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We Need to Formally Address the Lag in PvP as a Community

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We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

I'm completely fed up with this:
XIDrcZC.png?1

And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
@Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?
Edited by Mythk on May 4, 2016 3:48AM
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    Complaining about 334 server ping? Pft, lightweight.
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Complaining about 334 server ping? Pft, lightweight.
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    Mythk wrote: »
    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Complaining about 334 server ping? Pft, lightweight.
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    yeah Germ it's gotten pretty bad at prime time anymore. At this point I have just kinda accepted it's a lost cause, it's probably too late for them to fix it. If they really wanted to fix it they would have done so by now.

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    I completely understand being fed up and as a community we have with probably hundreds of threads addressed the lag in cyrodil over and over . The developers continue to reply that they are always working on it . I'm not exactly sure what more the community can do to address it . Those that have left the game have shown as much as anyone can show its too much for some players . All of Us in cyrodil are effected by it .

    If there is something we can do for the developers to help give info we will and often do . If there's something more needed I'm listening .
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    Mythk wrote: »
    We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

    I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

    I'm completely fed up with this:
    XIDrcZC.png?1

    And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

    The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

    Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
    @Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?

    What is unacceptable for me is the level of intelligence that players have when they keep blaming Zenimax after 2years but keep zerging it up playing in absurd large groups and stacking with 60-80+ players on the screen. They don't try to change their playstyle and behaviours ingame to help the server. That's even worse than Zenimax not holding their promises in my book.
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Mythk wrote: »
    We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

    I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

    I'm completely fed up with this:
    XIDrcZC.png?1

    And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

    The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

    Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
    @Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?

    What is unacceptable for me is the level of intelligence that players have when they keep blaming Zenimax after 2years but keep zerging it up playing in absurd large groups and stacking with 60-80+ players on the screen. They don't try to change their playstyle and behaviours ingame to help the server. That's even worse than Zenimax not holding their promises in my book.

    And when I get lag in a campaign that has 1 bar pop per faction and only 5-8 players on screen?

    I think you need to stop beating that dead horse..... surely you gotta get some bad kama playing with a corpse like that...?
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Mythk wrote: »
    We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

    I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

    I'm completely fed up with this:
    XIDrcZC.png?1

    And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

    The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

    Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
    @Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?

    What is unacceptable for me is the level of intelligence that players have when they keep blaming Zenimax after 2years but keep zerging it up playing in absurd large groups and stacking with 60-80+ players on the screen. They don't try to change their playstyle and behaviours ingame to help the server. That's even worse than Zenimax not holding their promises in my book.

    In case you missed it this game was sold to us with promises of huge players vs player battles with hundreds of players on screen sieging keeps. That's the PVP I bought two years ago not this lag fest Zenimax delivered. They need to fix Cyrodiil and deliver the product the promised.
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    If they were going to fix it, it would be fixed already.

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    I tried BDO but you need to infest to much time in the game in order to be slightly competitive. Gear and level are more important in BDO then skill. Also the world looks great and I love seamless no loading screens, but i found the world dull and missing personality. And also lag is around in BDO especially in large PvP battles (not always) and it's hard to see when to dodge an attack since 99% of the attacks are AOE anyway.

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    As depressing as it is, the only thing that is going to fix the lag is the mass exodus coming when a certain game lands.
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    Ghostbane wrote: »
    As depressing as it is, the only thing that is going to fix the lag is the mass exodus coming when a certain game lands.

    Sadly...your probably right.
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    Ghostbane wrote: »
    As depressing as it is, the only thing that is going to fix the lag is the mass exodus coming when a certain game lands.

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    Not our job. We shouldnt have to say or do anything. Lag is problem, lag = fixed. Thats entirely on ZoS.
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Ghostbane wrote: »
    As depressing as it is, the only thing that is going to fix the lag is the mass exodus coming when a certain game lands.

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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Mythk wrote: »
    We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

    I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

    I'm completely fed up with this:
    XIDrcZC.png?1

    And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

    The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

    Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
    @Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?

    What is unacceptable for me is the level of intelligence that players have when they keep blaming Zenimax after 2years but keep zerging it up playing in absurd large groups and stacking with 60-80+ players on the screen. They don't try to change their playstyle and behaviours ingame to help the server. That's even worse than Zenimax not holding their promises in my book.

    It's almost like players expect to be able to play the game how it was advertised, and why they bought it. What idiots!!

    If I wanted smaller scale PvP, I would have bought a game that offered it.
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    The lag issue in Cyrodiil is so severe that when I get kicked from the game due to a lag spike in prime time - 999+, I can't login to the relevant character - since it is in Cyrodiil.
    But I'm able to login to my other characters which are not in Cyrodiil.
    The fault which makes my character stuck(thus unable to connect to it) is clearly Cyrodiil's server side...

    lag fixed=people read about it online and then buy the game=bigger player base.
    The internet is full of posts about ESO lag issue, it intimidates anyone who thinks of joining this community.
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    Lag is the reason why I am never in cyrodiil and always in IC. The lag in IC is bearable as long as I stay away from the EP zerg in arena district.
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    Sallington wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Mythk wrote: »
    We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

    I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

    I'm completely fed up with this:
    XIDrcZC.png?1

    And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

    The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

    Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
    @Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?

    What is unacceptable for me is the level of intelligence that players have when they keep blaming Zenimax after 2years but keep zerging it up playing in absurd large groups and stacking with 60-80+ players on the screen. They don't try to change their playstyle and behaviours ingame to help the server. That's even worse than Zenimax not holding their promises in my book.

    It's almost like players expect to be able to play the game how it was advertised, and why they bought it. What idiots!!

    If I wanted smaller scale PvP, I would have bought a game that offered it.

    Smallscale pvp is better anyways sooooooooooooooo. Git gud :smile:
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    EsoRecon wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
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    We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

    I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

    I'm completely fed up with this:
    XIDrcZC.png?1

    And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

    The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

    Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
    @Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?

    What is unacceptable for me is the level of intelligence that players have when they keep blaming Zenimax after 2years but keep zerging it up playing in absurd large groups and stacking with 60-80+ players on the screen. They don't try to change their playstyle and behaviours ingame to help the server. That's even worse than Zenimax not holding their promises in my book.

    It's almost like players expect to be able to play the game how it was advertised, and why they bought it. What idiots!!

    If I wanted smaller scale PvP, I would have bought a game that offered it.

    Smallscale pvp is better anyways sooooooooooooooo. Git gud :smile:

    When it happens organically it's fun, not forced smallscale because the server craps itself when an actually keep battle happens.
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  • EsoRecon
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    Sallington wrote: »
    EsoRecon wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Mythk wrote: »
    We, as a PvP community, need something from ZoS that confirms they are working on the lag.

    I am tired of night after night of opening up a separate ping monitor to compare to my ingame latency overlay to see if it's my connection or the servers just going to hell. I'm tired of hoping that ZoS will do something about the servers to improve them or do something to fix the lag.

    I'm completely fed up with this:
    XIDrcZC.png?1

    And this isn't even the worst of it. Many players would consider this "playable" or that they are lucky they are even able to play right now. This is completely unacceptable. And as I mentioned, this is just MINOR lag. This is the lag you get at 10 PM CST on a Tuesday night. Don't get me started on the lag you get on the weekends, though I believe @Jules made a post showing how bad the lag can be. Personally I have to avoid playing at those times to at least try to keep some of my sanity when trying to play this game. Kudos to everyone who endures those disgusting conditions.

    The point of this post is that we as a PvP community need to stop accepting this. We need some sort of statement, no smoke and mirrors, about whether or not they are going to fix the lag. I'm tired of them making blanket statements about "performance fixes" and saying that things are going well, because they aren't. PvP is completely unplayable half of the time.

    Can we please get an official statement on the lag and whether or not ZoS intends on making PvP playable? If you aren't going to fix things and make your game playable I would very much like to know so that I can give up on this sinking ship that you call a game and get onto something that won't frustrate me to no end every time I attempt to play.
    @Lord_Hev would you be so kind as to do your dev summoning ritual for me?

    What is unacceptable for me is the level of intelligence that players have when they keep blaming Zenimax after 2years but keep zerging it up playing in absurd large groups and stacking with 60-80+ players on the screen. They don't try to change their playstyle and behaviours ingame to help the server. That's even worse than Zenimax not holding their promises in my book.

    It's almost like players expect to be able to play the game how it was advertised, and why they bought it. What idiots!!

    If I wanted smaller scale PvP, I would have bought a game that offered it.

    Smallscale pvp is better anyways sooooooooooooooo. Git gud :smile:

    When it happens organically it's fun, not forced smallscale because the server craps itself when an actually keep battle happens.

    I can agree with that. I JUST WANT ARENAS :(
    Edited by EsoRecon on May 4, 2016 12:21PM
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    there is no pvp community anymore, only bunch of farmers at cyrodiil
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    there is no pvp community anymore, only bunch of farmers at cyrodiil

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    I am officially done trying to encourage people to spread out to help performances. Keep zerging and blaming Zenimax for not delivering what they advertised until your best game gets released. Then go play your new game for another and blame them for not delivering what they promised while zerging it up until Zenimax fix this game so yall come back to it.
    Edited by frozywozy on May 4, 2016 1:35PM
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    I am officially done trying to encourage people to spread out to help performances. Keep zerging and blaming Zenimax for not delivering what they advertised until your best game gets released. Then go play your new game for another and blame them for not delivering what they promised while zerging it up until Zenimax fix this game so yall come back to it.

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