Re-Trait needs to be a crafting option due to trait changes (poll)

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

Should crafters be able to replace or remove and replace traits?
This as results to sweeping trait changes.

Miszou · April 2016

Just craft a new item?

STEVIL · April 2016

No to both

The only possible debuff on a trait was nirnhoned, right? the others got improved.

So except for nirn-whatsis, everything you have is as good as you expected or better.

The option to have EVEN BETTER STUFF now doesn't mean you were gyped on what you already got.

So, i fall into the "just make more."

SublimeSparo · April 2016

Yes remove and replace

STEVIL wrote: »

The only possible debuff on a trait was nirnhoned, right? the others got improved.

So except for nirn-whatsis, everything you have is as good as you expected or better.

The option to have EVEN BETTER STUFF now doesn't mean you were gyped on what you already got.

So, i fall into the "just make more."

Got 48 spare tempering alloys and 32 rosin i could borrow

Kayira · April 2016

No to both

If you haven infused and divine on your equipment as a pve player you have done something wrong. And impenetrable even got better. So I see no reason having to change much. Most traits got better.

Leandor · April 2016

Kayira wrote: »

If you haven infused and divine on your equipment as a pve player you have done something wrong. And impenetrable even got better. So I see no reason having to change much. Most traits got better.

I guess you meant pvp player there

daemonios · April 2016

No to both

Updating your gear at some time is a way to give you new goals in any MMO. You're not going to be running with your current gear until the Universe goes cold. As long as it doesn't happen every 3 months, I'm OK with it.

ninjaguyman · April 2016

Other

Re-traiting should be a thing regardless of these trait changes tbh. Im not saying it should be easy... but it would be a cool option.

Nic727 · April 2016

Yes remove and replace

I would like to add trait after I craft my armor or weapon. What about re-trait option, but with the need to find more materials to kind of re-craft?

Inarre · April 2016

No to both

No way i want to be the only one to enjoy my well fitted valkyn skoria shoulders

Slurg · April 2016

Yes, replace

Some of us have wanted this feature for a long time, as a perk for master crafters.

But I doubt it ever will happen because they want us to have to grind for or craft all new gear with every update. The gear grind will never end.

jcaceresw · April 2016

Yes remove and replace

Of course, doing either action will bound the item.

idk · April 2016

No to both

Miszou wrote: »

Just craft a new item?

Exactly. Not a big deal.

Shadowfx1970 · April 2016

I think if trait changes were added the item you change a trait on should become bound, but personally I don't see any problem with the coming changes.

Callous2208 · April 2016

Yes, replace

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Miszou wrote: »

Just craft a new item?

Exactly. Not a big deal.

Yea, not a big deal at all. Unless it's a full set of gold v16/cp whatever gear.

Good thing I've been saving up those precious materials.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

Yes remove and replace

Callous2208 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Miszou wrote: »

Just craft a new item?

Exactly. Not a big deal.

Yea, not a big deal at all. Unless it's a full set of gold v16/cp whatever gear.
Good thing I've been saving up those precious materials.

It's a big deal per the above this the request

STEVIL · April 2016

No to both

SublimeSparo wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

The only possible debuff on a trait was nirnhoned, right? the others got improved.

So except for nirn-whatsis, everything you have is as good as you expected or better.

The option to have EVEN BETTER STUFF now doesn't mean you were gyped on what you already got.

So, i fall into the "just make more."

Got 48 spare tempering alloys and 32 rosin i could borrow

Nope, been working for a month or so to build up mats etc for the change myself. I got 5 vr5-13 that will all go cp160 at once and all yellow aint an option.

Remember, the sverage player not reading the forum is in for a surprise.

Annalyse · April 2016

Yes, replace

I don't think a permanent option should be added, but given that a lot of us just made V16 gold nirnhoned weapons I believe there should be something temporary offered at least. That is a lot of materials and money lost because of an unnecessary change.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Miszou wrote: »

Just craft a new item?

Exactly. Not a big deal.

For me, 150 rubedite ore and 8 tempering alloys lost is a very big deal. I don't care about the other nirnhoned weapons I have, but that one is a huge monetary loss - for a change that did not need to happen. They could have at least kept nirnhoned something useful for magic users to avoid this.

Morimizo · April 2016

Yes, replace

Wholeheartedly agree with this, but think it should work like attaching enchanting glyphs, where you just override the trait with a new one.

Should either be a new Blacksmithing passive, or attached to the Kresh/Topgrain/Calcinium/Birch level (so at least VR1/able to earn CPs), so it becomes a "Master" type of skill.

Maybe should even take 2 trait stones instead of 1 to balance it.

Lightninvash · April 2016

yeah but then someone could say buy a piece of monster gear from vender and swap out well fitted for divines or infused and not have to spend all the time on grinding for the one they want or need for the gear set they are building.

frethopper · April 2016

No to both

I'm an experienced crafter and in the no camp I'm afraid. Just a personal thing really. I kind of like the binding nature of decisions regarding traits, but I appreciate not everyone does.

Didaco · April 2016

Yes, replace

I was using the trait that cuts in half the cooldown on weapon enchantment (don't remember the name lel) on my gold 2handed schythe. It's been changed into something completely different.

I can recraft it, if course.

If only I had 100k gold to waste on overpriced tempering alloys (prices on console look nothing like the ones ob pc).

And, you know, I have a real life too to grind...

Nacacia · April 2016

No to both

I'd rather they spend the time between now and release fixing the release rather than adding a bunch of new potential errors.

Atreust · April 2016

Other

I think re-traiting something that you specifically crafted is totally fair. I don't think you should be able to do it with dropped sets since that would mean nobody would run dungeons anymore, but its totally realistic to assume that if you created the item in the first place that you could remove/re-trait it. I think this should be a feature for sure, as crafting legendary V16 items is quite expensive and I don't want to recraft all of my gear every time traits change and my gear becomes non-optimal.

Xjcon · April 2016

Yes, replace

Being able to change the trait of an item would be awesome. But the materials to do so should be Very expensive. It should be something you do to a piece that's hard to get not just something you do on a whim.

Lenikus · April 2016

No to both

SublimeSparo wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

The only possible debuff on a trait was nirnhoned, right? the others got improved.

So except for nirn-whatsis, everything you have is as good as you expected or better.

The option to have EVEN BETTER STUFF now doesn't mean you were gyped on what you already got.

So, i fall into the "just make more."

Got 48 spare tempering alloys and 32 rosin i could borrow

Haaa, poor people

J/K, we feel you. But really, people should know by now that every major patch brings changes to meta.

jzholloway · April 2016

Yes remove and replace

I've got plenty of crafting mats... but I still think we should be able to change the traits (just like we can change an enchantment).

Beyond the fact that DB will be changing traits in a month-month and a half, not being able to change traits makes people rely on those who make a certain build and to only go with that - meaning, Blogger so and so said I need to put reinforced or infused on such and such piece of gear... which yes, may work, but they will never know if it is optimal or not because they grinded for mats specifically to make a piece of gear and they will never spend the time to grind for more mats. In other words, being able to change traits would enable the majority of the player base to experiment with their builds more, allowing for a greater variety.

Going back to mats - i have plenty, but only because I took almost a week off from doing anything else in game to grind for crafting and improvement mats - not everyone has this time (hell, I didn't either). Make the cost to change traits something high, but not affordable, at the very least, allow us to "reroll" a piece of gear for desired traits at a cost.

Cr4p0w3 · May 2016

Yes, replace

I guess it would be ok if you had to use let's say, 50% of the materials needed to craft said item.

In case of monster items and dropped ones, you would have to pay the materials according to it's level and upgrade lvl.

It will allow players to do more testing with builds and to risk different combinations without "loosing" everything in case the change wasn't worth.

mistermutiny89 · May 2016

Yes, replace

You should be able to buy ONE bound retrait stone from the PVP vendor once per week.

It'd be 100k gold or 200k ap.

Rewards of the worthy may have a rare drop chance and a rare drop chance from gold keys from pledges.

Look at me catering for PVE AND PVP. Gosh. Cray.

idk · May 2016

No to both

Cr4p0w3 wrote: »

I guess it would be ok if you had to use let's say, 50% of the materials needed to craft said item.

In case of monster items and dropped ones, you would have to pay the materials according to it's level and upgrade lvl.

It will allow players to do more testing with builds and to risk different combinations without "loosing" everything in case the change wasn't worth.

This thread didn't have legs 2 weeks ago. It's not going to last again this time. Little needs to be changed and most of us are prepared to make those changes.

luen79rwb17_ESO · May 2016

No to both

Nowadays it's too easy to get endgame materials. Probably gold tempers are the hardest and most expensive to get.

Changing traits would only hurt the economy.

Don't get me wrong, the idea would benefit me alot with 6 Max characters once DB launches, but I don't see it as something positive in the long run.

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