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Any chance the poisons introduced with DB will improve spell damage?

  • Averya_Teira
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    Or will only weapon damage users benefit?

    It's poison... It doesn't buff, it debuffs...
  • Flak
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    I'm aware how of how old this thread is but I felt the need to mention it with the changes coming to enchants with DB and poisoning.
    Glyphs have taken a massive buff to hold up with the new poisons.
    Weapon Damage Enchants on weapons now give 300+ afaik which really makes it comparable to 8% Damage from poisons in some builds.
    Yet there is no such glyph for Magicka Users. Not even a counterpart to the reduce armor glyph.
    I know Stamina should get a buff and I think that's much needed, but for Magicka Users (especially DK as myself) there is nothing to hold up against the poisons which I think cannot be intended.

    [minor edit in reference to necro]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 28, 2016 3:50PM

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  • Browiseth
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    Because it's an enchantment for a weapon?
    srsly though, let's have a realtalk for a moment though ESO. Not everything has to be completely equal between playstyles, there can be unique benefits for playing a certain way, in this case a weapon damage buff from swinging your weapon for stamina users to benefit from
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  • Valrien
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    Because it's an enchantment for a weapon?
    srsly though, let's have a realtalk for a moment though ESO. Not everything has to be completely equal between playstyles, there can be unique benefits for playing a certain way, in this case a weapon damage buff from swinging your weapon for stamina users to benefit from

    Should one not get a spell damage bonus from casting spells from their staff?
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  • Browiseth
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Browiseth wrote: »
    Because it's an enchantment for a weapon?
    srsly though, let's have a realtalk for a moment though ESO. Not everything has to be completely equal between playstyles, there can be unique benefits for playing a certain way, in this case a weapon damage buff from swinging your weapon for stamina users to benefit from

    Should one not get a spell damage bonus from casting spells from their staff?

    I dunno if you read the rest of my last post there, cus it was linked a bit to what I think you're responding to. anyways, I'll clarify it

    I don't really care (too much...) if a spell damage buff for weapons were to come out. The issue is the mentality of the player wanting it to be added and reason for putting the option in. The player says; "There's a build/playstyle with a benefit my build doesn't have. I want it as well because that isn't fair!"
    the dev's mentality is; "This is an easy thing to do, let's appease the player without really thinking super much about it"

    and then we're one step closer to every build being the same, except one uses the green bar and the other focuses on the blue
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    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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  • Flak
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    Because it's an enchantment for a weapon?
    srsly though, let's have a realtalk for a moment though ESO. Not everything has to be completely equal between playstyles, there can be unique benefits for playing a certain way, in this case a weapon damage buff from swinging your weapon for stamina users to benefit from

    Ofc not, I also favor variety. But how is it with staves, u don't really smack people with it.
    This is still from the old times where Staff Skills would scale from Weapon Damage, so now I don't see any reason for it.
    Turning your argument around you could also ask why Stamina Users could use enchants at all since it's created by magic. But I think in times of Stamina-LightningForm this can't rly be separated anymore.

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  • elium85
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    Just so you know, on PTS right now, the weapon damage glyph now provides spell damage too.
  • Emma_Overload
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    I don't know why people are talking about Dual Wield and Sorcerers, because this issue has nothing to do with either.

    ANYBODY who uses a Resto or Destro staff would benefit from spell power enchants on their weapons!

    Edited by Emma_Overload on April 28, 2016 2:54PM
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  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Because stamina has raw power and magic has unmatchable penetration.
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  • Valrien
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    Because stamina has raw power and magic has unmatchable penetration.

    actually penetration on stam builds is equal if not better than magicka builds
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  • waterfairy
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    How much Spell Damage do you absolutely need?

    You have 3x Spell Damage Jewelry Enchants, Entropy, Might of the Guild, Dual-Wield/2H, Sorcerer Passive, Molag Kena proc, Apprentice Stone w/ Divines on armor pieces -- 5x MK / Magnus w/ 2x Molag Kena & 2 Torug's Pact Swords or 4x MK / Magnus, 1x Torug's Pact Armor, 2x Molag Kena, 1x Torug's Pact Staff.

    How much more do you need?!?!?!?!

    Those of us who don't have this setup need more spell damage.
  • Oompuh
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    elium85 wrote: »
    Just so you know, on PTS right now, the weapon damage glyph now provides spell damage too.
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  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Because stamina has raw power and magic has unmatchable penetration.

    actually penetration on stam builds is equal if not better than magicka builds

    Light armor and Desto staff have penetration bonuses and Nirn has much higher penetration then sharpened.
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  • ZOS_CoriJ
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    This discussion was added from comments from: Why aren't there any "increase spell damage" enchantments for weapons?. You're welcome to reference old threads but please be sure not to necro them. This helps to avoid confusion with outdated information.
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 28, 2016 3:52PM
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