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Poison dmg and poisons

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I have a friend who is interested in playing ESO once he gets a PS4. I've been telling him about the game since some time ago. Yesterday I was telling him about the DB patch (which is the thing he's waiting to get the PS4) and at some point he got really confused.

I explained him about the introduction of poisons and he pointed out if these poisons were different from poison dmg, which they are. Then I went to explain him about the changes in DKs for poison attacks and he understood that DKs attacks with poison weapons still did flame attack, but poisoned... it took me a while explain him again the difference between poisons and poison dmg and I don't think he really got it.

I think it can be very confusing for people unrelated to the game, and for new people to undesrtand the difference between poison and poison, so, I suggest a minor change for the tooltip: we keep on talking about poison (dmg) and, instead of talking about the DBs poisons, why we don't talk about Venoms? That require only a minor change only for bow line poison arrow morph, whose name, instead of being "venom arrow" could be changed to "venomous arrow", but it will be less confusing for newcomers, as well as for people who wants to come back to the game.
Edited by Xvorg on April 30, 2016 1:29PM
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  • susmitds
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    Not sure if I understood what you mean.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Not sure if I understood what you mean.

    Exactly! He's explaining the difference between Poison(Alchemy) and Poison(Attack damage) which uses the same name, but do completely different effects.
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    They should be named "toxins" and not poison. Venom specifically refers to animal sources, while toxins is broad and includes plants.
  • ADarklore
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    But... doesn't the poison, when equipped, do 'poison damage'?
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  • ContraTempo
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    Agree there are too many different things using the same terms. Somehow we need to be able to distinguish what we are talking about or our discussions will become unintelligible. Imagine trying to talk about the damage a DK does in battle when using (alchemy) poisons AND skills with poison effects AND poison enchant on a weapon. So lost we will be.

    And noobs? No way will they get it.
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  • Xvorg
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    They should be named "toxins" and not poison. Venom specifically refers to animal sources, while toxins is broad and includes plants.

    Yup, it is a good idea too and I think it reflects better the idea related to the patch.
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    I was born with the wrong sign
    In the wrong house
    With the wrong ascendancy
    I took the wrong road
    That led to the wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
  • JoshenReborn
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno this guy has a point. It's already becoming a bit confusing and the patch isn't out. Toxins has a cool ring. Unless crafted poisons are effected by mighty in which case it all makes sense.
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno this guy has a point. It's already becoming a bit confusing and the patch isn't out. Toxins has a cool ring. Unless crafted poisons are effected by mighty in which case it all makes sense.

    Why wouldn't it? If it is a POISON, it should benefit from CPs that improve poison damage. Has anyone on PTS did any testing to see whether or not Poison enchantments are or aren't effected by Mighty?
    Edited by ADarklore on April 30, 2016 4:53PM
    CP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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