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Can we nerf other non-shield abilities into the ground now too then?
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO
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As I feel like jabs and siphoning etc are too strong because they do both defence and offence at the same time, as shields apparently got nerfed for the same reason, so they should be nerfed too. /sarcasm......
R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD
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Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »As I feel like jabs and siphoning etc are too strong because they do both defence and offence at the same time, as shields apparently got nerfed for the same reason, so they should be nerfed too. /sarcasm......
Just re-roll a new class and ditch easy mode MagiSorc for good.2 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Yeh, shield stacking sorcs got a buff for pvp.
Things always gets nerfed because of PvP though, now they're really crappy in PvE instead. 6 sec is nothing there.
R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD5 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »As I feel like jabs and siphoning etc are too strong because they do both defence and offence at the same time, as shields apparently got nerfed for the same reason, so they should be nerfed too. /sarcasm......
Just re-roll a new class and ditch easy mode MagiSorc for good.
LOL, all other classes are 100% more easy mode than sorcs for DB. Where is my LOL button????R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD3 -
Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Well, lvling up a new toon with a diff class is a lot easier now!Edited by Van_0S on April 26, 2016 3:15PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭Siphoning got nerfed last patch. So I guess sorcs are just a patch behind.7 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »As I feel like jabs and siphoning etc are too strong because they do both defence and offence at the same time, as shields apparently got nerfed for the same reason, so they should be nerfed too. /sarcasm......
I think jabs should be made to 6 seconds long to channel.0 -
Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »As I feel like jabs and siphoning etc are too strong because they do both defence and offence at the same time, as shields apparently got nerfed for the same reason, so they should be nerfed too. /sarcasm......
Just re-roll a new class and ditch easy mode MagiSorc for good.
LOL, all other classes are 100% more easy mode than sorcs for DB. Where is my LOL button????4 -
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »
Well, I know scrubs had a hard time taking down a single shield, but should the game really be balanced around scrubs?
R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD8 -
Morimizo✭✭✭✭✭
✭What you mortals need is Jyggalag.
Enough with all this "diversity."
When this patch goes live, your skill bars will have one slot, for a squishy, rotten tree branch.
No matter how hard you swing, it will do 1 damage.
Everyone gets 5 HP.
No defense, no blocking, no crowd controls, no roll-dodging, no "moves."
I'm sure most of you will still complain that everyone else is OP.
And you'd be right, wouldn't you?
Not for the first time.
Most sincerely,
Uncle Sheo9 -
Burning_Talons✭✭✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »
Well, I know scrubs had a hard time taking down a single shield, but should the game really be balanced around scrubs?
Yea we need to get rid of those scrubs who sat inside their mine stacking shields until backup arrived or streaked away4 -
imapogostick✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Your complaining about a shield that's what? Like 8k and reduces 33 percent extra? It needs to be nerfed big time. My dk shield is 3k and lasts 6 seconds plz stfu.5 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Burning_Talons wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »
Well, I know scrubs had a hard time taking down a single shield, but should the game really be balanced around scrubs?
Yea we need to get rid of those scrubs who sat inside their mine stacking shields until backup arrived or streaked away
Those guys are just getting stronger this patch though, the ones getting screwed over are the ones that didn't do all that. So yeah, you're still going to sit there and have even more sorcs doing exactly that. Hope you'll have fun with that.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD2 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭imapogostick wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Your complaining about a shield that's what? Like 8k and reduces 33 percent extra? It needs to be nerfed big time. My dk shield is 3k and lasts 6 seconds plz stfu.
But you have a ton of other things though to help you out to stay alive as a DK, sorcs don't, so as you said, plz stfu and L2P instead, scrub.
Edited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on April 26, 2016 5:16PMR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD4 -
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Increase the dodge chance to 100% and you have yourself a deal! After all, if we're going to make the duration the same, you need to make the mitigation the same.
It's quite comical because so many sorcs are whining because now their shield has the same duration as every other class now. You still have the stronger shield so I don't even know why you're complaining. It seems a lot of magicka sorc users aren't satisfied unless they're grossly overpowered.
They still need to make shields crit-able. Especially now since stamina has one as well.3 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Increase the dodge chance to 100% and you have yourself a deal! After all, if we're going to make the duration the same, you need to make the mitigation the same.
It's quite comical because so many sorcs are whining because now their shield has the same duration as every other class now. You still have the stronger shield so I don't even know why you're complaining. It seems a lot of magicka sorc users aren't satisfied unless they're grossly overpowered.
They still need to make shields crit-able. Especially now since stamina has one as well.
Well, every other class is grossly overpowered now with their defence compared to sorcs, don't pretend otherwise. When I can use 20-30k worth of shields and cloak away as it was nothing, then we can talk again
Besides, it was the players whining about them being scrubs and couldn't take down a hardened ward that began this. Blame them.Edited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on April 26, 2016 5:20PMR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD6 -
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✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »
Well, I know scrubs had a hard time taking down a single shield, but should the game really be balanced around scrubs?
Nothing says scrub like a magicka sorc that barricades themself with mines, covers their health bar with a damage shield, and then whines when someone is hitting them with 2k damage from shield breaker while everyone else is get hit for 4-8k because they don't have a shield up.3 -
Chillic✭✭✭Realistically, shields don't last very long anyway so I would bet this change isn't that bad. I know my igneous shield is gone way before 6 seconds during a fight. If you are in a fight where your shield was lasting 20 seconds, you don't need a shield, cause that dude *** sucks!3 -
imapogostick✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »imapogostick wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Your complaining about a shield that's what? Like 8k and reduces 33 percent extra? It needs to be nerfed big time. My dk shield is 3k and lasts 6 seconds plz stfu.
But you have a ton of other things though to help you out to stay alive as a DK, sorcs don't, so as you said, plz stfu and L2P instead, scrub.
I'm not the one crying about shields am I? I run a stamina dk therefore I use 2 abilities from the dk skill line.Maybe l2p your sorcerer instead of crying. Sorcerer might actually have to put on 2 ha omg! What a deal breaker.Edited by imapogostick on April 26, 2016 5:25PM2 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »
Well, I know scrubs had a hard time taking down a single shield, but should the game really be balanced around scrubs?
Nothing says scrub like a magicka sorc that barricades themself with mines, covers their health bar with a damage shield, and then whines when someone is hitting them with 2k damage from shield breaker while everyone else is get hit for 4-8k because they don't have a shield up.
Don't suppose you saw all the NB's drowning tamriel in their tears because they were getting a well deserved balance patch last major patch? We just got to cry as much now so we get our shields back.Edited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on April 26, 2016 5:22PMR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD1 -
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✭✭✭✭Talk with my dragon fire scales about nerfs. Or block. Those are nerfs. That bit of changing to all shields. Meh.
Sorcs will be fine. It promotes more skillful use of your shield instead of just preventive activation whenever you feel like.Susano'o
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Barlthump✭✭✭What's the issue here? There was literally no nerf to shields. Infact it got a buff with annulment. Don't honestly tell the duration to 6 secs got you all twisted and depressed?like honestly how long does your 20 secs hardned ward last you when someone is whacking you? You still have to reapply all the same. This just prevents sorcs from walking around out of combat with a shield. I for one think it's fair, during a fight, you will still have the shields up and when running around in the world if you want the shield protection you need to reapply it every 6 secs. All is fair if you ask me. Or would you rather have the major minor thing applied to shields like many suggested?0
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✭✭✭Realistically, shields don't last very long anyway so I would bet this change isn't that bad. I know my igneous shield is gone way before 6 seconds during a fight. If you are in a fight where your shield was lasting 20 seconds, you don't need a shield, cause that dude *** sucks!
Magicka sorcs "only 6 seconds? That's garbage, way to make shields useless"
Stamina users "a 6 second shield?! That's awesome! I feel so OP now!"5 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭imapogostick wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »imapogostick wrote: »cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Your complaining about a shield that's what? Like 8k and reduces 33 percent extra? It needs to be nerfed big time. My dk shield is 3k and lasts 6 seconds plz stfu.
But you have a ton of other things though to help you out to stay alive as a DK, sorcs don't, so as you said, plz stfu and L2P instead, scrub.
I'm not the one crying about shields am I?
But you're whining about people complaining about a *** nerf that doesn't solve anything though R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD0 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭What's the issue here? There was literally no nerf to shields. Infact it got a buff with annulment. Don't honestly tell the duration to 6 secs got you all twisted and depressed?like honestly how long does your 20 secs hardned ward last you when someone is whacking you? You still have to reapply all the same. This just prevents sorcs from walking around out of combat with a shield. I for one think it's fair, during a fight, you will still have the shields up and when running around in the world if you want the shield protection you need to reapply it every 6 secs. All is fair if you ask me. Or would you rather have the major minor thing applied to shields like many suggested?
Yes, I'd rather have the major/minor thing, as that way you'd kill off all shield stacking quite well, while this one just makes shield stackers stronger while making it harder for single shield users like me.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD0
