Official Feedback Thread for DB Itemization & Item Sets

ZOS_GinaBruno · April 2016

This is the official feedback thread for Itemization & Item Sets. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:

We made new item sets available in Imperial City.
- Do you like what’s currently available/offered?
- Do you plan on using them?
The Cyrodiil vendor now offers Impenetrable items for AP. Tell us: how does this make you feel?
Do you find the updated item sets from Sanctum Ophidia useful?
If you were able to acquire any of the new item sets from Dark Brotherhood, what are your thoughts on those?
Do you have any feedback on the new Runebox available from the Tel Var Stone vendor in Imperial City?
Did you understand how to acquire the Abah’s Watch and Thieves Guild motifs?
- If you were able to obtain either of these, what are your thoughts on the drop rate?
Do you have any other general feedback?

andy_s · April 2016

Infallible Aether and The Vicious Ophidian sets are messed on template characters:

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Hope you will fix it SOON

The Infallible Aether looks very powerful, basically a 8% increased damage for every one around.

GreenSoup2HoT · April 2016

Is there anyway we can get a list of the set's with their set bonuses so console players like myself can give feedback on them? I do not have access to pts. @ZOS_GinaBruno

wrathofrraath · April 2016

My question is @ZOS_GinaBruno if vet ranks are gone and say I scale vCoA at max level/cp cap will the item sets of that dungeon such as Sunderflame, Burning Spellweave, and Embershield finally drop at level 50, cp 160 ?

Reorx_Holybeard · April 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Is there anyway we can get a list of the set's with their set bonuses so console players like myself can give feedback on them? I do not have access to pts. @ZOS_GinaBruno

You can find a quick list of the new sets here. Note that the stats are for CP160 Gold items.

AzraelKrieg · April 2016

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Is there anyway we can get a list of the set's with their set bonuses so console players like myself can give feedback on them? I do not have access to pts. @ZOS_GinaBruno

You can find a quick list of the new sets here. Note that the stats are for CP160 Gold items.

Nice to see Pelinal comes in all three armour weights.

Emma_Overload · April 2016

Are the old PvP sets like Light of Cyrodiil gone forever? Here is a screenshot of the Elite Gear Vendor on the PTS:

Bowser · April 2016

Crafted - Pelinal's Aptitude Set
2) Adds Max Health
3) Adds Stamina Recovery
4) Adds Magicka Recovery
5) Your Weapon Damage and Spell Damage both become the highest of the two values.

AWESOME!

Refuse2GrowUp · April 2016

andy.s wrote: »

Infallible Aether and The Vicious Ophidian sets are messed on template characters:

Hope you will fix it SOON The Infallible Aether looks very powerful, basically a 8% increased damage for every one around.

Are the names and item weights (light armor/med armor) reversed? Pretty sure I remember the set bonuses being the other way around, and, as pictured, it makes no sense as the med armor set buffs spell dmg/crit and the light armor set buffs wpn dmg/crit and reduces the cost of stam abilities.

Please tell me this is a glitch.

CP5 · April 2016

I just looked at that list.. uh.. ok. Some sets look interesting, but i'm betting they will likely be either abused into very irritating builds or be more for show.

The-Baconator · April 2016

Imperial Physique

(2 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
(5 items) While you are in Imperial City, you tap into the power of the Tel Var Stones you are carrying, increasing your Health, Magicka and Stamina by 1032. While you have a 4x Tel Var Stone multiplier this effect is increased by 600%

Can't wait to run around with emp in IC with this set. 7\7 impen on a magicka sorc with +80k max magicka almost 50k max health and +30k max stam with VD.

exiledtyrant · April 2016

A lot of the sets offer new and interesting mechanics again. I think the real winner this time around is Pelinal's Aptitude however. Nothing seems to have made a push for the return of hybridization like this set. The problem I have always had with hybrid builds so far has been the utility and the damage mix but the numbers fall off on one side or the other. Now we have a set that should be able to produce a static 3-4k weapon damage and spell power depending on the set you choose. The only choice then is which resource will use cheap cost or duration skills and what resource will use spammable skills. I am thrilled to test out some combos with this set.

It would be nice if the hybrid glyph wasn't gated behind IC content however. I didn't enjoy IC content and can't see myself ever playing it. All that leaves is an overpriced rune for a set of niche builds. That is just a personal wish however, as I can get fairly close to the stat balance using different glyph and jewelry assortments anyway.

CP5 · April 2016

exiledtyrant wrote: »

A lot of the sets offer new and interesting mechanics again. I think the real winner this time around is Pelinal's Aptitude however. Nothing seems to have made a push for the return of hybridization like this set. The problem I have always had with hybrid builds so far has been the utility and the damage mix but the number fall off on one side or the other. Now we have a set that should be able to produce a static 3-4k weapon damage and spell power depending on the set you choose. The only choice then is which resource will use cheap cost or duration skills and what resource will use spammable skills. I am thrilled to test out some combos with this set.

It would be nice if the hybrid glyph wasn't gated behind IC content however. I didn't enjoy IC content and can't see myself ever playing it. All that leaves is an overpriced rune for a set of niche builds. That is just a personal wish however, as I can get fairly close to the stat balance using different glyph and jewelry assortments anyway.aw

My problem is zos is supporting hybrid builds not by making an environment where they can work, but instead by making sets and glyphs that become 'mandatory' to make effective hybrid builds. This just cuts on build diversity and gates access to these kinds of builds, and then they throw in sets that buff pure builds more and hybrid builds look worse when compared.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · April 2016

Glad to see the Dreugh king slayer set returning as V16 in Sanctum. This was one of my favorite sets!

However, this set initially also dropped with a pendant and sword (v14 in sanctum).

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Can you confirm that these two items are returning as well. The character, excitement and versatility of this set would be greatly diminished if those two items were left out of the loot tables. Without these items, it quickly changes from a set I am excited to acquire, to a another set I would regrettably pass up due to lack of versatility.

also, the change to the 5pc bonus kinda steals some of this set's unique charm and thunder. Major Brutality is an easy buff to get. Everyone already runs this buff. This set used to give weapon damage and speed that STACKED with the other buffs. It's only for 10 seconds and its only if you get a killing blow. Not too OP. Do you think you could convince the itemization team to leave it as it was?

GreenSoup2HoT · April 2016

Does anyone know if Viper's Sting, one of the revamped sets comes in weapons or jewelry???

@Reorx_Holybeard Do you have any information on set's like ive listed above?... or any other revamped set's? Thanks for info

appreciate it.

Praeficere · April 2016

Haven't had a chance to properly test the new sets yet, however I will say this:

(2 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Flanking Strategist Attacks from behind an enemy gain an additional 345 Weapon Damage.

Why would someone use this over Hunding's Rage which provides a flat 299 weapon damage always? I know it's a fun looted set, but it would be great if it was comparable to some basic crafted sets. Gaining 45 damage while attacking from behind, but losing 300 elsewhere... not a good trade off.

One suggestion is to make its 5 piece 2 parts. It could give a lower amount of weapon damage always, while providing higher on attacks from behind.

Oh and it's in that new fabulous Imperial style... need more of the new sets in that...

Ghost-Shot · April 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Does anyone know if Viper's Sting, one of the revamped sets comes in weapons or jewelry???

@Reorx_Holybeard Do you have any information on set's like ive listed above?... or any other revamped set's? Thanks for info appreciate it.

At least for the v14 stuff it dropped with a necklace and dagger I believe, so I imagine it still does.

glavius · April 2016

Dreugh King Slayer major brutality stacks with major brutality from other sources. I assume thats a bug.

Reorx_Holybeard · April 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Does anyone know if Viper's Sting, one of the revamped sets comes in weapons or jewelry???

@Reorx_Holybeard Do you have any information on set's like ive listed above?... or any other revamped set's? Thanks for info appreciate it.

So from the mined item's there appears to be jewelry for that set (look here). However, those are all mined items so there is no guarantee that you will actually be able to get any particular item or level/quality combination in the game.

Xael · April 2016

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Are the old PvP sets like Light of Cyrodiil gone forever? Here is a screenshot of the Elite Gear Vendor on the PTS:

I too wondered about this.
I recently spent around 20mill AP on bags in hopes of seeing Sergeants but the only blue set pieces that spawned from the bags were TG stuff.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Will Dreugh King set have the Neck and Sword returning as v16 equiv? The loot bags only had the armor pieces, this set has a neck and Greatsword missing. Please confirm whether or not it is gone or returning scaled up. I have plans for this set and I would like to know whether they are in vain or not.

@ZOS_GinaBruno a confirmation would be nice. If you don't know the answer can you tell us that and then look to someone who might? As oppose to flat out ignoring this until it goes live? I mean this is the typical pattern I have seen since IC PTS.

GreenSoup2HoT · April 2016

Praeficere wrote: »

Haven't had a chance to properly test the new sets yet, however I will say this:

(2 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Flanking Strategist Attacks from behind an enemy gain an additional 345 Weapon Damage.

Why would someone use this over Hunding's Rage which provides a flat 299 weapon damage always? I know it's a fun looted set, but it would be great if it was comparable to some basic crafted sets. Gaining 45 damage while attacking from behind, but losing 300 elsewhere... not a good trade off.

One suggestion is to make its 5 piece 2 parts. It could give a lower amount of weapon damage always, while providing higher on attacks from behind.

Oh and it's in that new fabulous Imperial style... need more of the new sets in that...

That set has jewelry. So you could wear this with hunding. It also has an additional set bonus with weapon damage. Which makes the total 474.

Elevenstorm · April 2016

The Thew's of the Harbinger 5 set seems to be too low. With 25k Health that calculates out to only 1k (4%). Would like to see this higher maybe around 10% to be effective for a 5 set.

wharf · April 2016

is ravager's v16 now?

olsborg · April 2016

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Are the old PvP sets like Light of Cyrodiil gone forever? Here is a screenshot of the Elite Gear Vendor on the PTS:

I was wondering the same, where is the god old cyrodiils light and morag tong?

olsborg · April 2016

Im trying again, can you please take a look at Lekis Focus set, the 5th bonus is more negative then positive since it also reduces your selfheal on vigor wich is your bread and butter heal, no players right in their mind can live with a 25% reduction in selfhealing on main heal ability.

Youre already trading your own aoe dmg for less aoe dmg taken, that is a 1:1 tradeoff for a 5set, why add another negative to it, sets are supposed to be a positive addition to your build, not negative, thanks for reading.

SanTii.92 · April 2016

Praeficere wrote: »

Haven't had a chance to properly test the new sets yet, however I will say this:

(2 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Flanking Strategist Attacks from behind an enemy gain an additional 345 Weapon Damage.

Why would someone use this over Hunding's Rage which provides a flat 299 weapon damage always? I know it's a fun looted set, but it would be great if it was comparable to some basic crafted sets. Gaining 45 damage while attacking from behind, but losing 300 elsewhere... not a good trade off.

One suggestion is to make its 5 piece 2 parts. It could give a lower amount of weapon damage always, while providing higher on attacks from behind.

Oh and it's in that new fabulous Imperial style... need more of the new sets in that...

Oh, this please. The sets looks great, a ton of fun, but the actual benefit is too marginal.

@GreenSoup2HoT What you want to do is replace Hunding's because the other choices are much stronger, Alkosh, Agility, Malestrom weaps, Monster sets.

potirondb16_ESO · April 2016

Hi guys, a lot of good thing have been done with the new traits, but I did realise Something !

Maestrom Weapon won't cut it anymore !!! Yup, I don't know if you guys notice but some specific enchant can do up to 6k when they proc (actually only one, other do around 3k) I just don't see any maestrom weapon cut it now ! You guys might want to take a look at it see if I'm right.

acw37162 · April 2016

Bowser wrote: »

Crafted - Pelinal's Aptitude Set
2) Adds Max Health
3) Adds Stamina Recovery
4) Adds Magicka Recovery
5) Your Weapon Damage and Spell Damage both become the highest of the two values.

AWESOME!

This set is nice but the adjusted damage and tooltip need to reflect weapon dmage and max stamina or spell damage and max magica, IMO.

Even with 3800 weapon damage buffed and 38 K max stamina overload is a paulty 12 - 14 which isn't terrible but isn't good either.

acw37162 · April 2016

Praeficere wrote: »

Haven't had a chance to properly test the new sets yet, however I will say this:

(2 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Flanking Strategist Attacks from behind an enemy gain an additional 345 Weapon Damage.

Why would someone use this over Hunding's Rage which provides a flat 299 weapon damage always? I know it's a fun looted set, but it would be great if it was comparable to some basic crafted sets. Gaining 45 damage while attacking from behind, but losing 300 elsewhere... not a good trade off.

One suggestion is to make its 5 piece 2 parts. It could give a lower amount of weapon damage always, while providing higher on attacks from behind.

Oh and it's in that new fabulous Imperial style... need more of the new sets in that...

Well if your going with all crafted setup, pvp gank build or just a pvp DPS.

5 Stratigist (3 body, 2 weapon)
5 Clever Alchamist (4 body, 1 Weapon)

Position yourself behind your target take a potion weapon swap and gank or hit above mob from behind.

If your min maxing and working to stay behind a target your trading a flat 300 for 345 plus alchemists while your actually in combat.

If you ran dual wield and sword and board your could even work 1 Kena into the setup for another 100 plus WD.

This is just one setup off the top of my head there will be other better ones found by people smarter then me.

acw37162 · April 2016

potirondb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi guys, a lot of good thing have been done with the new traits, but I did realise Something !

Maestrom Weapon won't cut it anymore !!! Yup, I don't know if you guys notice but some specific enchant can do up to 6k when they proc (actually only one, other do around 3k) I just don't see any maestrom weapon cut it now ! You guys might want to take a look at it see if I'm right.

I'm pretty sure the disease tooltip is wrong.

staracino_ESO · April 2016

The imperial physique seems interesting, but I think it should have scaling grades based on multipliers, as opposed to all or nothing. 2x stones = 200%, 3x stones = 400%, 4x stones = 600%. This way we can choose what to set our power level at while playing in IC, and we can recieve dynamic upgrades to our stats as we kill other players who are either farming stones or trying to use this set themselves.