ESO = A game with no sustain.

Devilhand · April 2016

Hello all,

Ive been playing ESO since Beta, and its pretty lame to see how the game quality has drop significatly.
Massive lag in PvP, random crashes to desktop, eternal loading screens, game stop working (ESO servers fail to connect).

Those problems seem to be getting "normal" for ZOS, used to be a problem of few people that had bad or unaccurate PC set up, internet connections... But now its everywere, and yet there no solution, not even a response from ZOS.

Im tired of just not been able to play the game im PAYING to play, beacuse of the incompetence and unwilling developers to solve a basic problem that should not even exist in any game, that is been unable to connect randomly beacuse ZOS servers cant hold out the amount of players that are playing at that specific time, so their system collapse trying to manage Lag kicking people of the game. When ever you try to recconect, the launcher got terribly slow, and get LONG loading screens if you manage to pass an unlimited random and different "error boxes" when loging in (Yep, the server does not respond).

Im sorry, but I play other Online games were i have NEVER ONCE getting kick out of the game or been unable to recconect. I know the issue its not on my end, beacuse i have tried every single solution it has been posted or given (which ZOS, didnt even answer to any tickets... mhm, real bad customer support right there), and beacuse other online game work perfectly fine (no lag, no crash).

I Just wont even write about all the unbalanced and broken crap that its out there and not getting fix... Whats the point? They cant even fix the most important thing => Good connection and no lag.

Now i have to wait randomly for couple days the servers actually get better. LOL

Stop making new mounts and customes and fix/improve your servers once and for all... Plenty of games out there with out this issue, yet you people keep failing (I wonder why ESO player population keeps dropping...)

vyrusb23 · April 2016

That's too bad.

I've never once experienced lag in ESO.

I've never been booted off the server.

I've never not been able to connect.

I've never once had an "eternal loading screen."

Your mileage may vary.

Svalinn · April 2016

vyrusb23 wrote: »

That's too bad.

I've never once experinced lag in ESO.

I've never been booted off the server.

I've never been able to not connect.

Your mileage may vary.

Same here... i feel stupid now because i don't know if this is just whining or i've just been very lucky...

Acrolas · April 2016

D0ntevenL1ft · April 2016

Svalinn wrote: »

vyrusb23 wrote: »

That's too bad.

I've never once experinced lag in ESO.

I've never been booted off the server.

I've never been able to not connect.

Your mileage may vary.

Same here... i feel stupid now because i don't know if this is just whining or i've just been very lucky...

I have a feeling you are quite lucky. I've experienced all of these multiple times today ... Haven't been able to play today because of it.

WldKarde · April 2016

Other than lag in Cyrodiil, I have had no problems playing ESO.

Sorry to hear that ESO is no longer the game for you and best of luck with your next game

Svalinn · April 2016

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

I have a feeling you are quite lucky. I've experienced all of these multiple times today ... Haven't been able to play today because of it.

Then i guess since i connect via wireless in an home with at least another 2 internet connections and my comp specs are not high enough to run the game at max setting well... i'm really lucky ^^

flguy147ub17_ESO · April 2016

If you havent lagged then you must be soloing in vet zones. Cause i have yet to talk to one player in the dungeons i have been running that hasnt had major performance problems since TG. Not one.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · April 2016

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

If you havent lagged then you must be soloing in vet zones. Cause i have yet to talk to one player in the dungeons i have been running that hasnt had major performance problems since TG. Not one.

Well this is the forums after all. All we have here are extremes. Either the game is so broken that people must be stupid to be playing it. Or the game runs so flawlessly, that you must be stupid and lying if you don't love it.

Svalinn · April 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Or the game runs so flawlessly, that you must be stupid and lying if you don't love it.

Well.. as far as i'm concerned i really didn't have any of the problems people says this game has... to a point i'd actually wish i would at least once so that i could actually understand what they're talking about :O

johu31 · April 2016

Svalinn wrote: »

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Or the game runs so flawlessly, that you must be stupid and lying if you don't love it.

Well.. as far as i'm concerned i really didn't have any of the problems people says this game has... to a point i'd actually wish i would at least once so that i could actually understand what they're talking about :O

I didn't either until i made vet on several characters, played high population pvp, and started doing trials.

CaptainBeerDude · April 2016

I have had small issues here and there. Not enough to get me to salt my popcorn though. If these are the issues people are complaining about, perhaps you need to get out more. Or play something 20+ years old. I grew up with those and can appreciate the improvement in overall quality and service.
I still have blisters from my old NES controller and Battletoads...

STEVIL · April 2016

Except for cake night, never experienced lag and the only boot outs were connection issues on my end.

So, a tale of two games.

D0ntevenL1ft · April 2016

Svalinn wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

I have a feeling you are quite lucky. I've experienced all of these multiple times today ... Haven't been able to play today because of it.

Then i guess since i connect via wireless in an home with at least another 2 internet connections and my comp specs are not high enough to run the game at max setting well... i'm really lucky ^^

Not sure if making fun of my internet or not

. Tell your provider I said congratulations.

Volkodav · April 2016

vyrusb23 wrote: »

That's too bad.

I've never once experienced lag in ESO.

I've never been booted off the server.

I've never not been able to connect.

I've never once had an "eternal loading screen."

Your mileage may vary.

I too have had none of the above happen to me.I love this game and how it's going.I do,however,understand the frustrations of those who do PvP. THERE is where most of the problems are.
Since I dont PvP,my game is just fine,and I dont see it going downhill at all.

Sausage · April 2016

Sorry to hear, bud.

Solid_Metal · April 2016

well honestly , i do experience crash and long loading screen, but that maybe because i use old 4 years gaming laptop, so the cause of error maybe on me, but other than that i never experience any issue with the game, except lag in cyrodiil trueflame server

note : yes, i',m on my way building a desktop right now lol

Omgwtfbbq321 · April 2016

ESO is the most bug filled game I have ever played in my life. Granted I don't play early access games, but they shouldn't be the standard.

I play on XBOX ONE NA.

Most times I play I experience:

D/C's in Cyrodill.
Crash to Xbox Dash at any place in Tamriel (Wrothgar and Imperal Sewers are the worst).
Massive lag, I am an Australian, so I expect some, but at times I wonder if I am sending my data packets by post. (I have 50gbps down and 20Gbps up speed)
Can't walk through doors or use items without the "DodgeRollSwitchWeaponsFix".
I pass through random objects as times (Cyrodill Dolmons are a big one).
Can't load my guild bank or store without more than 3 attempts.
Loss of group/guild/area chats at random.
Character holds wrong weapon for current bar (I will be shooting resto staff out of my foot with holding duel weld swords).
Loading into dungeons with no mobs, difficulty keeps setting to normal regardless of no one being in the group being already inside a dungeon.
Rolling up to a resource in Cyrodill and having no NPCs or flag.
Countless skills that fail or do unintended things (Lately ultimates have failed to go off, but still drain my ultimate counter).
Mount seems to stop for no reason and need to gain momentum again.
Endless loading screens.
Invisible team mates (And rarely enemy players).
Shocking frame rate drops (Anyone would think I was trying to play the game on my old laptop).

I could go on, but I think the point has been made.

I enjoy the game and have played over 2000 hours since the XBOX release and am a HUGE Elder Scrolls fan, but the game needs work.

This isn't a rant, just pointing out my experiences and am interested to see if I am in the minority. I will still be playing the game, and I envy those of you who do not have these problems, but they are definitely there.

DovresMalven · April 2016

What if the sustain is the friends we made along the way

Gargath · April 2016

kewl · April 2016

Since beta as well.

Devilhand wrote: »

I'm tired of just not been able to play the game I'm PAYING to play, because of the incompetence and unwilling developers to solve a basic problem that should not even exist in any game

I don't think they can fix it.

MightyBantam34 · April 2016

I play on Xbox eu and most of my gaming time was spent in pvp but once the lag started to get to me a decided to pve and do dungeons

But hey guess what pve is not right either I seem to spend more time in dungeons relogging after crashes or waiting for group members after they have crashed than I do fighting. oh and the lag is bad at times too although not as bad as pvp but still frustrating. Once performance hits main game I'm afraid more will follow

I've seen far too many friends leave this game due to performance balance bugs etc also the endgame content is a joke most v14 even pvp vendors v14 gear

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

vyrusb23 wrote: »

That's too bad.

I've never once experienced lag in ESO.

I've never been booted off the server.

I've never not been able to connect.

I've never once had an "eternal loading screen."

Your mileage may vary.

Erm, have you EVER played, actually? lol

I too get often DC's, though I have a fiber line (300MBps down, 50MBps up).
When I installed the game I got mad, speed was HORRIBLE, which makes me think, ESO is run on the third country network.
4Mbitps?
Seriously, ZOS?
Took me half a frikken night to install and update, while I can get speeds that allow installation AND update in 4 minutes?
I firmly believe they need to extremely up their server speeds....

Agalloch · April 2016

Look at these 2 movies from Black Desert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6_5B5fic_U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri4isIdkWB0

ZOS should learn from them.

ESO is a better game anyway and could attract more people if ZOS could fix the lag and disconnects issues we know .

English is not my native language.

Magdalina · April 2016

vyrusb23 wrote: »

That's too bad.

I've never once experienced lag in ESO.

I've never been booted off the server.

I've never not been able to connect.

I've never once had an "eternal loading screen."

Your mileage may vary.

Messages like that make me wonder if people are just playing the (mostly) problems-free part of the games(ergo, solo questing) or there is something on our end determining the problems. [snip]

Have you tried veteran PvP campaigns? Vet dungeons? Trials? Have you been to Rawl'Kha on AD side(at least on PC NA this ios guaranteed 5 fps and 500 people at primetime)?

I've crashed several times yesterday and had horrendous lag for most of the other time. Not THAT bad, still mainly playable but annoying.

I'm playing PC NA, OP, are you EU by chance? Seems that server has more issues(or perhaps just more load).

EDIT: I just dc'd in the middle of what would've otherwise been a nodeath vDSA run. Gg ZOS. (Yes, I am 300% sure it wasn't on my end)

[edit for bait]

DovresMalven · April 2016

I think what illustrates best the lack of end-game in ESO is how there aren't a lot of very comprehensive guides out there for builds and gear, and the lack of streamers.
To me it just reiterates that so many invested players have made an exodus, and the game caters to casual players- which doesn't make sense for a healthy MMO.

Ive been having a good amount of fun lately, but there's still that looming sense monotony, and Cyrodiil is already becoming stale again.

I'd love to get back into Trials as well, but even then there are so few of them - and with the imbalance in classes they seem so unapproachable. Nobody likes to take archers into trials- let alone Sorcerer or DK archers and it's been like that since I can remember. T_T

Horker · April 2016

vyrusb23 wrote: »

That's too bad.

I've never once experienced lag in ESO.

I've never been booted off the server.

I've never not been able to connect.

I've never once had an "eternal loading screen."

Your mileage may vary.

because you're pve-er? try pvp sometimes, and get full of salt within 1 hour, free provided by Zose

Agalloch · April 2016

I'm really miss the old days of ESO PVP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-BhwhwX38o

ADarklore · April 2016

Devilhand wrote: »

Those problems seem to be getting "normal" for ZOS, used to be a problem of few people that had bad or unaccurate PC set up, internet connections... But now its everywere, and yet there no solution, not even a response from ZOS.

They have responded NUMEROUS times in threads, but apparently either you didn't want to check or are making a lot of assumptions without actually checking the forums. I'll direct your attention here, which is the latest response from ZOS. They are not going to comment in EVERY SINGLE THREAD, but if you check the 'Dev Tracker' you will find responses that they've made on various topics.

Averya_Teira · April 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

Devilhand wrote: »

Those problems seem to be getting "normal" for ZOS, used to be a problem of few people that had bad or unaccurate PC set up, internet connections... But now its everywere, and yet there no solution, not even a response from ZOS.

They have responded NUMEROUS times in threads, but apparently either you didn't want to check or are making a lot of assumptions without actually checking the forums. I'll direct your attention here, which is the latest response from ZOS. They are not going to comment in EVERY SINGLE THREAD, but if you check the 'Dev Tracker' you will find responses that they've made on various topics.

Their "answers" have always been : We are pushing small fixes and are looking for ways to fix the problems......""" soon"""" trademark... But nothing actually gets fixed, it just gets worse every patch.

Jaronking · April 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

Devilhand wrote: »

Those problems seem to be getting "normal" for ZOS, used to be a problem of few people that had bad or unaccurate PC set up, internet connections... But now its everywere, and yet there no solution, not even a response from ZOS.

They have responded NUMEROUS times in threads, but apparently either you didn't want to check or are making a lot of assumptions without actually checking the forums. I'll direct your attention here, which is the latest response from ZOS. They are not going to comment in EVERY SINGLE THREAD, but if you check the 'Dev Tracker' you will find responses that they've made on various topics.

You know they been posting that same message for over a year now right.Its pretty much copy and paste now.So his point is correct they don't respond all they do is post the same BS they been posting for over a year now sorry if everyone doesn't drink the koolaid.