So to summarize.
Is it safe to do it or not?
Will you get banned or not?
No need to say anything else only answering these questions is enough.
Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »i'd think, he meant, that people were banned without exploiting, not that there might have been another way.
So to summarize.
Is it safe to do it or not?
Will you get banned or not?
No need to say anything else only answering these questions is enough.
The exploit in question has been fixed. You can't do what was done to abuse it any more.
You're free to do surveys as normal, if you happen to find another bug/exploit regarding them under the new restrictions then report it to ZOS and don't do it.
RedRoomGaming wrote: »Are you serious? I have like a weeks worth of doubles to collect I hope I don't get banned.carudocb16_ESO wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.
Bans are also affecting those that don't even own a mobile banker.
It seems that anything that means you have more than one of each survey map such as daily writs rewards from more than one character will get you banned if they are moved via the normal bank and then collected by one character.
clocksstoppe wrote: »
Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »carudocb16_ESO wrote: »carudocb16_ESO wrote: »Please correct me if I'm wrong but the exploit in question is only possible if you have bought the mobile banker, right ?
If so you would think that at the very least ZOS would check the accounts they were banning actually owned the mobile banker before getting out the banhammer.
According to several people in this thread, no. It doesn't only happen if you have/use the mobile banker
Unfortunately as we aren't allowed to discuss exploits this is difficult to discuss but I thought the now fixed map duplication exploit required the use of a mobile banker. I can't for the life of me figure out how you'd do it with a normal bank but if you say there is a way I believe you.
i'd think, he meant, that people were banned without exploiting, not that there might have been another way.
So if I do them like I always have, which will soon be with 6 Crag located Alt-Crafters, taking and doing on each character separately.
If all 6 have the same survey map in inventory, they are still "by character" and not by account aren't they? I won't lose 5 survey maps as soon as my first character goes to retrieve one of the duplicates and reaches the location will I?
Each survey is still a single "episode" of activity on that single map correct?
clocksstoppe wrote: »
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
carudocb16_ESO wrote: »The problem is ZOS have the data, they just didn't think through how they analysed it and now innocent customers have to suffer along with the cheats
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
No that's not what happened to you. I'm referring to people farming mats normally, without survey maps. They could end up with 500 mats in their inventory for just 1 map used.
Your case is different. I don't know how or why the script caught you.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
No that's not what happened to you. I'm referring to people farming mats normally, without survey maps. They could end up with 500 mats in their inventory for just 1 map used.
Your case is different. I don't know how or why the script caught you.
Ah okay. But yeah, all I did was just stash the surveys in the bank for my crafter. Grab the surveys on crafter, and then go pick them up the survey goods. After that, I did my typical farming routes. No exploits. No duplicating. No stashing nothin' with my crafter onto my banker, but alchemy mats and raw materials. That was all. I never once stashed a survey on my banker with my crafter. Not once. Always on characters that I just knock the dailies with for gold. That's it.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
No that's not what happened to you. I'm referring to people farming mats normally, without survey maps. They could end up with 500 mats in their inventory for just 1 map used.
Your case is different. I don't know how or why the script caught you.
Ah okay. But yeah, all I did was just stash the surveys in the bank for my crafter. Grab the surveys on crafter, and then go pick them up the survey goods. After that, I did my typical farming routes. No exploits. No duplicating. No stashing nothin' with my crafter onto my banker, but alchemy mats and raw materials. That was all. I never once stashed a survey on my banker with my crafter. Not once. Always on characters that I just knock the dailies with for gold. That's it.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
No that's not what happened to you. I'm referring to people farming mats normally, without survey maps. They could end up with 500 mats in their inventory for just 1 map used.
Your case is different. I don't know how or why the script caught you.
Ah okay. But yeah, all I did was just stash the surveys in the bank for my crafter. Grab the surveys on crafter, and then go pick them up the survey goods. After that, I did my typical farming routes. No exploits. No duplicating. No stashing nothin' with my crafter onto my banker, but alchemy mats and raw materials. That was all. I never once stashed a survey on my banker with my crafter. Not once. Always on characters that I just knock the dailies with for gold. That's it.
So you are saying you typically get 500 mats per survey? Thats the only way the ban kicks in.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
No that's not what happened to you. I'm referring to people farming mats normally, without survey maps. They could end up with 500 mats in their inventory for just 1 map used.
Your case is different. I don't know how or why the script caught you.
Ah okay. But yeah, all I did was just stash the surveys in the bank for my crafter. Grab the surveys on crafter, and then go pick them up the survey goods. After that, I did my typical farming routes. No exploits. No duplicating. No stashing nothin' with my crafter onto my banker, but alchemy mats and raw materials. That was all. I never once stashed a survey on my banker with my crafter. Not once. Always on characters that I just knock the dailies with for gold. That's it.
So you are saying you typically get 500 mats per survey? Thats the only way the ban kicks in.
... Have you read anything I typed?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
No that's not what happened to you. I'm referring to people farming mats normally, without survey maps. They could end up with 500 mats in their inventory for just 1 map used.
Your case is different. I don't know how or why the script caught you.
Ah okay. But yeah, all I did was just stash the surveys in the bank for my crafter. Grab the surveys on crafter, and then go pick them up the survey goods. After that, I did my typical farming routes. No exploits. No duplicating. No stashing nothin' with my crafter onto my banker, but alchemy mats and raw materials. That was all. I never once stashed a survey on my banker with my crafter. Not once. Always on characters that I just knock the dailies with for gold. That's it.
So you are saying you typically get 500 mats per survey? Thats the only way the ban kicks in.
... Have you read anything I typed?
Yes and I am trying to politely say I dont believe you.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »This is not something you can do on accident. I dont know where the mod gets that from. This exploit was something you had to purposely do. Im not going into details about it but there is absolutely no possible way someone could have done this on accident. So sorry but not buying that line.
Well, if what Kai Schober said on the german forum is accurate, the script is based of number of survey maps used vs. harvested materials.
I can see mistakes occurring if someone has used 1 survey map and spend the rest of the afternoon farming mats normally. That could lead to a mistake from the scripted toll IMO.
Which is exactly what I believe happened to me. All I did was grab up my surveys from my non-crafters, and go knock them out all in a swift run on my crafter. And now I'm caught-up, and in this situation. Meanwhile I know people who are boasting about how ZO$ didn't catch them. =\
No that's not what happened to you. I'm referring to people farming mats normally, without survey maps. They could end up with 500 mats in their inventory for just 1 map used.
Your case is different. I don't know how or why the script caught you.
Ah okay. But yeah, all I did was just stash the surveys in the bank for my crafter. Grab the surveys on crafter, and then go pick them up the survey goods. After that, I did my typical farming routes. No exploits. No duplicating. No stashing nothin' with my crafter onto my banker, but alchemy mats and raw materials. That was all. I never once stashed a survey on my banker with my crafter. Not once. Always on characters that I just knock the dailies with for gold. That's it.
So you are saying you typically get 500 mats per survey? Thats the only way the ban kicks in.
... Have you read anything I typed?
Yes and I am trying to politely say I dont believe you.
Believe what you want. You forget. I have had numerous interactions and dialogues with you. To you, ZO$ can do no wrong. They are forever innocent and pure. Their work is perfect is unflawed. Yes, yes. You've shown this image on every thread I've encountered you in. And honestly? I wish you were in ZO$ prison with me. You'd be getting the business constantly. We'd steal your sweet rolls every chance we got. >_>
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Yes and I am trying to politely say I dont believe you.
carudocb16_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Yes and I am trying to politely say I dont believe you.
Are you honestly saying you don't believe ZOS could have made a mistake ?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »carudocb16_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Yes and I am trying to politely say I dont believe you.
Are you honestly saying you don't believe ZOS could have made a mistake ?
In this instance no. Its cut and dried. There have been other exploits (guild bank dupe for example) that could possibly be done on accident. Not this one tho.