MissBizz wrote: »

Bit of feedback.

When I loot items in game it's really nice I can tell what goes to the crafting bag - awesome. Although, I want to know how many I looted - NOT how many are in my bag now.

Today I thought I looted 75 rubedite ore. Apparently not, I only looted some (no idea how many) and after had 75 total in my bag. It's a good feeling when you see that CP passive proc and you get more - but now I won't know. I'm not about to start memorizing how much of everything I have in my bag haha.

I don't think that is what is happening. I noticed when looking for the new alchemy mats that the first I picked up of each kind it would display a qty of 42, but subsequent drops would display as normal quantities of 1-3 when picked up.

Were you able to find the Craft Bag? Yes - easily

Did you understand when items you picked up went into the Craft Bag? Yes, all Crafting Mats and Bait as far as I can tell.

Did you understand what items go into the Craft Bag, and which ones do not? Same as above.

Did you understand how to pull items out of the Craft Bag to trade or mail them? I haven't tried it, but I think I understand how to do it.

Do you understand how crafting is integrated into the Craft Bag? Yes

Did you notice any other players using their Craft Bags? (Specifically, did you notice the new Craft Bag model?) Nope, I've been too much off the beaten path to see many players.

Were there any items that you feel should have been included in the Craft Bag? Not that I have found thus far.

How much backpack and bank space did you free up when your items moved into your Craft Bag? 407 storage spots were freed up by the Craft Bag (It's allot more if you count the spare account I bought just for storage!).

Do you have any other general feedback? Best Quality of Life improvement since the game came out and it's not even close.

Sparky617 wrote: »

I've searched through all of my copied characters and template characters. I can't find ANY of my crafting mats. Even after opening the crafting coffers on a template character I am having a hard time finding Rubitite, Ancestor's Silk, and Sanded Ruby Ash.... Maybe i'm just missing it...

There is a bug with them and templates. So thats probably it. Next week they will wipe and copy EU then the following week cope NA again. So probably have to wait till next time.

Suddenly after emptying all of the crafing coffers I have 2k of everything.... but the CP160 mats were not there to cherry pick from the coffers...I had to just take everything.

Takuto wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Bit of feedback.

When I loot items in game it's really nice I can tell what goes to the crafting bag - awesome. Although, I want to know how many I looted - NOT how many are in my bag now.

Today I thought I looted 75 rubedite ore. Apparently not, I only looted some (no idea how many) and after had 75 total in my bag. It's a good feeling when you see that CP passive proc and you get more - but now I won't know. I'm not about to start memorizing how much of everything I have in my bag haha.

I don't think that is what is happening. I noticed when looking for the new alchemy mats that the first I picked up of each kind it would display a qty of 42, but subsequent drops would display as normal quantities of 1-3 when picked up.

@Takuto Thank you very much! After I noticed it the first time I paid attention for awhile, but I do believe I kept picking up different mats - which would result in the experience you just explained.

What does it happen when you stop to be an ESO+ member?
Do the crafting materials return to bank or vanish?
Do you need to reactivate ESO+ membership to recover them?

Since it can happen that a player doesn't subscribe for the whole year, I would avoid to place items in crafting bags with the risk to lose them or have them locked.

I would like to get an ESO+ subscription to test it on PTS.
ESO+ for everyone on PTS isn't possible ?..

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Thank You

Except Ayantir need this to test addons.

I'd like to have the possibility to test without the bag, with the bag and with an expired bag too. Any item or checkbox to help us test our addons, with the bag, without the bag or with an expired bag at anytime on pts?

thanks

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Epona222 wrote: »

Helluin wrote: »

What does it happen when you stop to be an ESO+ member?
Do the crafting materials return to bank or vanish?
Do you need to reactivate ESO+ membership to recover them?

Since it can happen that a player doesn't subscribe for the whole year, I would avoid to place items in crafting bags with the risk to lose them or have them locked.

If your subscription lapses, all your mats that you have at that point in your crafting bag will stay in your crafting bag. While you are not subbing you can withdraw stuff, but can't add anything to your craft bag, new mats that you collect will go into your inventory. When/if you start subbing again it will behave as normal with stuff going in as well as out.

Thanks for the explanation.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I understand that making the craft bag ESO+ only is a huge push for more subscribers and it will probably work quite well, but I and many others would absolutely buy the craft bag off the crown store for 5000 crowns.

5000 crowns for this is way way way too cheap. Thats why I think they put it as an ESO+ perk because if it was on the store for 150,000 crowns people would freak right out.

5k is more than appropriate. That's $40
It's literally the cost of the whole game.

GTech_1 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I understand that making the craft bag ESO+ only is a huge push for more subscribers and it will probably work quite well, but I and many others would absolutely buy the craft bag off the crown store for 5000 crowns.

5000 crowns for this is way way way too cheap. Thats why I think they put it as an ESO+ perk because if it was on the store for 150,000 crowns people would freak right out.

5k is more than appropriate. That's $40
It's literally the cost of the whole game.

It's also less than the cost of 3 months sub. This is an ESO plus benefit.
Sub up, and it can be yours. Or don't sub, and carry on just as you have been.

Folks the bag is not $15/month.

$15/month is:
-access to all DLC (10k in crowns)
-exp bonus
-gold bonus
-research bonus
-1500 crowns
-and a crafting bag.

In real cash, you all are maybe paying $1 a month for this bag. I'm not sure why everyone has this $15 concept.
It's one piece of an entire bundle.

5k in crowns is way more than what you're paying
Some
Ppl actually paid for the DLC, have subbed and want to buy the bag feature.
Please stop being selfish and let others enjoy the game too if ZOS will offer it

The bag is a sub benefit.
Arguing that a one time fee of $40 is more valuable to ZOS than a continual sub is untenable, at best.

Continual subs keep the lights on, and keep people employed.
They also increase the quality of life for all of the ZOS employees.
As a "thank you", in return, they have increased our quality of life.

Sounds pretty fair to me. Sub up. You'll love the bag.

Well, that's an interesting position.
So it sounds like, even according to your own arguement, that the better deal is to sub up.
Since this is, clearly, now settled, I'll happily congratulate you on your new bag.

Wow just wow at the crafting bags!! I am now officially in scared mode of this being nerfed somehow.

I started at launch and probably only lasted a few months. My main two gripes were inventory management and horse training. I just came back about a month and half ago and 1 huge grip has been eliminated.

Great job, now as an plus member, one other I would love is to be able to queue rider training for 7 days so during the week when I only have say 30-45 minutes to play, I can just log on once and actually play a particular toon instead of logging in with each doing rider training for each.

Were you able to find the Craft Bag? Yes.

Did you understand when items you picked up went into the Craft Bag? Didn't pay attention, all I know is I had so so in my inventory and I deconed and now my inventory has less items as expected.

Did you understand what items go into the Craft Bag, and which ones do not? Pretty much and it's nice the bait went in there as well.

Did you understand how to pull items out of the Craft Bag to trade or mail them? Yep, although I think it could be better. Just not sure how. But pretty much it was logical. Like others have said it doesn't show up in other screens like the store or bank, but then I'm not even sure if that would be necessary when viewing your bank??? For some reason I felt like I wanted to see it, but then I really couldn't think of a justification. Probably just need to get used to the new workflow.

Do you understand how crafting is integrated into the Craft Bag? Yep.

Did you notice any other players using their Craft Bags? (Specifically, did you notice the new Craft Bag model?) Didn't see anybody on two different toons

Were there any items that you feel should have been included in the Craft Bag? Nope

How much backpack and bank space did you free up when your items moved into your Craft Bag? I think I was 230/240 or so and after 29/240....I almost cried was so happy. I'm not even mad I spent real cash upgrading my bank even when I knew this was coming.

Do you have any other general feedback? This is seriously going to impact my alts with hireling. I see a future where I have less resources because I just won't bother logging in with other toons I don't intend on actively playing since I don't have to bother with the whole inventory management game. I'm getting out of that game.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

GTech_1 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I understand that making the craft bag ESO+ only is a huge push for more subscribers and it will probably work quite well, but I and many others would absolutely buy the craft bag off the crown store for 5000 crowns.

5000 crowns for this is way way way too cheap. Thats why I think they put it as an ESO+ perk because if it was on the store for 150,000 crowns people would freak right out.

5k is more than appropriate. That's $40
It's literally the cost of the whole game.

It's also less than the cost of 3 months sub. This is an ESO plus benefit.
Sub up, and it can be yours. Or don't sub, and carry on just as you have been.

Folks the bag is not $15/month.

$15/month is:
-access to all DLC (10k in crowns)
-exp bonus
-gold bonus
-research bonus
-1500 crowns
-and a crafting bag.

In real cash, you all are maybe paying $1 a month for this bag. I'm not sure why everyone has this $15 concept.
It's one piece of an entire bundle.

5k in crowns is way more than what you're paying
Some
Ppl actually paid for the DLC, have subbed and want to buy the bag feature.
Please stop being selfish and let others enjoy the game too if ZOS will offer it

Not that simple I think. Cos I used to subscribe and I dropped it a while back cos I realised I could save tons of $$. At least 50%.

For Sub: 1500 x 12 crowns per year bought = 18 000 crowns. + we get 10% bonus to gold and exp, + faster research.. Pretty meh benefits.. DLC for free is basically a ransom for our guarenteed money every month. The moment u stop giving ZOS money bye bye DLC. Its the same as everyone else who buys it with crowns... Most subscribers do just get the DLCs for the crowns cos what else are you going to do with 18 000 crowns a year? buy every costume and mount??

For non sub: 3000 per dlc x 4 DLCs maybe a year = 12 000 crowns

So a subscriber pays on average 50% more than a non-sub. In exchange we get some a pathetic 10% bonus to a couple of things. DLCs we only get if we keep giving ZOS $$. If not its gone as well.

Over the past year I have saved on average about 70-100 bucks by dropping sub. Just get a 5k crown pack whenever a DLC comes out during sale (which makes these crowns even cheaper) + will have crowns left over to get costume/mount I really want.

Its smarter, and WAAAAAY cheaper to just get crown pack during sales to buy DLCS and stuff you want rather than to subscribe. Essentially that's why ZOS is making crafting bags exclusive to ESO+. I have recently re-subscribed for this perk. If this goes onto store... Bye bye Sub once again.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

GTech_1 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I understand that making the craft bag ESO+ only is a huge push for more subscribers and it will probably work quite well, but I and many others would absolutely buy the craft bag off the crown store for 5000 crowns.

5000 crowns for this is way way way too cheap. Thats why I think they put it as an ESO+ perk because if it was on the store for 150,000 crowns people would freak right out.

5k is more than appropriate. That's $40
It's literally the cost of the whole game.

It's also less than the cost of 3 months sub. This is an ESO plus benefit.
Sub up, and it can be yours. Or don't sub, and carry on just as you have been.

Folks the bag is not $15/month.

$15/month is:
-access to all DLC (10k in crowns)
-exp bonus
-gold bonus
-research bonus
-1500 crowns
-and a crafting bag.

In real cash, you all are maybe paying $1 a month for this bag. I'm not sure why everyone has this $15 concept.
It's one piece of an entire bundle.

5k in crowns is way more than what you're paying

But 5k is a one-off payment, clearly they want to get more people subbing so that they can have a certain level of ongoing revenue from subscribtions, and need a good incentive for people to do sub. This is the best way that I can think of (that isn't P2W) of getting people to take out a $15/£7 a month sub on an ongoing basis.

The bag is literally $1/month at most $2

Let's make sure you all understand what ESO plus is offering you in actual cash

DLC is at DB release $100 in crowns approx
Exp for 30 days non-stop is (if u play non-stop 8 hours a day on one character only in exp scrolls) - $65
-other benefits have value but it'll stop there
-then this crafting bag which lets say is 250 bank slots (it's infinite but I'm just showing cash value) - $0 cause you can make mules with 60 free slots each but let's say $40 for convenience cause that isn't in a bank like access. (Using $40 for bank upgrade costs in crowns)
-1500 crowns per month is $15

You're paying $15/month for a $1,100 value over a year. You won't even pay for that in 12 months time and we have at least another DLC but you're trying to tell
me that ESO plus sub gives ZOS more money.

I really and concerned about everyone's concept of understanding as the exp alone and DLC far exceed your $15/month.
You're paying not even $200/year and want to tell others who don't sub that they don't deserve a crafting bag cause their money isn't worth your sub.

HOW ARE USING math. You're getting a $900 deal actually more of you calculate infinite bank crown upgrades but you're not paying for those. It's free for you or maybe $1
Others can pay $40 or less for a bag when they have to buy everything else you get for $15.

Cmon

When I read this the only thing I can relate this to is;


Do you want to buy 100 candy bars for $100 bucks or do you want 2 bars for 4 bucks. Yeah option one is cheaper cos I get a candy bar for $1 each but I dont frigging need 100 candy bars. The same way I dont need 18000 crowns a year and I don't need that 10% EXP especially with CP-capped and my 8 slots filled with v16 toons.

Also;
"You're paying not even $200/year and want to tell others who don't sub that they don't deserve a crafting bag cause their money isn't worth your sub.

HOW ARE USING math. You're getting a $900 deal actually more of you calculate infinite bank crown upgrades but you're not paying for those. It's free for you or maybe $1
Others can pay $40 or less for a bag when they have to buy everything else you get for $15."

If you think its SUCH great value why dont you get a sub?