Kildayen wrote: »

hoaxburnrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I was an open beta tester and the pvp back then was way better than it is now. Performance, class balances were good and I don't remember zergs being so dominant in cyrodiil. I played swtor more than eso, I came back mid 2015 didn't stick around that long. you cant dedicate yourself to two mmo there's just not enough time so I stuck with swtor. Im pretty good at swtor pvp not the best but very good, so I decided to see if I can be good in eso pvp. as a returning player, came back mid march 2016, I had no vr my highest level was a sorc lv25 and decided to create a fresh Templar but then decided to lv up my lv 10 nb. I got him all the way to vr 13 then went back to level up my sorc to vr1. I really cant stand pvp in this game the cp system alone sucks since I had no cp and barely made it to 151 cp and I still don't stand a chance with the 501's cp. I don't stand a chance in cyrodiil my vamp nb gets one shot left and right. battle spirit Is the stupidest thing I ever seen and lets not even talk about the lag. lets just say you either need a titan x graphics card or some extreme speed internet to deal with this lag. PvP in this game is the most frustrating thing i had to deal with cc breaks use up about 90 percent of my stamina, then I don't have anymore to do another cc break or root while 15 players destroy me in a fraction of a second (that's with my mag blade vamp vr 13) idk if vamp is too squishy or I just truly suck at this eso pvp. my nb cant even stealth without being pulled from stealth with cal drops all over the place (people put that everywhere) cant even move without being snared. Its like cc immunity doesn't even work in this game (cc immunity is completely not there) Battle spirit! lmao battle spirit. wow. this is what I feel is killing me in cyrodiil. 50 percent shield reduction, might as well not even waste time shield stacking healing ward since its 50 percent less effective than in pve (why waste resource on something that will get u killed regardless) 50 percent less healing, again healing ward not only shields 50 percent less than pve it heals 50 percent less. Emperor lol, no true skillz to be emperor just whoever pvp's the longest and gathers the most ap, there's no true skillz in creating a zerg bomb to get 1 million ap. there's no competitiveness in this game, you're either in a zerg team or getting zerged. No fair balance when someone that has 150 cp tries to solo a 501 cp. VR 1 with 501 cp overpowers VR 16 with 151 cp. Yes there's a server with cp disabled but have you heard the crickets in there?? I hear em loud and clear when im there all alone. comparing pvp in swtor and pvp in eso without a doubt swtor is way balanced and way competitive and you pvp in swtor is based solely on SKILLS. no class is better than the other if you have the skillz then you can be op in any class but in eso pvp you're either in a zerg or getting zerged. hell even stealth class in swtor is better than the 2.5 seconds nb have here. PvP is just frustrating in eso for returning players, which is why im leaving eso (mainly because of the broken cp and PvP THE LAG!) and returning to swtor. now I know all of you say swtor sucks and I agree but ESO and SWTOR run under the HERO ENGINE! compared to eso pvp, swtor pvp is not frustrating at all. You have 8v8 warzones with objectives that last about 15 minutes even less if your team can focus on the objectives. you have a 4v4 ranked arenas with some of the best pvp'ers in the game and of course your open world pvp (which no one in the game does anymore) and most of all swtor PvP is all skill based if you're truly skilled at a class and most of all CC immunity works and stealth class are real stealth class with permanent stealth and teleportation, tanks are real tanks that are hard to kill, healers need 2 or more dps to kill them and sometimes healers cant be killed when a tank shields them, dps class don't get one shot left and right in swtor. I tried eso, I really did my best but until you fix pvp I will not be returning, I will be joining the skill based pvp'ers in swtor. I hope all the pvp'ers listen to what fengrush says about the pvp in this game. I thank all the pvp'ers who took the time to read my review and comparison. Good luck and always remember my words "Zerg or be Zerged"

If Proxy + Vicious Death was a forum post, this ^ is what it would look like. You just wiped an entire zerg with that combo!

Dracan_Fontom wrote: »

Stop complaining and go back to swotr if you are happier there.

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

You forget that the open battlefield in SWTOR (Ilum) was canned when the developers couldn't find a fix to the insane lag and the Imbalance of Imperials against Republic.

Arenas/Battlegrounds are a lot easier to do in regards to lag. That isn't the solution for ESO. They need to fix Cyrodiil so that epic sieges of hundreds vs hundreds can be had again.

ESO was built on the hero engine but supposedly they created their own custom engine while building the game in the hero engine. Even though the game still portrays all the weakness of the hero engine (just a lot prettier).

hoaxburnrwb17_ESO wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

You forget that the open battlefield in SWTOR (Ilum) was canned when the developers couldn't find a fix to the insane lag and the Imbalance of Imperials against Republic.

Arenas/Battlegrounds are a lot easier to do in regards to lag. That isn't the solution for ESO. They need to fix Cyrodiil so that epic sieges of hundreds vs hundreds can be had again.

ESO was built on the hero engine but supposedly they created their own custom engine while building the game in the hero engine. Even though the game still portrays all the weakness of the hero engine (just a lot prettier).

Yeah, like I said you either need extreme internet or the titan x graphics card. the lag. do you know it takes about 3 to 4 seconds to toggle and in those seconds I am already dead.

Waffennacht wrote: »

Beta and now are a completely different game.

If you have a prob with CP go to the non CP campaign until you get them, that's why it's there, plus I hear less lag.

No battle spirit? You should've played around console release. Streak + Soul Burn (or wuteva the ult is called) was 2 sec gg. You would way more upset.

Zerg balls are less and less, yeah numbers matter but now you can target that specific guy if you want.

I'll be honest, once you get the gear and stats to be competitive the game is rather balanced and fun. Temps, NBs, DKs, and Sorcs all have a viable build now.

Zanen wrote: »

I played SWTOR too, it's had it's ups and downs, good points and bad, same as ESO.

The two games actually have a lot in common IMO.

I agree with you OP that the champion system wasn't a good concept and creates a lot of balance and difficulty scaling issues in ESO. We have no CP PVP campaigns now, but the bigger issue for me is PVE scaling, like nerfing dungeons for DB because they're too hard for people with no CP.

Some of the problems in PVP have really deep roots. Cyrodiil was supposed to run with much higher populations, that's why the zone is so large and it was never capable of doing that, and much less so while keeping enough server-side to prevent outright cheating. SWTOR can get away with it more because of all the ability cooldowns and the small scale of its pvp.

I find cooldown based 48 bind combat more than a little tired though. I went back to Swtor for the expansions and never could stick with it very long.

Humatiel wrote: »

You appear to be struggling with what the pvp side of the house currently is. What exactly are you expecting from the community? I ask only because I would like to believe this was more then a "witching hour" narrative.

hydrocynus wrote: »

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