Audigy wrote: »

I will honestly never understand why people want to run the same content again and again, only for a new achievement or higher item level. What is the point of it, why not ask for a new zone instead?

Survival mode yes, but anything else has no place in an MMO. Let the difficulty grow by new zones, dungeons or quests, but not by repeating the same dungeon 5 times in a row.

It's my first MMO so I can't speak for other games. But to me the point is perfecting myself, learning the mechanics better, improving my result; learning to coordinate with my team or with a different team(since different people do things differently even in the same environment). Can I complete it? Can I complete it faster? Can I complete it without dying? Can I complete it with just 2 people instead of 4? Can I complete it naked? It can be interesting, there're still some things mechanics-wise that I learn on like my 50th run lol, like some attacks actually being interruptable(albeit not that easily) and whatnot.
Doesn't have to be your cup of cake but I do like it ...aside from the part where there's no challenge left to master now of course

Far as the second half of your message, that'd actually be pretty cool but unfortunately all ESO zones, quests and most(...if not all, especially with DB) dungeons are ridiculously easy. You can also solo like all non vet and most vet dungeons. ZOS is trying to cater to everyone and in the end failing miserably at that imo, since the only way literally everyone will be able to complete content is by nerfing it to being possible with 0 armor and skills and with closed eyes, which they have all but done by now.

Pls add a challenge. I don't mind about daily rewards, but maybe increase droprates in nightmare-mode and only include good traits. So you don't have to worry about your trait.
So you can:
- farm normal version a lot
- farm vet version for increased droprates but maybe crappy traits
- farm nightmare mode for best droprates and good traits

Maybe include a leaderboard for nightmare-mode

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

The problem with two difficulties is very apparent in VMOL.

On normal mode, it's too easy. The mob damage and health is very low. Groups can blow through it without actually learning the mechanics or even doing the mechanics properly. THIS IS BAD. A normal version is supposed to help prepare you for the vet version if you are not strong enough to do that yet. You are supposed to learn the mechanics in normal, grow your character, and then one day be strong enough to tackle vet. However, due to the low, low difficulty, normal Maw does not prepare you for vet at all. I have run through normal lots of times, and many people still don't understand the basic, basic mechanics behind some of the boss fights. But you can still blow through the dungeon without learning these. And I repeat, this is bad.

Haven't played MoL yet, but this is a problem with MSA as well. Normal is for most stages so easy that you can ignore most mechanics, which will not prepare you for Veteran. That's not a good implementation.

With the removal of vet ranks I decided to reroll one of my vr16s.
I went to nMA right away and beat it with heavy attacks and funnel health. o.O 0 deaths as well.
So I agree that normal modes dont do their job at preparing players to vet content.
There should be more gradient in difficulty, so everyone will have some kind of challenge (on no challenge if they prefer that).

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

As over 100 people have voted in less than 24 hours I am sure a lot of people here would appreciate some feedback from our community managers, I think its safe to assume most or all people here regardless of how they voted are not voting just for fun amongst ourselves but want Zenimax to hear us, any response would be greatly appreciated so we know that the people that need to look at these kind of things, take a look at this.


@ZOS_Finn
@ZOS_RichLambert

Hey guys on your PAX community Q & A you say you make dungeon difficulty decisions based off data, well here you go. I understand this is a small pool of the community as a whole, but they are actual opinions not number of how many people pick up or abandon quests.