Publius_Scipio wrote: »

JDar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Look, I've played this game for 2 years and know the history...how AD was the original overmanned guild and many flipped EP to help imbalance,

Those days are long gone.

AD on TF is doing everything we can to take down EP. We have been stuck at Faregyl frequently this campaign. When that is the case, we always go for Alessia. Even pugs who don't understand the map/population/emperorship dynamic infrequently go for roe. If we have Alessia, we go for Blue Road.

This campaign is an all-out AD/EP war. Very much reminiscent of post-DiE flip Thornblade. I'm not naming any names but AD and EP guilds have some unfinished business that is being handled right now. DC is kind of just watching it.

Edit: Jauriel no offense but the AD guilds on TF are not out to do anything to DC except get AP from them and prevent EP emperor. We are not pushing hard for emperor. If the situation presents itself we try; that seemed to be the consensus when we discussed it.

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JDar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Look, I've played this game for 2 years and know the history...how AD was the original overmanned guild and many flipped EP to help imbalance,

Those days are long gone. AD on TF has no map control zerg guild any more.

Ad doesn't have a numbers advantage on TF. But they regularly help EP and regularly get pampered and diapered and hand held by EP. They have the orange team advantage thing going on and it's a little pathetic. EP shouldn't need Ad help but every night I've played there is ad holding northern DC keeps to give EP an edge.

I do not think your perspective is what is actually happening, and here's why. AD on TF is doing everything we can to take down EP. We have been stuck at Faregyl frequently this campaign. When that is the case, we always go for Alessia. Even pugs who don't understand the map/population/emperorship dynamic infrequently go for roe. If we have Alessia, we go for Blue Road.

This campaign is an all-out AD/EP war. Very much reminiscent of post-DiE flip Thornblade. I'm not naming any names but AD and EP guilds have some unfinished business that is being handled right now. DC is kind of just watching it.

Edit: Jauriel no offense but the AD guilds on TF are not out to do anything to DC except get AP from them and prevent EP emperor. We are not pushing hard for emperor. If the situation presents itself we try; that seemed to be the consensus when we discussed it.

Edited again for quotation accuracy and clarity

Jdar, thanks for your input. You know I respect you immensely. I realize there are too many AD in TF who seek to only attempt to troll and farm, and never really contribute to any meaningful campaign play or even assist their AD counterparts who are trying to stimulate a worthwhile AD presence. Which is precisely why Guard siezed Faregyl last night and gave them a taste of their own medicine. Funny thing is, Havoc showed up after we wiped AD twice on the farm, and they got flattened as well. Had to ask myself why such leets would abandon the hard DC push up north to come engage at Faregyl. Prior to that DC scouts in zone were calling out that EP and Ad were standing side by side outside Glade, not fighting one another.

Perhaps I am making too much of these things and perhaps I am not. It is what it is, I guess. But when I study the map every night I rarely see crossed swords for long between AD and EP and usually it is near Sej and Allessia and never for very long...even when AD has 3 bars. EP never really seems to push Ad very hard, seems like the kid gloves are always on with them. And some nights I can't for the life of me figure out what AD is doing. Whereas the map up north is constantly dynamic, keeps flipping red to blue and back again and huge battles at Chal gate.

If my observations are skewed then so be it. Let's see AD push EP tonight (the victors) right to Farragut. Let's see them push past Sej. I would think certainly 3 bars combined AD and 3 bars combined DC (each doing their own thing) can put some hurt on the big dog. Just a thought.