Nyx2 wrote: »

Stillian wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

Skill involves things such as precise aim, fast reaction time, decision making and tactics. Removing AC or tweaking it better would have no impact on any of these things.

Skill also involves such thing as timing. AC has nothing to do with button smashing. If you can time your weaves (got skill) you get a dps boost.

I'm really not sure what to say to this unwillingness to read.

Nyx2 wrote: »

Really? Beacause I totally didn't call it button mashing just to belittle those efforts...

If this and "you just don't understand AC!!!!" is all this boils down to, why bother making a post? You ignore any arguments that conflict with your bias anyways. How is that supposed to result to anything? If you skip cast times that has nothing to do with just dps. That's called abusing mechanics. Even if that wouldn't be the case and you just do your "normal" weaves, that's still not how the game is intended to work. It looks ridiculous and so is this play style.

So we agree on button mashing, what about other part of post? have you read it, or you want to show your unwillingness and incompetence?
You say, it is not intended and abusing. You are clearly wrong on it, and It is definitely intended. It is one of possibilites devs gave us as part of damage dealing, and they do encourage us to use it. Look at other mechanichs:

Ultimate gain - only while weaving. You gain your ultimate in combat only while you are weaving. +dps. Change to ulti gain system shows that weaving intended, because previously you was gaining ultimate from every damage or heal you do, not just weave. Now weave is strong part of dps because of that aspect

Enchantment - only procs from weave, in case you damage with your class abilities. Again, if you dont weave - you lose enchantemt. If weave was not intended, devs would proc make it proc from any skill

Special things like Maelstrom destruction stuff also show dev's intention to encourage people to AC.

I really like the weaving mechanich because it increase combat dynamics by far and also make damage dealing process different from mashing same buttons over and over like a living macro. The timing makes it more interesting and also make it differ from other games.

Annra wrote: »

I see 2 options:

a) Get rid of it.
b) Include it in the beginners tutorial, so everyone knows how it works.

I play since beta and have no clue how to use animation canceling.

I think you are already doing it without even knowing it. Same happened to me, when I tried to learn animation cancelling only to realize that I have already been doing it.

Oh my god necroed again

I don't understand why you guys think it needs to be removed. AC doesn't mean you can cast 5 to 6 abilities at once like some of you morons are suggesting. All it does is allow you to get a SLIGHT increase in speed. If someone has proof of a guy using 5 abilities in a row, please reply with a link. I think AC adds more skill to the game as it IS hard to master and it DOES make a difference km DPS. This separates those who are willing to put in time to become the best and those who don't, because they cant learn to do it themselves so they cry nerf/remove.

It must be removed.

If the "problem" is you, stamina players (mostly) not being able to spam Critical Charge, Wrecking Blow, Light Attack and Executioner in 2 seconds to kill hundreds of players per hour, then make the cooldowns shorter, make animations play faster and smoothly.

I don't need to see see the choreography of a movement to know I'm healing, or shielding ou casting a spell. I'm not a knight of Athens

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Yes for pity sake get rid of it.

It isn't part of the game mechanic but instead a form of an exploitation to gain more DPS.

Animation canceling is cheating.

This thread is a year old, the last post before yours was 8 months ago. Tapping left mouse button, 2 and block over and over again with a practiced timing isn't cheating.

People who cant do it, want to get rid of it.
Most of the players in eso, are casual "log in to play for fun" players.
I see where this is going.

DM_ESO wrote: »

I always disliked animation cancelling in games. Actions are supposed to have a proper risk/reward ratio. Big actions have big animations that take the proper amount of time. Cancelling animations out lets you achieve the benefit of an action without actually having to commit to it and follow through. It also looks stupid when someone is glitching through various parts of different animations.

If I want to start any action, it should be from a ready state.
If I want to heal, I should finish my cast, or drink my whole potion.
If I want to buff, I should finish my cast, or eat my whole meal.
If I want to do a strong attack I should commit to the wind up, the follow through, and the return to ready position.

It removes a lot of challenge from the game because you don't have to make choices on when to use actions and time them correctly. You receive benefits without paying the full (or any of) their cost. The time during these animations when you are open to attack is what creates the risk / reward.

But most of the skills in the game are advertised as instant cast in their tooltips.

Complaining about AC is so 2015

ZoS just needs to fix problems of animations getting crushed together and make it more smoother. Otherwise it is fine, people that want to learn benefit slightly and people that don't use it can still do all the endgame content just fine.

I think people here mix "exploiting animation canceling" with not being able to cancel certain skills. If I choose NOT to continue casting a spell then it should NOT do its full damage when I have already canceled it with a light or heavy attack or something. Currently: If you want to be competitive you have to exploit this animation canceling to add much more weapon attacks..

Come on already... Animation canceling will NEVER BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME. For varying reasons, the basic of which being survival... Has nothing to do with DPS. Just learn to do it already and get the HELL OUTTA HERE WITH THIS NONESENSE.

Let it stand as is until a complete rebalance/redesign pass happens.

Just removing it from the current game would render the hardest PvE content nigh impassible and make PvP dull AF.

I kind of feel that this question is asking: 1) can you animation cancel 2) can you not. Or are you 1) casual or 2) competitive. It adds an element of skill to what are relatively basic rotations. Play ffxiv as a black mage vs an eso sorc in end game content; the difficulty gap is massive. Keep it!

Yes.