I'm at 0 for over 900... No not in a row and not on same character. Most done on one character was around 500, I haven't tried again after that round.

IamNoobee wrote: »

679 fish filleted for 1 perfect roe my .9% chance to get roe went down to .6%. rng sucks. screw praying to the rng god, cause i personally think praying to anything but would net better results.

I have a theory that involves metaphysics and quantum mechanics. It goes like this. The more you think about the thing you don't want to happen, the more likely it is to occur.

They need to add gold mats for tel var stones or something.

Particularly perfect roe.

I stopped fishing and now I buy it. The RNG BS was pissing me off too much.

KrishakPanettier wrote: »

I haven't gotten a single perfect roe since Thieves Guild update, about 500 to 600 fillets. I was getting about one every 100 on average. I got three in a row once before update. I am still hoping I get perfect roe again soon.

IamNoobee wrote: »

679 fish filleted for 1 perfect roe my .9% chance to get roe went down to .6%. rng sucks. screw praying to the rng god, cause i personally think praying to anything but would net better results.

Thank you. I love how people try and act as if it's beyond zos to nerf it. It benefits them to nerf it. Why? Because then less xp potions are for sale, and more people buy crown xp scrolls.

I'm not trying to act better than anyone else. But I do have two master angler accounts, both finished before Xmas. I have sold hundreds of roe. I have bought hundreds of roe. I have sold thousands of xp potions. I am in 5 of the largest guilds in the game with traders in the best spots. I have checked daily on prices to buy low and make potions to sell for a profit.

When thieves guild came out, they released the cake likely in response to their nerf. Doesn't that make sense?

The price has definitely risen from 7500-10k, to 12-15k. Many guilds have less or none at all. The price of potions have went from 2700-3000 to 3300-3500. If you play this game as much as me (8-10 hours daily, yes I'm a loser) and pay as close attention as I have, you can see that there has DEFINETLY been a reduction in the output of roe.

Again, my sorc took hundreds of potions. From level 1-v16. He spent every second with a potion in the sewers grinding. That's how many I had to just burn from buying nonstop. I sold enough potions so I could use them for free basically myself. Just another point in why/how I know so much about how much is readily available.

Xbox here, so I'm not speaking of pc

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »

KrishakPanettier wrote: »

I haven't gotten a single perfect roe since Thieves Guild update, about 500 to 600 fillets. I was getting about one every 100 on average. I got three in a row once before update. I am still hoping I get perfect roe again soon.

IamNoobee wrote: »

679 fish filleted for 1 perfect roe my .9% chance to get roe went down to .6%. rng sucks. screw praying to the rng god, cause i personally think praying to anything but would net better results.

Thank you. I love how people try and act as if it's beyond zos to nerf it. It benefits them to nerf it. Why? Because then less xp potions are for sale, and more people buy crown xp scrolls.

I'm not trying to act better than anyone else. But I do have two master angler accounts, both finished before Xmas. I have sold hundreds of roe. I have bought hundreds of roe. I have sold thousands of xp potions. I am in 5 of the largest guilds in the game with traders in the best spots. I have checked daily on prices to buy low and make potions to sell for a profit.

When thieves guild came out, they released the cake likely in response to their nerf. Doesn't that make sense?

The price has definitely risen from 7500-10k, to 12-15k. Many guilds have less or none at all. The price of potions have went from 2700-3000 to 3300-3500. If you play this game as much as me (8-10 hours daily, yes I'm a loser) and pay as close attention as I have, you can see that there has DEFINETLY been a reduction in the output of roe.

Again, my sorc took hundreds of potions. From level 1-v16. He spent every second with a potion in the sewers grinding. That's how many I had to just burn from buying nonstop. I sold enough potions so I could use them for free basically myself. Just another point in why/how I know so much about how much is readily available.

Xbox here, so I'm not speaking of pc

With cake week they went up to 7k on ps4 that was in mournhold EP. I was selling them at that price.

The price jumped up after that. They likely implemented the nerf around the same time, so no one would know. Make sense?

Not trying to argue, just point out that from my (vast) experience, the availability has dropped and the price has reflected that.

I have had one in 600 and then 3 in 20.

No nerf. Totally random.

I noticed something, but may be coincidence. I fished up some silverside perch and spadetails (193, and 218 respective). You generally catch two types of fish in each water type. One will be caught more often than the other as stated quantities show. I believe the fish of the lower quantity has a higher drop percentage. I got 6 roe from the 193 silverside perch, and only 2 roe from the spadetails. I tried the same thing with foul water fish, just not in those quantities. Something like 23 slaughtering, and 31 Trodh. Same thing, 2 roe from the slaughterfish, 0 from the Trodh.

Thought I might pop back in and add a little something that's happened in my world recently. Over the past few weeks a guildie has averaged a perfect roe per every 20 fish cleaned. It's astounding and heartbreaking at the same time. Yesterday she asked me to place like 8 on a trader for her, knowing I'm in a few larger trade guilds. She got these 8 roe from 120 fish. RnG is what it is.

One RNG I wrote took (all the numbers in a range) x (a number of sets I wanted to use), put all those into an array and then scrambled them. So for example, I might use 5 sets of the numbers from 1 to 100 for a 500 number array. Then I would just pull the number off the bottom when I needed one, and shrink the array by 1 so that number would not be reused. This assured that all the numbers eventually got used so the good and bad would always balance out over time. The fewer sets I used the more quickly it all balanced out.

With a typical RNG the odds of any one number coming up are always the same. Even if the number 1 has come up 5 times in a row, the odds of it coming up again are exactly the same. We often think collectively (what are the odds of the number 1 coming up 6 times in a row?!?) but random generation does not work that way and does not care what came up last time or the time before that. Failure to understand that has cost a lot of people a lot of money at the gambling table as they believed the result HAD to be in their favor this time, after having lost several times in a row.

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

First of all, stop skinning stacks of fish. Skin them after each fishing hole is complete. Then, when you don't get one, which will be most of the time, it's not disappointing. And when you do get one, it's a pleasant surprise.

Plus, if you're fishing just for the Roe, you're doing it wrong. (No offense intended)

The only reasons to fish are for roe and a break from the countless problems plaguing tamriel. Because fish are utterly worthless. That's why I wish we could sell fillets to vendors for at least 1 gold. I fillet, then destroy the fillets.

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

GivvumBoane wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

First of all, stop skinning stacks of fish. Skin them after each fishing hole is complete. Then, when you don't get one, which will be most of the time, it's not disappointing. And when you do get one, it's a pleasant surprise.

Plus, if you're fishing just for the Roe, you're doing it wrong. (No offense intended)

The only reasons to fish are for roe and a break from the countless problems plaguing tamriel. Because fish are utterly worthless. That's why I wish we could sell fillets to vendors for at least 1 gold. I fillet, then destroy the fillets.

Not true for everyone. I fish cause it's relaxing. My wife asks me to turn on the sound if I'm fishing so she can hear the birds and water and ambience. Then the Roe is just icing. Perhaps you should adjust your expectations, cause these types of complaints always sound a little privilegey.

Like I said, to take a break from the countless problems plaguing tamriel. AKA relaxing

newtinmpls wrote: »

I say you got lucky....

Of course

ContraTempo wrote: »

With a typical RNG the odds of any one number coming up are always the same. Even if the number 1 has come up 5 times in a row, the odds of it coming up again are exactly the same. We often think collectively (what are the odds of the number 1 coming up 6 times in a row?!?) but random generation does not work that way and does not care what came up last time or the time before that. Failure to understand that has cost a lot of people a lot of money at the gambling table as they believed the result HAD to be in their favor this time, after having lost several times in a row.

Interesting. Isn't the random generation the same as rolling dice, which means in this case, we know exactly what are the odds of number 1 coming up the 7th time in a row? Which is 1 out of 6^6, no?

So if I was to claim that the true PR drop rate seems to be set somewhere around 1%, you'd say no way this is true, because "RNG doesn't work that way"?

GivvumBoane wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

GivvumBoane wrote: »

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

First of all, stop skinning stacks of fish. Skin them after each fishing hole is complete. Then, when you don't get one, which will be most of the time, it's not disappointing. And when you do get one, it's a pleasant surprise.

Plus, if you're fishing just for the Roe, you're doing it wrong. (No offense intended)

The only reasons to fish are for roe and a break from the countless problems plaguing tamriel. Because fish are utterly worthless. That's why I wish we could sell fillets to vendors for at least 1 gold. I fillet, then destroy the fillets.

Not true for everyone. I fish cause it's relaxing. My wife asks me to turn on the sound if I'm fishing so she can hear the birds and water and ambience. Then the Roe is just icing. Perhaps you should adjust your expectations, cause these types of complaints always sound a little privilegey.

Like I said, to take a break from the countless problems plaguing tamriel. AKA relaxing

Wrong. Nothing like you said. Although, you can reinterpret it to fit your agenda, which is what you did.

It's to relax, just like the rest of the game. I don't have all these "problems" you do with the game.

Your interpretation of the state of the game is not necessarily the same for everyone else.