Jep they should force people to more focus on groups of 4-8 players in pvp make it so it isn't as rewarding as a big group to run around and kill people as in what zergs do. No way a 4 man can survive against a zerg of 20 its just a matter of numbers.

GeertKarel wrote: »

Jep they should force people to more focus on groups of 4-8 players in pvp make it so it isn't as rewarding as a big group to run around and kill people as in what zergs do. No way a 4 man can survive against a zerg of 20 its just a matter of numbers.

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Zheg wrote: »

GeertKarel wrote: »

Jep they should force people to more focus on groups of 4-8 players in pvp make it so it isn't as rewarding as a big group to run around and kill people as in what zergs do. No way a 4 man can survive against a zerg of 20 its just a matter of numbers.

I counted 9 reds. You're calling this a big group/zerg? If this guy had 2 more people he would have been able to bomb and likely win, even though he'd be outnumbered 3 to 1.

Most of what I say in TS when leading is calling out prox timers and movement, the second is "don't chase the squirrel". If a squirrel is being annoying and harassing back lines, or if one is right in our path and we've already engaged each other, since when did running away become a valid tactic and complaint when you die? "I ran and they chased me! Can you believe it?! It's clearly the number 1 problem in ESO!! (for permacloaking gankers)" Most of the time if they get far enough to not be killed in 4 seconds it's not worth the effort to chase. If they've put everyone in combat and you can't mount now (because ESO mechanics are stupid) and need to head to a keep and actually contribute to the map instead of ganking, sometimes the best thing to do is chase and kill.

most things is read here are L2P issues, a proper leader dousnt care about 1 ganker... proper leader with 9man groups focuses on 20-30 man groups to bomb them down, atleast thats what ive been doing.

that one guy isnt worth to kill , it all matters on numbers, whats the AP for 1 kil, nothing, look in the big picture, only go for 20+ ppl groups

Yeah I think he hit the point there. Nro 1 issue is people who exaggerate things. 9 persons turns into 20 suddenly.

Zheg wrote: »

alexandrutenhove wrote: »

most things is read here are L2P issues, a proper leader dousnt care about 1 ganker... proper leader with 9man groups focuses on 20-30 man groups to bomb them down, atleast thats what ive been doing.

that one guy isnt worth to kill , it all matters on numbers, whats the AP for 1 kil, nothing, look in the big picture, only go for 20+ ppl groups

Did you ever consider that maybe it's not a matter of that group needing the AP, but wanting to chase you two down for the prodigious hate tells and extreme salt levels you're known for? Sorry to say bro, but this is probably a personality issue, and all it takes is one minute of audio from your TS to demonstrate my point. If you've ever wondered why you get chased and other gankers don't, well, maybe that's something to start thinking about.

And yes, if I've got a 9 man group and I'm trying to get somewhere to bomb a group of 20+, if you go after my only negate or my healer, you will be responded to. "Hey guys, I know we're about to go into a heavily outnumbered fight, without our healer, but zergbad wants to be able to gank and then be granted immunity as soon as he runs away because reasons, so we can't chase him, and our healer will just have to run back, not get ganked again, and put a camp down for us once we wipe because we didn't have a healer". Sounds legit man.

well, agreed on some points about ganking at your healer, what we do in our smallscale groups, 4-8 people and we dont run healers at all, there might be 1 or 2 templars, but they are full smallscale proper 1vX builded and experienced, so if they get ganked, they know how to handle, we dont run a proper healbot build in our groups, i mean, a stamina templar or stam DK for example, ignious shield/purify ritual + vigor an dodgeroll = instagib heal to 100% health + rally/shuffle spam... why would you have a healbot running arround , they can catch up with most of the ppl in our group with BoL spam.

about the salt.. yeah try a health regen tank wich hits almost 8K health recovery with the new permafrost set or make argonian master race magicka DK with 60-80K health, and u will know what true salt whisphers are...

anyway thx for your opinion, i understand what u want to tell me in 1 minute on TS, no need for, i know everything about salty hate gankers those gankers deserve to be ganked down deep to the alliance war entrance gates... yesterday a nightblade send a whispher to my friend who played a stamsorc, the nightblade told him he was an exloiter with his disintrigration passive or how the f*ck its called, oh the nightblade was a magicka nb with frost staff root spam... those guys, i agree, need to get zerged down. you have 2 type of gankers, 1: the one that run the most annoying build and complain and whisper salt to anyone they can't gank. 2: the ones who gank you in 1 second and dont complain if they get zerged/killed themselves, they simply respawn and repeat.

Zheg wrote: »

since when did running away become a valid tactic and complaint when you die? "I ran and they chased me! Can you believe it?! It's clearly the number 1 problem in ESO!! (for permacloaking gankers)"

That's almost as funny as when zergyouknowwho tries to gank someone and dies repeatedly without killing anyone, then freaks out and starts spamming a bunch of hate (after ignoring before his first whisper of course) like, "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU KILLED ME AFTER I INITIATED GET SKILL" then of course links twitch, because it would be so helpful to watch him get beat at his own game over and over like a scrub.

It's weird I really only see such crazy behavior on Trueflame, is that a server culture or something?
I almost never get hate tells in Haderus (which I play in 99% of the time)