I tried it, It does not do enough damage to justify a wind up single target dps skill like snipe or uppercut. and has no real utility. I find pierce armor to be better single target dps and less clunky, though if you don't want a taunt you can always go with the slash as it provides similar damage and far more utility.

it does not really have a place anymore, I mean I like it better then it was, but I still would not use it over other skills. it just needs to do a bit more, either damage or utility, but more.

ZoS has continually done this. The same thing is with Javelin.

They buffed the damage to a CC ability, that is only used for CC. It doesn't really make sense.

What honestly was the point of increasing the damage of the skill and removing the CC? The whole point anyone used the skill was for the CC. No one has or is going to use the skill as a DPS skill. Anyone who even used the skill never used the Power Slam morph, which already increased the damage.

Seriously, the skill was fine beforehand after the CC fix. Why "try" and fix something that isn't broken? Revert the change.

the skill was perfectly fine? lol

Tankqull wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

the skill was perfectly fine? lol

from its idea yes.
the problem was the horribly buggy implementation done by ZOS

yeah from its idea cyrodrill also works pefect with no lag.

Docmandu wrote: »

Yoyuyi999 wrote: »

Why remove this CC? It's fixed now.

I wouldn't call it "fixed" on TG.. it has horrible CC break lag.. then again, so does fear... but instead of fixing that issue, they just change the skill.. is anyone still surprised by this?

I tested it in every way possible, I can assure you it isn't bugged. And in latency every CC has some messed up thing going on.

I will say though, the animation for it DOES make it seem clunky but that's really it.

Yoyuyi999 wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

the skill was perfectly fine? lol

from its idea yes.
the problem was the horribly buggy implementation done by ZOS

yeah from its idea cyrodrill also works pefect with no lag.

The thing is, the CC DID get fixed in the Thieves Guild patch. Go in Live right now and test it. The CC is 100% now fixed and you can instantly break it.

They fix one bug with reverb, but is still doing odd things. Get stun with shield charge and get stun with reverb bash, then tell me there is not diference. I don't know what it is, but reverb bash is way more harder to CC break compared to other stuns.

Lyar09 wrote: »

If they remove anything from the ability it shouldn't have been the CC. I'm all for the heal debuff going bye bye haha

Honestly wouldn't mind this either. There's hardly any stamina-based CCs for stam builds. Forcing most builds to run magicka-based CCs when they can barely afford to is poor design. If the designed aspect of this change is to reduce the amount of CCs one can do, then that's going to further ensure that resource management is more out of whack making fights last indefinitely.

agreed haha, the animation makes it look like your PUSHING someone away with the shield, whilst regular bash actually looks like a bash.

yes the pushing away version now does not CC.

I think the devs might be struggling to find a place for Power Bash in the Sword/Shield skill lineup. You have a taunt/debuff, a snare/debuff, a gap closer and an ability that gives a passive increase to blocking and an activated effect against spellcasters. What, then, is the point of Power Bash if it is not going to provide CC?

I think a neat idea would be to make it into a legitimate semi-DPS ability, so that anyone using Sword/Shield has a decent stamina-based damaging ability available to them without resorting to class/fighters guild skills.

Here's my (very rough) idea:

Power Bash (unmorphed): Does a decent amount of damage instantly, and blocking a heavy attack with the ability slotted buffs the damage of your next Power Bash (within 5 seconds or so) by 100%. This means that without blocking a heavy attack it would not be as good as other DPS abilities, but if you did block a heavy attack it becomes a very powerful single target attack. This ties it in nicely as a "tank" DPS ability, as you'd need to be actively blocking in order to get the most out of it!

Morph 1: This would be the more damaging morph of the ability, where the ability would automatically critically strike any target that was off balance (i.e. after blocking a heavy attack) and would stun them for 2 seconds. Kind of similar to how the DK morph Flame Lash works for Lava Whip.

Morph 2: THis would be the more utility-focused morph of the ability (and no doubt more useful for PvP?) where the ability would also affect any target with Major Defile (the 30% healing debuff). I'm not sure if it should be against all targets all the time, or only if used under certain circumstances... Maybe blocking ANY attack could make the next use of the ability cause Major Defile?

Please feel free to add your own! After all, it's more helpful to suggest solutions/new ideas than to just criticise what the developers have planned already.

I think it would be best to offer players the choice of what they want, a CC or DPS.

• Reverb Bash morph: stuns & disorients
• PowerBash morph: gets the DPS boost

Joy_Division wrote: »

I think it would be best to offer players the choice of what they want, a CC or DPS.

• Reverb Bash morph: stuns & disorients
• PowerBash morph: gets the DPS boost

that combination is what is causing reverb to be so buggy, just remove the disorient and leave it as a stun with no minimal range, so is usefull along with shield charge

Yes I'm 100% for removing the disorient as long as the actual CC is there.

Well according to ZoS it was because the skill was apparently "bugged" even tho it was very clearly fixed in Thieves Guild