sweep you under the rug
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    luxfreak wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...

    I realy kind feel bad, diagreeing with you on every sorc thread i find you.
    But you keep telling the same *** over and over again.

    You are in all likelihood one of three things;

    1. A Stam. Sorc. player who welcomes the positive stuff you are rightly getting wiith this patch but who doesn't care about Mag. Sorc. players
    2. A non-Sorc. player who doesn't care about the class (but who would probably claim to be a Sorc. player when challenged)
    3. A PvP'er who gets owned by Mag. Sorcs. currently

    As you seem highly motivated to comment on every thread you can find, I don't care which, frankly - consider this a rhetorical statement.

    You feel 'bad'? Then stop posting...

    ... there, fixed that for ya.

    actually, from what ive observed he has some form of beef with Thehsn, but that is off topic

    if if your threads end up getting closed or getting banned, it does force some attention on the subject, bravo for taking the bullet on that sir.

    Oh they'll find some way to ignore me, and by extension all Mag. Sorc. players - mark my words. :neutral:

    But thanks anyway...

    seriously get on social media, even if they get to you here, you can get others see that there is a problem, and possibly continue to reach out to the devs, even if they attempt to sweep you under the rug

    When is their next podcast?
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    luxfreak wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    i thing he is right.. they are opening offical feedback for sorc.. but they are doing still opposite things what people want there... That is unrespectfull ok...and doing something is always better then stay and look and obey ok...game or reall life always fight for what u want...

    I realy kind feel bad, diagreeing with you on every sorc thread i find you.
    But you keep telling the same *** over and over again.

    You are in all likelihood one of three things;

    1. A Stam. Sorc. player who welcomes the positive stuff you are rightly getting wiith this patch but who doesn't care about Mag. Sorc. players
    2. A non-Sorc. player who doesn't care about the class (but who would probably claim to be a Sorc. player when challenged)
    3. A PvP'er who gets owned by Mag. Sorcs. currently

    As you seem highly motivated to comment on every thread you can find, I don't care which, frankly - consider this a rhetorical statement.

    You feel 'bad'? Then stop posting...

    ... there, fixed that for ya.

    actually, from what ive observed he has some form of beef with Thehsn, but that is off topic

    if if your threads end up getting closed or getting banned, it does force some attention on the subject, bravo for taking the bullet on that sir.

    Oh they'll find some way to ignore me, and by extension all Mag. Sorc. players - mark my words. :neutral:

    But thanks anyway...

    seriously get on social media, even if they get to you here, you can get others see that there is a problem, and possibly continue to reach out to the devs, even if they attempt to sweep you under the rug

    When is their next podcast?

    no idea, but im talking twitter, facebook. every new post they up, remind them, and others, there is a problem.
  • Taisynn
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    Just because they didn't listen to your feedback doesn't mean they didn't read it. And another thing - feedback isn't only given from forums. The game UI has a feedback button too. There is a whole range of feedback you don't get to see as well.

    Please, instead of throwing a tantrum and breaking all the rules, just calm down. And if they block or lock it, they're YOUR host. You are a guest. And if you read the terms of service when you signed up, you have literally no rights but to play the game...

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  • Enodoc
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    It is going to get locked - but it will show everyone that they do actually read the forums, that they do see what we write and that they value their forum rules more than our concerns.
    No it won't. It will show everyone that the forum mods value the forum rules. It won't tell you anything about how the devs value our concerns.
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  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    It is going to get locked - but it will show everyone that they do actually read the forums, that they do see what we write and that they value their forum rules more than our concerns.
    No it won't. It will show everyone that the forum mods value the forum rules. It won't tell you anything about how the devs value our concerns.

    The fact that some feel that this is the only course of action should be indicative enough of the current state of player/dev communication, or rather, lack thereof
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    Taisynn wrote: »
    Just because they didn't listen to your feedback doesn't mean they didn't read it. And another thing - feedback isn't only given from forums. The game UI has a feedback button too. There is a whole range of feedback you don't get to see as well.

    Please, instead of throwing a tantrum and breaking all the rules, just calm down. And if they block or lock it, they're YOUR host. You are a guest. And if you read the terms of service when you signed up, you have literally no rights but to play the game...

    klRV3bWAC.jpg

    I am from the UK - not the USA, where consumer rights are a pathetic shadow of those here. The recent law passed here on consumer rights and the use of software based ''product' is light years ahead of the USA's approach to rolling over for corporations.

    Secondly, I am fully aware, and have stated I am fully aware of the CURRENT situation - contractually and otherwise. But then so is any person or persons who seek to change the status quo when it pisses them off.

    Should that stop them?

    No...

    The kind of person who thinks you should just accept what you are handed by 'those in authority' and that any and all outrage or frustration that is stated should be labelled a 'tantrum' is precisely the kind of meek silent sufferer who they will never have to worry about regardless of what they fob them off with.
    Edited by byrom101b16_ESO on May 11, 2016 9:52AM
  • tennant94
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    They have made the worst changes to sorcerer they will be useless at pvp now. Unless permanently spamming shields and applying no damage is useful.
    Edited by tennant94 on May 11, 2016 10:33AM
  • Taisynn
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    It IS a trantrum when you go from protesting/saying your peace to making constant repeat threads for attention. You're making an ass of yourself.
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  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    Taisynn wrote: »
    It IS a trantrum when you go from protesting/saying your peace to making constant repeat threads for attention. You're making an ass of yourself.

    Insults now?

    You don't seem to understand how protesting works. The central idea is to make yourself hard to ignore and disruptive to things the target of your protest is involved in.

    If YOU don't like protesting, then there is no reason to protest yourself is there?

    Please don't try and deny your large, dismissive and marginally relevant cartoon spam wasn't itself a protest Taisynn...

    ... that's precisely what it is.

    So - turn that frown upside down and admit you're a protester yourself!
  • Jhunn
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    Taisynn wrote: »
    It IS a trantrum when you go from protesting/saying your peace to making constant repeat threads for attention. You're making an ass of yourself.

    Insults now?

    You don't seem to understand how protesting works. The central idea is to make yourself hard to ignore and disruptive to things the target of your protest is involved in.

    If YOU don't like protesting, then there is no reason to protest yourself is there?

    Please don't try and deny your large, dismissive and marginally relevant cartoon spam wasn't itself a protest Taisynn...

    ... that's precisely what it is.

    So - turn that frown upside down and admit you're a protester yourself!
    Call it a protest if you want - I call it acting like an annoying kid who doesn't get what he wants at the candy store.

    I don't agree with the shield nerfs, surge changes and generally think other classes, except a few already there, should've been buffed to match magicka sorc. But acting like a spoiled brat, covering it as 'going against the authority' and 'protesting'?

    Nah. You'll get nothing constructive out of this. Enjoy the ban, though.
    Edited by Jhunn on May 11, 2016 10:32AM
    Gave up.
  • ginoboehm
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    Taisynn wrote: »
    It IS a trantrum when you go from protesting/saying your peace to making constant repeat threads for attention. You're making an ass of yourself.

    Insults now?

    You don't seem to understand how protesting works. The central idea is to make yourself hard to ignore and disruptive to things the target of your protest is involved in.

    If YOU don't like protesting, then there is no reason to protest yourself is there?

    Please don't try and deny your large, dismissive and marginally relevant cartoon spam wasn't itself a protest Taisynn...

    ... that's precisely what it is.

    So - turn that frown upside down and admit you're a protester yourself!
    Call it a protest if you want - I call it acting like an annoying kid who doesn't get what he wants at the candy store.

    I don't agree with the shield nerfs, surge changes and generally think other classes, except a few already there, should've been buffed to match magicka sorc. But acting like a spoiled brat, covering it as 'going against the authority' and 'protesting'?

    Nah. You'll get nothing constructive out of this. Enjoy the ban, though.

    i simply don't get the shield changes they make little sense beside push even more annoying sorc builds and increased ganking against them. what makes sorcs strong imo is their ability to live through every burst you throw at them simply by pressing 3 buttons over and over again and then counter with a fast deadly burst of their own. nothing beside making that stronger has changed. for pvp i like the surge changes for the reasons i stated.
  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    Jhunn wrote: »
    Taisynn wrote: »
    It IS a trantrum when you go from protesting/saying your peace to making constant repeat threads for attention. You're making an ass of yourself.

    Insults now?

    You don't seem to understand how protesting works. The central idea is to make yourself hard to ignore and disruptive to things the target of your protest is involved in.

    If YOU don't like protesting, then there is no reason to protest yourself is there?

    Please don't try and deny your large, dismissive and marginally relevant cartoon spam wasn't itself a protest Taisynn...

    ... that's precisely what it is.

    So - turn that frown upside down and admit you're a protester yourself!
    Call it a protest if you want - I call it acting like an annoying kid who doesn't get what he wants at the candy store.

    I don't agree with the shield nerfs, surge changes and generally think other classes, except a few already there, should've been buffed to match magicka sorc. But acting like a spoiled brat, covering it as 'going against the authority' and 'protesting'?

    Nah. You'll get nothing constructive out of this. Enjoy the ban, though.

    More insults - and all 'child' reference based.

    Perhaps you are content to roll over and accept what you PAY for despite it being less than what you want.

    Perhaps you have been sufficiently indoctrinated to see consumer complaint as 'childish' and evidently, you think insulting someone who hasn't addressed you is acceptable behaviour.

    Young children are inclined accept what they are given by those with authority over them, and children think it is acceptable to insult others when they disagree with them. They lack the maturity and judgement to separate the point they wish to criticise from the individual, and they strike out because they cannot help themselves.

    I leave you to draw your own conclusions on how you fit such a profile.

    You may also want to consider how one changes anything with passivity when one is being ignored by those with the ability to change it?
    Edited by byrom101b16_ESO on May 11, 2016 11:01AM
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